Dragon Disciple PrC question


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One of the requirements for the PrC is "If the character has sorcerer levels, he must have the draconic bloodline." My question is would the archetype: wild blood - linnorm work too? Since it does follow the draconic bloodline only slight difference is the first arcane power and the arcana.

I mean Linnorm's are very closely related to a dragon.

"Linnorms are a family of gigantic, wingless dragons with long serpentine bodies, which make their homes in the far northern reaches of Avistan."

source: http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Linnorm

Paizo Employee Design Manager

Hard to say:
"Wildblooded (Archetype)
A wildblooded sorcerer has a mutated version of a more common bloodline, with one arcana and at least one bloodline power that are different from those of an unmutated bloodline. When creating a wildblooded sorcerer, select an existing bloodline, then select one of the following mutated bloodlines associated with that bloodline. Use the normal bloodline's class skill, bonus spells, and bonus feats, and the mutated bloodline's bloodline arcana. Use the normal bloodline's bloodline powers, except when the mutated bloodline replaces one of those powers."

I'm not entirely sure if that means you count as still having the original bloodline. It seems like you're a linnorm bloodline, not dragon, but... Could go either way.


yes, you still have the base 'sorceror bloodline' when you take wildblooded archetype, and count as having it for all purposes such as this one... you just ALSO have the wildblooded 'mutated bloodline'. you are missing the bloodline POWERS that the archetype replaces, but you still have the base bloodline 'per se', since the archetype doesn't take that away (and in fact requires you to select a normal BL as your sorceror BL). wildblooded is in effect an archetype OF THE BASE SORCEROR BLOODLINE, and just like archetypes of a class still count as that class, you still count as having the base sorceror BL, just some of your powers are different.

of course, if you do this, you won't be able to use some of the benefits of the DD PrC, namely the Bite and Energy Damage on Bite, since those only work when you are using the Draconic BL's Claws ability, which you gave up for Linnorn.

DD's increase to Natural Armor would stack on top of the Linnorn BL Arcana, but the Arcana wouldn't stack with the normal BL progression of Natural Armor (which Linnorn retains), albeit that exists as a baseline for when the Arcana isn't in effect or the Arcana isn't granting more than the base BL natural armor (because you cast a 1st level energy spell, for example).


The reason I ask, is because I want to make a character that is a Human Ulfen from Lands of the Linnorm Kings.

1st level Sorcerer: Wildblooded - Linnorm
2-10 level. Monk: Martial Artist
11-20 level. Dragon Disciple
All the while going down the dragon style feat path.

Im just curious if that is legit without homebrewing.


Should be legit but the class works better with the base bloodline.


yeah, looks great, with the caveats i explained about claws and natural armor stacking.
although you're giving up the claws/bite, i think it will work with your monk build and dragon style.
since you're going monk-heavy, rather than sorceror, i recommend not having that high of a CHA score, maybe 13 or 14 to start, if you don't have a near-maxed CHA score like a full caster then your DCs are just not going to be competitive anyways, so you might as well focus on physical stats useful for melee/ranged (monk) and just have the CHA high enough to get bonus spell slots (which you can raise with magic items as you gain spell levels).
if you are using point buy, it doesn't make sense to invest too much there.

i recommend considering if going monk for 1st level (and dipping sorceror at 2nd) would be better,
you get more HPs at 1st level (the level you get full HPs for your HD), and have more resilience and flexibility - sorcerors don't have great flexibility at 1st level, and using UAS before you are a monk will be difficult, and you would also just have sorceror weapon proficiencies at 1st level. i guess it's not the end of the world, if your stats are built to be a good meleer there is no BAB difference and it's only 2 HPs difference, but it's an option to consider.
also, most people don't seem to find the final 2 levels of DD very rewarding, so dipping back into sorceror or eldritch knight could be more worthwhile.
remember if you dip back into sorceror at various levels mid-way thru DD, you can take advantage of the human favored class bonus, and pick up some free spells known: very nice! (although you may prefer favored class monk instead for extra ki or more HPs)

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