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Go ahead and report what you got if you have the info... When you report the game you can put in what date it was. I am assuming that an event was made on the Paizo Page prior to your first game, since the event number it would have generated would have been a requirement for all your chronicle sheets.
That said, attending a con is not a prerequisite for reporting games. They would prefer you report all the PFS games you play even if they are all at your home and none of you ever plan to play anywhere else.
The statistics they get from the online reporting is very important for the growth and support for Pathfinder Society.
| Andrew Bigwood |
have you been following PFS rules, chronicles, ect?
If you have you can easily post report them, if you have been doing something differnet, more a grey area
Yeah we've followed the rules and have all the chronicles. Just never entered them as they were all played at home.
So if I just enter a 'home games day event' and then report say 2 or three at an event?
I think we've only played 5 or 6 sessions.
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Just create an event, then add sessions for each of the days you played. You can report each session on the same event, using different dates for each session. Hell, my current event for my store has 173 sessions. Doing it this way makes it easy for me to search my player database to be sure that I'm not getting too many replayed scenarios, or players who are signing up for scenarios they've already played.
As for reporting late, don't sweat it. When they changed the reporting guidelines and opened up the Beginner Box Bash to be reported, I still had the information from 15 months ago, and was able to report it. The system took it just fine.
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I am confused... If you did not have an event prior to playing, what were you putting in the Event and Event Code fields on the chronicle sheet?
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I am confused... If you did not have an event prior to playing, what were you putting in the Event and Event Code fields on the chronicle sheet?
Heh. The same thing as most GMs, I imagine: nothing. The vast majority of sheets I see have nothing there. Occasionally I see an event name, but I almost never see a number. The only reason GMs ever put on a number at my event is because the number stays the same all year and *eventually* they memorize it.
So long as there is a GM signature, this is one of those things I just trust.
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It could be. But if it is, there are sure a ton of people playing illegal characters. I can honestly say that I have not once seen anyone's character with 100% of their chronicle sheets filled out properly. Not once.
I can also say that, when signing the sheets at the end of an event, I often have absolutely no idea what the event number is. If it's at a store, I can ask the coordinator, assuming he's around, and they sometimes remember. I've never known what it was at a convention, though. I just make sure to write down the event, the location, the date, and fill out everything else properly. If the number isn't there, what can we do? I'm certainly not going to turn away the hundreds of players I know I would have had to up through this point just because of a number.
Gotta have a little trust, I think (-:
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Reporting it online is definitely not a requirement to make it "legal." Yes, it helps Paizo track numbers, and gives your players something they can look at online, but just like I know of a great many players without properly annotated chronicles, I know of plenty who have chronicles from events where the coordinator never bothered to report them online.
For what it's worth, it is certainly nice to have the online functionality. Like I said, you can search things like play frequency, character numbers, names, etc. much more easily than leafing through old notes. I have reported 100% of my store's games online, and because of that my VC (Jacque Woods) has been able to give me some awesome tools to track play with. But don't worry about stick-in-the-mud Dragnmoon telling you that your games aren't legal if you don't report or you don't have an event number on the sheet. Trust me, he just wants you to play, like the rest of us.
Edit: To be clear - the only requirement to make a game PFS Legal(tm) is that it is run by PFS game rules, and that you handed out chronicle sheets at the end of each game. If you've done that, you're fine. The details are just that: details.
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Weird. We do it religiously here.
Same Here, I also get the Number on every place I visit or Con I go to. Personally I have never seen a ton of sheets missing Numbers...
It could be. But if it is, there are sure a ton of people playing illegal characters. I can honestly say that I have not once seen anyone's character with 100% of their chronicle sheets filled out properly. Not once.
Must be a Denver problem... You guys need to get your shit together ;)
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Dragnmoon wrote:Wow, i thought that was a requirement to make the Chronicle Legal....Heh I've got ~175 chronicle sheets. I would guess that under 50 have the event code field filled out.
50 out of 175? That high? I'd say that 1-2% of my chronicles have that info, and only the GenCon or KublaCon ones where they put the event number on the reporting sheet for me. I consider the Event Code and Name the two very least important lines on a chronicle sheet.
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It is important to have the event number filled out at the very least. If a player contacts me about errors with their character reporting. If they don't have an event number, they are basically out of luck with me being able to correct it.
Isn't this what the button labeled "Report a Problem With This Event" is for?
I think, if the event isn't being reported online, there is a high probability that no one involved in that game is doing online stuff or worrying about all the details that streamline things. They are only worried about the game, and the sheet at the end. And the possibility that they have a problem with their chronicle seems pretty low in that situation.
Don't get me wrong: I want that number to be put on the sheet by the GMs, whether they're working for me or running the game I just played. I want them to do this for the reasons that have been stated (efficiency in solving problems and planning for the future). But I think most view it the way that the VC in Baltimore said he viewed it: two lines on a sheet that don't mean a whit to the player.
So, having laid all that out: Is this a requirement that, when not done, invalidates a sheet?
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I always try to get the event codes, and I always fill out the event code. Especially for the ones I run in my store.
I actually believe all of my chronicles have event codes, our Locals are great at it. Mat Black always makes sure to provide us with the numbers when we GM and I try to do likewise when people GM at my store :D
That being said, I would never turn someone away for not having event codes on their chronicles :D
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I always get numbers on my chronicle sheets.
for GM credit, I always check online to make sure I have the event number.
I only have 2 that don't, and that's because Ryan Bolduan hasn't reported anything since August.
Andrew, it sounds like you're going in and filling them out after the fact. What would happen if you were to have one day played at a store where the coordinator was dyslexic and mis-entered your number? What if it was a large convention with a coordinator who was less than perfectly organized and lost all his reporting sheets? You didn't get your number at the event, went home without necessarily having contact information for that guy, and never see it show up on your list. Do you track that guy down and get him to fix it?
I ask this because this very thing happened in Denver in 2009 for Ghengis Con. The coordinator moved the weekend after the convention, and his wife threw away all the reporting sheets. The only reason anything got entered online for any of us was because one of the GMs at the event was hyper-organized and had written his own notes on players at his table. He created his own event and entered the information for all the tables he ran, which was about a quarter of the tables for the convention. But he was the only one to do that.
Assuming this number on the sheet thing is an absolute requirement, does that mean all those players from 2009 are playing illegally?
I hope you see where I'm going with this.
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Michael Brock wrote:It is important to have the event number filled out at the very least. If a player contacts me about errors with their character reporting. If they don't have an event number, they are basically out of luck with me being able to correct it.Isn't this what the button labeled "Report a Problem With This Event" is for?
I think, if the event isn't being reported online, there is a high probability that no one involved in that game is doing online stuff or worrying about all the details that streamline things. They are only worried about the game, and the sheet at the end. And the possibility that they have a problem with their chronicle seems pretty low in that situation.
Don't get me wrong: I want that number to be put on the sheet by the GMs, whether they're working for me or running the game I just played. I want them to do this for the reasons that have been stated (efficiency in solving problems and planning for the future). But I think most view it the way that the VC in Baltimore said he viewed it: two lines on a sheet that don't mean a whit to the player.
So, having laid all that out: Is this a requirement that, when not done, invalidates a sheet?
It doesn't invalidate the sheet. I was just advising, there have been several emails I have received where the customer wanted me to fix or report the sessions so it showed up on their session history and I am unable to help.
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In an effort to keep things efficient I promise to keep doing my part to make sure that we in Denver start getting our s#$@ together d-:
Good thing, because there is a good chance someday I might move there, and you don't want me coming in to make sure Denver gets their shit together. ;)
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Drogon wrote:In an effort to keep things efficient I promise to keep doing my part to make sure that we in Denver start getting our s#$@ together d-:Good thing, because there is a good chance someday I might move there, and you don't want me coming in to make sure Denver gets their s~!@ together. ;)
This statement makes my head hurt...
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Dragnmoon wrote:This statement makes my head hurt...Drogon wrote:In an effort to keep things efficient I promise to keep doing my part to make sure that we in Denver start getting our s#$@ together d-:Good thing, because there is a good chance someday I might move there, and you don't want me coming in to make sure Denver gets their s~!@ together. ;)
As it should... ;)
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Well, only cons and other major events get an event page of their own beforehand. I've always just created the event after the game, and do all the necessary filling stuff then.
And yes, the event code often is left blank. The player could check the code from Paizo's site, though.
I would encourage people to create events as far in advance as possible so it appears on the events page. I would love to see some events from Finland appear there.
This not only let's potential interested players learn about games in their areas, but lets us know that there is a good bit of activit in your region. Granted, if it is a home game, it really doesn't serve a purpose to let other players now about it. But, I like seeing more events than less on the events page.
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If you spend just five minutes setting up one "event", you can use it for every home game, con, etc. that you GM at -- honestly, Paizo has made it very easy to report using the session sheet in the scenario and then logging on. You can use that event code even if you don't have the session ready yet.
I admit, even as a VC, that I sometimes wait and do a "batch" of all my reporting just because I get busy. Reporting, even late, is better than not reporting.
Here's an example of mine:
http://paizo.com/events/v5748mkg0a4l9
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I always understood that if you had the Event Name correct, that you didn't need the event number on the Chronicle sheets. Most all the Chronicles in southeastern New England only have the Event name (aside from a few major cons).
Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your point of view, the event name is actually editable, pretty much indefinitely.
I know that I have changed the name of my event, when I switched from running Friday evenings to Saturday afternoons.
I think my event's current name is Pathfinder Society at Little Shop of Magic, without reference to what day it happens, but I might not have changed it again. I know that that is what I use for the event name on the chronicles, although I abbreviate it on the sheet as PFS@LSoM, and still only barely have room for that.
Of course, there is plenty of room for the event number, as that is only 4 digits long.
I should probably change the name here to be even more definitive, Pathfinder Society at Little Shop of Magic in Las Vegas, but the zip code search handles that, at least nominally.
| Rob Duncan |
I will tell on myself. -_-;
I have one event for all my local games that I run every Thursday, and one for all my "field trips".
I change the event name and location details for every field trip, but the number stays the same.
It's easier for me than trying to manage 40 different "field trip" events.. I just have two.
The number never changes, the name often does.