
The 8th Dwarf |

The 8th Dwarf wrote:Australia is the second country in the world where women won the right to vote. The process began 1894 - 1902 (Australia was not a country until 1901 and each of the self governing colonies had their own constitutions until Federation) it wasn't until 1920 that the US gave women the vote.Several of the American colonies had female suffrage in the voting both. These women lost their voting rights when the states made being a landholding male their basic requirement.
Indeed, even then sufferage was not universal for both Australia and the US. Both countries had to deal with ingrained racism.

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Freehold DM |

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I had to sleep on the floor at the hospital, no bed for me, just an old foam mattress and they only brought meals for my wife, I had to go to the cafeteria and buy food. And they called it a "women's hospital". Clearly discrimination.
:P
The nurses and staff were all fantastic, we were lucky we have such a good hospital so close to home. Also very lucky we live somewhere it is free. Speaking of 'cultural marxism'.

The 8th Dwarf |

I had to sleep on the floor at the hospital, no bed for me, just an old foam mattress and they only brought meals for my wife, I had to go to the cafeteria and buy food. And they called it a "women's hospital". Clearly discrimination.
:P
The nurses and staff were all fantastic, we were lucky we have such a good hospital so close to home. Also very lucky we live somewhere it is free. Speaking of 'cultural marxism'.
A fellow member of that Socialist organization called the Commonwealth of Nations.
They even pay us to have children in Australia $5000 all up in fortnightly installments, to offset income loss. This is in addition to family assistance payments to low income families. Pluss free health care....

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Sounds like being a temporary dolist, and dolists are bad for the economy.
Though some do deserve to be dolists, but I think too many people look to be taken care of, and modern, common economic systems make being self relient difficult, which I also see as a bad thing, even more so when that difficulty drives ever more people to be dolists.
Note; no idea what the real term for dolists is, I used the term from David Weber's ficton books. A dolist is someone who lives off of government support.

The 8th Dwarf |

Sounds like being a temporary dolist, and dolists are bad for the economy.
Though some do deserve to be dolists, but I think too many people look to be taken care of, and modern, common economic systems make being self relient difficult, which I also see as a bad thing, even more so when that difficulty drives ever more people to be dolists.
Note; no idea what the real term for dolists is, I used the term from David Weber's ficton books. A dolist is someone who lives off of government support.
It's an investment, our population was aging = more pensioners and less tax payers.
To keep up the numbers of our skilled workforce we have massive immigration.
To lessen our reliance on immigration it was decided to encourage an increase in childbirth rates.
Us socialists are smart some times.

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It may not be the most accurate definition (dolists don't work, they just collect a check every month, once they start working they aren't dolists) but it is the closest word I have at the moment.
@ The 8th Dwarf,
Temporarily isn't that bad, particularly since I put in the fact that some do deserve to be dolists. But however much it is deserved, dolists still have a negative impact on an economy, and these days there is entirely too much encouraging of people to be relient on others, particularly the government.

The 8th Dwarf |
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As I have stated I live in Australia. We have a very large social safety net. It isn't perfect and there are a few gaps, mental health being one.
Some people do take advantage, but they are no worse than the well off through being able to afford to pay good accountants to help them avoid paying tax.
In fact tax dodgers steal more money from your average Australian than dole bludgers do.
Australia has not experienced the global economic crisis to the extent the US has nor will you find that most of the Scandinavian countries who's social payments exceed ours.

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Economic degradation of society takes time, the free-er the market, the more time it takes, but also the society plays an important part of that equation and that takes even longer, but it will get there. This degradation is probably what Marx saw that lead him to theorize the cycle of economic systems, people get jipped until the economy crashes and they revolt then implement another system and repeat.
Breaking this cycle requires one of two things, a new economic system balanced by a structured society, or having a government immune to revolts. The latter results in some seriously bad possibilities, the former, like all systems, wouldn't last forever, but hopefully once done, would fill every cycle with an extended golden age.

Vo Giap, Ambassador of Bachuan |

Australia has not experienced the global economic crisis to the extent the US has nor will you find that most of the Scandinavian countries who's social payments exceed ours.
Nor China. Whose empty ghost cities prevented worldwide economic collapse. But does anyone thank us? No....
Vive le Bachuan!

judas 147 |

After watching this video, I've become deeply concerned about the state of things here in America. What can I do?
first of all: Stop calling usa like America, America is the name for the whole continent, we the amercians (canada, mexico, panama, argentina, etc)are tired that because of gringos, the whole continent has a shame of it name!!!
thats a good start for us

Comrade Anklebiter |

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:After watching this video, I've become deeply concerned about the state of things here in America. What can I do?
first of all: Stop calling usa like America, America is the name for the whole continent, we the amercians (canada, mexico, panama, argentina, etc)are tired that because of gringos, the whole continent has a shame of it name!!!
thats a good start for us
Last I checked, the majority of the rest of the Americas is even more culturally Marxist than the US.
Thank god.

Comrade Anklebiter |

Anyway, back to chicks:
So, as I've had occasion to mention before, I am honored and proud to serve my union brothers and sisters as shopfloor steward. This morning, I was standing outside the guard shack when one of my members drove past and shouted, "Doodlebug, get in the car, I need to talk to you."
She's a young mother who has been having to leave early because of child-care problems stemming from the fact that a) she has been diagnosed with breast cancer; b) her husband is going to prison. Today was his sentencing or something and she told management a month ago that she needed to leave early to go stand by her man. (Musical Interlude included)
12 hours before her shift began, a supervisor called her at home and told her not to bother coming in. She told him that she needed the money and would rather work. He told her, piss off, we don't need you.
So, she's telling me all this and I'm like, yeah, whatever, I already know of three people who have booked off let's go talk to XXXX and find you some work. Btw, calling people at home and telling them not to come in with less than 24 hours notice is a contractual violation.
So, we go and find XXXX and he says, "Oh good morning Doodlebug, what can I do for you?" "Good morning, XXXX, do you have anything for YYYY to do?" "No," he said, "I already told her I didn't need her today, and she has to go home."
Well, it didn't start well, and then, after that, it escalated, and he started making veiled threats and she started crying and I got really really mad and started screaming "What kind of monster begrudges four hours to a young mother with breast cancer who's husband going to jail?!? What kind of f%$@ing douchebag does that?!?" Except probably nowhere near that coherently.
Anyway, the shift manager was summoned and start ticking off the contractual violations involved in this whole goat-rope and, lo and behold!, 2 minutes later they find YYYY something to do.
Unions. Doing more for working-class women before the sun comes up than feminism has done since, what, 1920?
For women's liberation through socialist revolution!
Vive le Galt!

Hitdice |

Anyway, back to chicks:
** spoiler omitted **...
...Your co-workers call you Doodlebug?
But seriously, nice job on that one. It's a pity that the stooges of the plutocracy still try to keep the lumpen proletariat down, but at least you're legally empowered to berate them into submission. :)

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The co-worker would be straight up proletariat, not lumpen proletariat.
Lumpen would be:
Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni, pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème.
So the evil innkeeper and his wife from Les Mis. Not a hardworking union lady trying to make ends meet.

Hitdice |

Here's the thing Robert: I wasn't serious with the term stooges of the plutocracy or lumpen proletariat, nor do I mean to make fun of the woman's circumstance, but if you have to miss work to attend your husband's sentencing, that's lumpen proletariat. I also fail to see how porters aren't hardworking union members trying to make ends meet, and they're on your list :P

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I wasn't being too serious either, which is why I mentioned les mis, just forgot to add the smilies.
The list is from some newspaper articles Marx wrote detailing Napolean III's coup d'etat. I don't know why porters are on their either, maybe he had his luggage stolen one time or perhaps the porters in Paris were notorious criminals or something.
Re being at the sentencing: I don't know how it is done down in the states, but around here sentencing involves something called 'speak to sentence'. You and / or your lawyer tell the judge about yourself and about the circumstances around the crime. It's a little mini trial where the judge figures out whether or not you are a scumbag
Having children and dependents are mitigating factors that could reduce time spent in prison (or convert a prison sentence into a conditional discharge) so that you can work to support them. Having family that cares enough to actually show up for the sentencing also helps - the end goal is rehabilitation and having responsibilities and family ties helps with that.
It could also help deciding where the guy ends up doing his time.
So it sucks that she has to miss work, but she's doing the correct thing for her family (provided its one of those once in a life time type crimes and he's not a career criminal).

Don Juan de Doodlebug |

Roues? Lazzaroni? I don't even know what those mean.
And in a different vein: literati? la boheme? Hee hee! Marx was awesome. (Musical interlude included)
Well, in YYYY's case, she's also an ex-stockcar racer. Also, most of us box-throwers are part-time. There's quite a few of us that would definitely qualify as lumpen.
[Looks around]
Not me, though.
[bubble bubble bubble]
EDIT: Oh yeah, not that it's anyone's business, especially management, but I believe his transgression involved alcohol and high-speed car chases. Which I don't think is limited to the proletariat, lumpen or otherwise. Link

Comrade Anklebiter |

Organ grinders. I knew you couldn't trust them.
Roue--n. 1. One devoted to a life of sensual pleasure; a debauchee; a rake.
Lazzaroni--Well, I'll let you read it for yourself.

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He must have been talking about these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples_Lazzaroni
Also, the 8 year count down has started: http://www.academieduello.com/school/programs/youth-classes/ongoing-classes /introduction-to-youth-swordplay.

Hitdice |
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He must have been talking about these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples_Lazzaroni
Also, the 8 year count down has started: http://www.academieduello.com/school/programs/youth-classes/ongoing-classes /introduction-to-youth-swordplay.
"Is youth swordplay right for my son or daughter?" Yes; the answer to this question is always yes.

The Crimson Masque |
Also, the 8 year count down has started: http://www.academieduello.com/school/programs/youth-classes/ongoing-classes /introduction-to-youth-swordplay.
Charlotte Hawkshaw, the Mademoiselle-in-Red!

Lord Dice |

Fouquier-Tinville wrote:I hope you don't mean Ms. Corday. Although, she did have quite a charming head...
Srly, though, yay!! When you get a chance we demand baby pix!!
Apparently, I have been missing on some of the fun.
Congrats on your knowledge of the subject, though.
I can't say I approve of your life choices, Andrée, but welcome to the party. (Yes, it's invite-only.)

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Robert Hawkshaw wrote:Also, the 8 year count down has started: http://www.academieduello.com/school/programs/youth-classes/ongoing-classes /introduction-to-youth-swordplay.Charlotte Hawkshaw, the Mademoiselle-in-Red!
The scarlet pimpernel had some adventures in revolutionary france. But she'll probably be more like Sherlock Holmes, without the drugs. Hawkshaw is slang for detective.