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I am not sure. I have heard that Burning Man has become more tame over the years, but has many, many more attendees. I would need to see some evidence before sending in riot police.
I saw that piece too YD, I reckon there's a degree of BS being peddled.
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Kind of like the spurious topic starters in OTD by the OP.
And other notorious folk.
Doesn't seem like a lot of crime. 22 arrests, 13 of which were for weed or paraphernalia.
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Weed arrests, really shouldn't count :p
And even when they do... 60,000 'alternative types' for a week long festival and all you get is 22 arrests.
A similar sized crowd gets almost that many at a major sports event.
I went in '08 and '09. There was a lot of grumbling about alcohol and square mainstream folk trickling in. Good things coming to an end and all that.
Is it time to go in with an army and genetically test the whole populace and shoot the guilty?Look at the Occupy fools, is this really so bad
Equally, if one Tea Party rally-goer ever commits a legal infraction, we should indiscriminately break out the tear gas and billy clubs and cart all of them we can find off to Guantanamo Bay, right?
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I've been to Burning Man several times, and my impression is that it's far, FAR safer and friendlier than any other city with that number of people. And as far as the rape angle goes, none of the *many* girls that I camp with there have ever mentioned feeling unsafe--they all feel safer at the burn than they do at home in Seattle (already a fairly safe city).
There are also already a ton of cops from a variety of organizations that patrol Burning Man, plus a whole self-policing agency called the Black Rock Rangers.
There are a whole lot of problems in the world. Burning Man is not one of them.
*I also realize this thread may just be stirring up a bee's nest, but in case anyone is legitimately concerned, I figured I'd post.
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Actually I would like to thank you for sharing your experiences civilly, James. We need accurate first hand accounts in addition to rhetoric.
Has anyone had a bad experience there?
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Equally, if one Tea Party rally-goer ever commits a legal infraction, we should indiscriminately break out the tear gas and billy clubs and cart all of them we can find off to Guantanamo Bay, right?Is it time to go in with an army and genetically test the whole populace and shoot the guilty?Look at the Occupy fools, is this really so bad
well, the difference is that the tea partyers didn't have rape and violence like that. That said my point is that if this collection of freaks and weirdos has that FEW accusations what would he want done with groups like the occupiers who are supposedly the "99%" that represents the common man?
What do political rallies have to do with Burning Man again?
Because of the slippery slope of right wing logic:
Burning Man = heathens = weed = boobquake = commies = democrats.
What do political rallies have to do with Burning Man again?Because of the slippery slope of right wing logic:
Burning Man = heathens = weed = boobquake = commies = democrats.
I think the chain of logic is much shorter:
Burning Man = weed = hippies = democrats
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Funny how a bussed group of astroturfers who only demonstrate for an hour or two at a time don't get up to much.
What do political rallies have to do with Burning Man again?
A disorganized bunch of misfits? No, my point was that he is suggesting a "secret police" to end all of the bad stuff supposedly happening here but would he support the same to deal with groups like the occupiers?
Also funny that law abiding folks not doing drugs and violating city ordinances to camp in public are committing less crime?
Burning man is the place TO get crazy, it is a lawless land, enter at your own risk
What do political rallies have to do with Burning Man again?Because of the slippery slope of right wing logic:
Burning Man = heathens = weed = boobquake = commies = democrats.
I can confirm the boobquake
Apart from the cops and security you mean?
Burning man is the place TO get crazy, it is a lawless land, enter at your own risk
Yes, arrests imply law enforcement. Let's not confuse that with the actual incidence of crime.
Andrew where did you camp? I was with the Inconvenience Store, we had the giant mustache ride out front :)
I can confirm the boobquakeWhat do political rallies have to do with Burning Man again?Because of the slippery slope of right wing logic:
Burning Man = heathens = weed = boobquake = commies = democrats.
I'm curious as to what that means. If it is what I think it is, I just found a good excuse to visit that place :D
Jokes aside, I can't feel too interested about this since I'm REALLY not the type to go hang around at any festivals or concerts, even though I am Finnish.
I recommend you make time for it some year soon it's very transformative. It's a very inclusive community. There's something special about living in this temporary city for 9 days where there's pretty much no commerce going on. It definitely makes you a little less cynical and jaded about mankind.
...did you just read my mind with that whole "cynical and jaded" thing?
No, I didn't read your mind :)
Your post showed up while I was typing.
My comment goes for almost anyone though. Things just don't look so grim after Burning Man. The effect lasts at least a couple weeks anyway :) After that it's up to you to seek experiences that renew the outlook I think!
A boobquake is of course an earthquake caused by immodestly dressed women.
Sounds like fun, if you ask me.
I wonder what'd get the ladies to behave like that, though :3
Maybe I shouldn't have singled out that phrase boobquake for so much attention but it's a very funny word ;) I'm sure all of the things being cited in that list are more or less accurate, but communism, heathens and democrats are more difficult to empirically confirm ;)
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Psst, Grimmy, you like Burning Man?
[bubble bubble bubble] in the parking lot before the one-shot?
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Wait so are we doing that tonight? I thought you guys changed it to next week?
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No, next week.
But I'm like Burning Man 24-7, dude.
[bubble bubble bubble]
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Ah, ok. Next week then. Barring any unforeseen boobquakes I guess.
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I hope there are no boobquakes.
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God forbid.
I hope there are no boobquakes.
I can think of much worse things to cancel game.
I hope there are no boobquakes.I can think of much worse things to cancel game.
You say that now but once the boobquakes start it's only a matter of time before yelowdingo sends in his secret police to genetically test us all.
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For the record, while there are plenty of drugs at Burning Man, there are also plenty of folks there who don't do any. Many of the folks I camp with, for instance.
I'm always amused by the fact that people who haven't been to Burning Man equate it purely with drugs and sex, ignoring the amazing art pieces (which is half the reason my friends and I go).
Sure, you can smoke weed on the playa, but you can smoke weed anywhere. The sort of thing you *can't* do easily anywhere except at Burning Man is build a 50-foot-high wooden Trojan horse with a full bar inside and watch dozens of people pull it across the desert with giant ropes before setting it on fire. Or build a giant harp the size of a building and play it every day at sunset. Or play Dance Dance Immolation, where you get to put on a flame-retardant suit and get hit by flamethrowers when you screw up. It's an extreme creativity showcase, of the sort you rarely get to see in the normal world. (Though not always--last year my friends built a 40-foot-tall light-up electronic Rubik's Cube that required three people working in concert to solve, and it's since been installed at Seattle's Science Center.) And every year there are *hundreds* of such weird art pieces, ranging from the immense to the small, hidden things (such as the seemingly autonomous drink-dispensing robot that followed me down the road last year and offered me a refrigerated beverage).
James, I can't help but notice you're posting a cogent defense of an idea in the Off-Topic Discussions forum.
You should probably not bother. ;)
James, I can't help but notice you're posting a cogent defense of an idea in the Off-Topic Discussions forum.
You should probably not bother. ;)
That goes against tradition.
Sorta like Burning Man.
I had a ticket to go a few years back, but couldn't and sold it at the last minute. Always regretted it. I've talked to people who've been, and they ALL loved it.
I guess it's sorta like explaining what it was like to be a Deadhead back in the day. You had to be there. And, of course, lots of people just call you a druggie and that's that.
...ignoring the amazing art pieces (which is half the reason my friends and I go).
That's how I found out about Burning Man; photographs of the amazing art. That people might or might not be having sex and drugs is sort of irrelevant, the average nightclub has that already.
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As a Burner, I'd have to say BRC/the Playa/Burning Man has become a joke. It's nothing like it was, too many idiots go any more. Yeah, it's "tamer", depending on your definition, but it's also lost sight of what it originally was.
I'll stick to the smaller burn events and Wednesday local gatherings.
Define idiots, I'm curious as to what you mean.