Inquisitor smiting ability with incorporeal foes


Rules Questions


So in the ability it says your weapon counts as magical for overcoming dr does that also count for miss chance on incorporeal creatures since magical weapons are not affected? Same question for the bane class feature.


Wearbear,

"Incorporeal: Creatures with the incorporeal condition do not have a physical body. Incorporeal creatures are immune to all nonmagical attack forms. Incorporeal creatures take half damage (50%) from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects. Incorporeal creatures take full damage from other incorporeal creatures and effects, as well as all force effects."

there is no miss chance against incorporeal creatures, they are imune to normal weapons, and take half damage from everything else, except other incorporeals and force effects.

as for the Smite, not sure, it makes your weapon count as magical for overcoming DR, but the incorporeal "effect" isn't a DR, it's something different yet similar.

Bane, no, it won't bypass the incorporeal effect.

Shadow Demon
This is a creature where an inquisitor's smite and bane would benefit to overcome the DR, but will have no effect on the incorporeal effect.

Edit: added smite and bane, and shadow demon.


Incorporeality no longer causes a miss chance; see page 567 of the Core rulebook. That said, if the ability doesn't specifically call it out, I'd say by RAW no, the smite doesn't help with incorporeality.


Ok thanks guys

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Wouldn't bane give the weapon an enhancement bonus of +2 against the correct creature type, thus making it count as a magic weapon for purposes of hitting incorporeal creatures? The Bane class feature is supernatural so it should count as magic.

Not sure how often this would come up as it's pretty easy to have a +1 weapon by 5th level.


In the 3.5 Rules Compendium they explained that any weapon considered magic for the purpose of damage reduction should affect incorporeal creatures (they the monk's Unarmed Strike as an example). That's a 3.5 official ruling and Paizo oficials may rule otherwise, but I considered it unlikely.

As ryric said the bane, gives you a +2 to your weapon wich makes magical and effective against incorporeal creatures, should also help it bypass material and alingment based damage reductions.

Humbly,
Yawar

Grand Lodge

Ghostbane Dirge is a 2nd level Inquisitor spell, and allows you to deal full damage to incorporeal foes with magic weapons.

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