Performing Combatant and Performance Feats in regular attacks--action economy question

[leem]

I have a Gladiator Fighter(4)/Rogue(2). I almost have my head completely wrapped around gladiator fights outside of the arena.

In order to use performance feats out of the arena you need the Performing Combatant feat. To get that feat you need "Weapon Focus--Dazzling Display--and at least one Performance Feat." That is four feats including Performing Combatant.

Once I get a trigger (like charging, hitting with 2 weapons, critting, et cetera), I can make a Performance Combat Check. That check is my charisma modifier + a modified bonus based on BAB + a modified bonus based on ranks in a performance skill + bonus granted by the performance feat + a bonus if you have a "performance weapon."

At level 6 with a BAB of 5 and 5 ranks in a performance skill, I get a +1 (from charisma), a +1 (modified bonus based on BAB) +1 (modified bonus based on skill ranks), +2 from my performance feat (I will use savage display), + 2 from my performance weapon.

I need a Performance Combat Check to beat a DC 20 with a + 7 to my roll (1+1+1+2+2).

See rules here.

Here is my question. How does action economy work with the performing feats? If I pull off Savage Display do I get the 1d6 extra damage on the attack roll that triggered the event, or do I just get it until the end of my next turn for all other attacks?

Same with Dramatic Display. Because I made the check, does that mean at that moment I get a +2 bonus on that attack roll?

On Mocking Dance does that mean you get extra movements?... because in Murder's Circle you don't.

I am assuming with Mocking Dance I can charge 60 feet, attack, make the performance combat check, and move 30 feet back provoking an AoO.

And the wording is very confusing for Mocking Dance, "When you spend a swift action to make a performance combat check, before making that check you can either move 5 feet without provoking attacks of opportunity, or you can move your speed and provoke attacks of opportunity. You cannot end this move in a space where you threaten an enemy. If you do move at least 5 feet, you gain a +2 bonus on the performance combat check."

So if you can move and get the benefit without making the check, why even make the check? What happens if you fail? I can possibly see that in an arena battle you get the benefit of the feat but don't change the crowd's attitude, but in regular combat...do I even need to make the check, or is it worded wrong?

Thanks in advance for any answers or input.

EDIT: btw, I should add/remind that triggers can make using the feat a swift action or immediate action--depending on the trigger. For example, a critical hit, striking someone first in a battle, or vanquishing someone makes it an immediate action. Charging, dealing max damage, or performing a combat maneuver makes it a swift action. *note: I did not list all the triggers.

[leem]

Sorry for the long post, but many people are not familiar with the gladiator play in regular combat. I thought a quick review might help. It also might serve as a good reference in the future.

I am still looking for some discussion or verification of my questions. Tomorrow is gaming night.

[Crysknife]

leem wrote:

In order to use performance feats out of the arena you need the Performing Combatant feat. To get that feat you need "Weapon Focus--Dazzling Display--and at least one Performance Feat." That is four feats including Performing Combatant.

Once I get a trigger (like charging, hitting with 2 weapons, critting, et cetera), I can make a Performance Combat Check. That check is my charisma modifier + a modified bonus based on BAB + a modified bonus based on ranks in a performance skill + bonus granted by the performance feat + a bonus if you have a "performance weapon."

Ouch, I didn't know about that. I thought that all you needed to do was spend a swift action (or whatever kind of action indicated in the description of the feat) whenever you wanted to. I mean, it's already debatable whether a +2 to hit is enough to justify a feat and the use of a swift action...

This sucks.

[Ascalaphus]

I tried to get my head around Performance Combat, but other than for entertaining crowds, I just couldn't figure out what it was good for. The bonuses are hard to find in the books and not impressive, and you have to invest in so-so feats to get there in the first place.

So it's really only worthwhile if fighting for the entertainment of others is important to you, otherwise it's way too much trouble.