
Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:I think Somalia's become less of a libertarian/anarchist paradise since that meme took hold.Somali woman who reported rape sentenced
Nineteen-year-old will be confined to home for six months and journalists who reported the story are to go to jail.Somalia = libertarian/anarchist paradise; I think not. This looks mighty statist to me.
That's seems like a fair statement, but while Somalia is certainly a failed state I'm not sure it was ever fair to call it stateless.

thejeff |
thejeff wrote:That's seems like a fair statement, but while Somalia is certainly a failed state I'm not sure it was ever fair to call it stateless.Bitter Thorn wrote:I think Somalia's become less of a libertarian/anarchist paradise since that meme took hold.Somali woman who reported rape sentenced
Nineteen-year-old will be confined to home for six months and journalists who reported the story are to go to jail.Somalia = libertarian/anarchist paradise; I think not. This looks mighty statist to me.
Well, it was pretty damn close to having no effective government. Lots of petty squabbling little ones, of course.
Obviously not what libertarians image a stateless land to be like, but I think that's the point those who suggest Somalia as libertarian paradise are making: There's no such thing as stateless. Only working state or failed state. (Or basically uninhabited land, I suppose.)
When there isn't a government or the government can't exert authority others try to fill that void.

Bitter Thorn |
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Bitter Thorn wrote:thejeff wrote:That's seems like a fair statement, but while Somalia is certainly a failed state I'm not sure it was ever fair to call it stateless.Bitter Thorn wrote:I think Somalia's become less of a libertarian/anarchist paradise since that meme took hold.Somali woman who reported rape sentenced
Nineteen-year-old will be confined to home for six months and journalists who reported the story are to go to jail.Somalia = libertarian/anarchist paradise; I think not. This looks mighty statist to me.
Well, it was pretty damn close to having no effective government. Lots of petty squabbling little ones, of course.
Obviously not what libertarians image a stateless land to be like, but I think that's the point those who suggest Somalia as libertarian paradise are making: There's no such thing as stateless. Only working state or failed state. (Or basically uninhabited land, I suppose.)
When there isn't a government or the government can't exert authority others try to fill that void.
I reckon that's why I'm a minarchist and not an anarchist.
While I respect the intellectual consistency of anarchists or advocates for a stateless society, I have a hard time imagining things like managing the US nuclear weapons inventory without any government. I see government as an evil, but I imagine it's a necessary evil. It's just an an evil I would like like to see minimized.

Freehold DM |

PT Standards in Question for Women in Combat
I'm not suggesting that women in combat is government folly per se; I'm posting these more as a point of interest.
lots of Dumas comments underneath that article. Nonsense. If she can handle the workload, she can fight and kill just like anyone else.

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:lots of Dumas comments underneath that article. Nonsense. If she can handle the workload, she can fight and kill just like anyone else.PT Standards in Question for Women in Combat
I'm not suggesting that women in combat is government folly per se; I'm posting these more as a point of interest.
I didn't look at the comments.
This is still an issue that I'm deeply conflicted on. My experience and my gut tells me this is a bad idea, but most of the current combat professionals I'm friends with tell me my objections are out dated, and I tend to hold their opinions and experience in high regard.
There was a very good thread on this a ways back. I might necro it.

Bitter Thorn |

Senate GOPer: We'll Change Filibuster Rules For SCOTUS Nominees, Too
Yup. This will end badly.
*facepalm*

Bitter Thorn |
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Growing acceptance of marijuana no help to pot convicts serving life in the joint
FOX ran something questioning the drug war. Cool.
The link for my articles about Obama cranking up his drug war in Colorado prior to state decriminalization of some pot offenses is no longer working, but feel free to share.
The police state is reacting to a push for freedom and human rights for adults, but maybe we should not not treat pot like weapons grade uranium.
It's just a thought.

Bitter Thorn |

TSA agent confiscates sock monkey's pistol
Aren't you glad these people are making us safe? Surely this is worth a few hundred billion.
(sarcasm if there was a question)

Bitter Thorn |

Iowa truancy law relies on citizens to report homeschooling neighbors to authorities
Tell me again how we don't live in a police state.

Freehold DM |

Iowa truancy law relies on citizens to report homeschooling neighbors to authorities
Tell me again how we don't live in a police state.
I dunno about where you live but that's been the case roundabouts here for some time and probably around where you live too. It's next to impossible to truly enforce, but yeah - any school age kid outdoors during the school year can have the truancy patrol called on them. By logic the only people who would call be the adults who observe them. This isn't police state, it's a case of an age old and potentially stupid- but understandable in some cases- law.

Freehold DM |

LG Admits Smart TVs Spied On Users
LG admits it collected information on consumers' viewing habits, promises firmware update to honor opt-out requests.I guess this is probably corporate malfeasance.
how do you feel about the Nielsen?

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:how do you feel about the Nielsen?LG Admits Smart TVs Spied On Users
LG admits it collected information on consumers' viewing habits, promises firmware update to honor opt-out requests.I guess this is probably corporate malfeasance.
Is it agreed between consenting adults? Then cool. Otherwise not so much.

Freehold DM |

Patriot Act author: Obama’s intel czar should be prosecuted
Hang him high!
this cracked me up.

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:I dunno about where you live but that's been the case roundabouts here for some time and probably around where you live too. It's next to impossible to truly enforce, but yeah - any school age kid outdoors during the school year can have the truancy patrol called on them. By logic the only people who would call be the adults who observe them. This isn't police state, it's a case of an age old and potentially stupid- but understandable in some cases- law.Iowa truancy law relies on citizens to report homeschooling neighbors to authorities
Tell me again how we don't live in a police state.
Wow!
I could not disagree more.

Freehold DM |

So you could leave school grounds whenever you wanted to do whatever you wanted at the age of 9?
Not being confrontational, but keep in mind the very real differences between where we live. Also I cant say I know of anyone who has called the truancy patrol on someone, but I do know a few idiots who got picked up for smoking weed like idiots in front of the cops when they should have been in school.

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FBI can secretly turn on laptop cameras without the indicator light
1. The FBI can try to install surveillance malware with a warrant that's hard to get.
2. They can't turn on the camera without turning on the indicator light on anything you're likely using. Pretty much every modern laptop camera has that light wired into the power circuitry. So unless they got into your laptop, d&&&d out the led and soldered a resistor in it's place you have nothing to worry about. They likely can turn on cameras without turning on illumination lights, but those are different things.
And frankly, if they had that sort of access the camera is the last thing to sweat.

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I'm pretty sure the NSA monitors this website and passes the info along to my employer. I mean, for three years running I was able to read about a half dozen books on the clock during the Xmastime peak, but I start bragging in the Good Books thread, and all of a sudden, BOOM!, my workload doubles and I only got to read a couple of chapters.
F!#&in' NSA...

Bitter Thorn |

So you could leave school grounds whenever you wanted to do whatever you wanted at the age of 9?
Not being confrontational, but keep in mind the very real differences between where we live. Also I cant say I know of anyone who has called the truancy patrol on someone, but I do know a few idiots who got picked up for smoking weed like idiots in front of the cops when they should have been in school.
When I was 9 the school and truancy authorities didn't worry me. Mom, on the other hand, would have none of that nonsense. ;)

Bitter Thorn |

ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation
Documents, interviews show agents employed tactics similar to those used in Milwaukee

Freehold DM |

ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation
Documents, interviews show agents employed tactics similar to those used in Milwaukee
Well written story. Very well written. Ss ever with sting operations, and you really have to wonder exactly whom is being picked up.

Comrade Anklebiter |
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Today's Democracy Now! has got all kindsa goodies about the CIA helping bump people off in Colombia.
Also, Mikhail Kalashnikov, RIP.
[Clenched fist salute]

Bitter Thorn |

Nigerian Law Outlawing LGBT Advocacy And Criminalizing Same-Sex Marriage Clears Final Test In Senate
If President Goodluck Jonathan signs the bill into law, Nigeria would have the world’s broadest law cracking down on LGBT rights.

Bitter Thorn |

First Australian gay weddings held in capital city
Because some folks seem confused, this is obviously not government folly beyond government dictating adult relationships. This is a small sliver of good news for human rights.

Bitter Thorn |

Federal judge strikes down Utah ban on same-sex marriage
More good news not folly in case some people are confused.

Bitter Thorn |

Federal judge rules parts of Utah anti-polygamy law unconstitutional
Once again good news over decades of folly for how adults build their relationships.
BTW, my position continues to be that consenting adults should be able to form families as they see fit without any kind of government license. I still find the idea of a marriage license to be as odious as a license to procreate.
My 2 CP.

Bitter Thorn |

Bitter Thorn wrote:I dunno about where you live but that's been the case roundabouts here for some time and probably around where you live too. It's next to impossible to truly enforce, but yeah - any school age kid outdoors during the school year can have the truancy patrol called on them. By logic the only people who would call be the adults who observe them. This isn't police state, it's a case of an age old and potentially stupid- but understandable in some cases- law.Iowa truancy law relies on citizens to report homeschooling neighbors to authorities
Tell me again how we don't live in a police state.
It's more about home school than truancy. There has been a vicious war on home schoolers for decades. PM or call me if you want to engage.

Comrade Anklebiter |

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:It's more about home school than truancy. There has been a vicious war on home schoolers for decades. PM or call me if you want to engage.Bitter Thorn wrote:I dunno about where you live but that's been the case roundabouts here for some time and probably around where you live too. It's next to impossible to truly enforce, but yeah - any school age kid outdoors during the school year can have the truancy patrol called on them. By logic the only people who would call be the adults who observe them. This isn't police state, it's a case of an age old and potentially stupid- but understandable in some cases- law.Iowa truancy law relies on citizens to report homeschooling neighbors to authorities
Tell me again how we don't live in a police state.
Really? That's something I did not know, nor would I-it happens aroundabouts but it's not overly popular. Outside of that one law and order episode giving it a bad name, the first time I met someone homeschool educated was in college. She was... Strange to say the least. But yeah, this is something you don't see much of here

Comrade Anklebiter |

I've run into quite a up here in the Land of the Free. I don't mean to unfairly characterize a group of people based on my experiences with a few, but I can't help but relate that one of them we refer to as "Bubble Boy" behind his back.
Otoh, my Buddhist monk's sister's kids are all in a home-school network, and they seem no less weird than any other bunch of 14-18 year olds. They even play D&D.
Wait a minute...

Comrade Anklebiter |

RT's Top 13 Underreported Stories of 2013
I think we in the Bride of Government Folly thread did a pretty good job of covering most of these. Yay us!!