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Mandatory calorie postings at fast-food chains often ignored or unseen, does not influence food choice


Thousands of examples, why do people still trust the government?

Liberty's Edge

Considering that most of those weren't government malfeasance (seriously, the Cheney's arguing is government folly?), yes. At least more so than large corporations, the super wealthy etc.

For every post you've made we could have a dozen about corporate malfeasance (and several of yours are despite you claiming them as government issues). That would violate the rules of you precious thread and be off topic though.


Let's make a separate thread for that, then?


Krensky wrote:
That would violate the rules of you precious thread and be off topic though.

Interesting. I've posted Corporate Malfeasance links in this thread and not only did they not break the rules, Comrade Thorn favorited them.


Indeed, I love dinging bt for conflating government malfeasance with corporate malfeasance. But this thread has gone on for a long time and has been quite courteous- simply mention the error you feel is being made and leave it at that.


Yeah, "Bride of Government Folly" is a very precious thread, because I came up with the name!

Y'know, I don't think I've ever seen anyone on here (the boards, not the thread) post from Italy, which is too bad.

“Fortress Europe” Means Racist Murder: Mass Drowning of Refugees in Mediterranean


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Vendetta justice? Criticism growing about John Doe prosecutor Bruce Landgraf

yikes. What a loony!


thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.


Bitter Thorn wrote:

Colorado man suing for $1M in damages after police kill his dog

“I can’t replace Chloe,” owner says.

I hope he gets every penny.


Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.

Verboten by whom?


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Making corn-based ethanol badly hurting environment: AP

this is an ugly situation-was from before bush was in office. Don't back farm subsidies, you're trying to kill the American farmer. Care about the American farmer, you run the risk of the enviornment being damaged as they seek a combination of profits and survival.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.
Verboten by whom?

anyone who likes him even a little bit. He's a media darling right now, anyonr questioning his motives or even the laws he broke is automatically an evil government shill.


Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.

He may be. I just don't particularly care. Nor am I really sure what else he could have done, assuming he really is genuine. If he'd gone through channels or tried to reveal while remaining within reach of the US government, he'd be rotting in custody, without any whistleblowing actual happening.

But again, I don't really care. Even if he is selling secrets, that doesn't change anything about what he's revealed. And that's the important part. The story isn't about him.


Freehold DM wrote:
Indeed, I love dinging bt for conflating government malfeasance with corporate malfeasance. But this thread has gone on for a long time and has been quite courteous- simply mention the error you feel is being made and leave it at that.

It only annoys me when everything in the thread gets lumped together as "see how horrible government is".


Then again, it seems corporations are co-operating with governments on these things...


Freehold DM wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.
Verboten by whom?
anyone who likes him even a little bit. He's a media darling right now, anyonr questioning his motives or even the laws he broke is automatically an evil government shill.

Hmm, I was unaware of any shift in the national perception of Snowden, but, for the record, Comrade Freehold, I don't think you're evil.


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

NSA chief: Stop reporters 'selling' spy documents

Why should free press matter?

*face palm*

I remain unconvinced of snowdens altruism.

I don't particularly care about his altruism or his motivations. Unless they cast serious doubt on his revelations, which judging by the lack of denials and by the grudging admissions from the government, I can't see that they do.

Why should his altruism or lack of it matter?

It often seems part of an effort to turn attention to him personally and away from what he's revealed.

because, as I've said before, hes acting like someone with secrets to sell to the highest bidder. Any criticism of him along these lines seems to be verboten.
Verboten by whom?
anyone who likes him even a little ybit. He's a media darling right now, anyonr questioning his motives or even the laws he broke is automatically an evil government shill.
Hmm, I was unaware of any shift in the national perception of Snowden, but, for the record, Comrade Freehold, I don't think you're evil.

I see what you did there, you.


Freehold DM wrote:
Indeed, I love dinging bt for conflating government malfeasance with corporate malfeasance. But this thread has gone on for a long time and has been quite courteous- simply mention the error you feel is being made and leave it at that.

I agree that we should have a corporate malfesance thread again. I posted several examples in the first one, but IIRC the thread turned into a debate about cororate versus goverment malfesance and got closed or abandoned.

I would deeply appreciate that not happening here.

People are perfectly free to start separate threads about links I post and point out how silly they think my position is. I lack the time and energy to engage right now while I'm working on this Tucson project, and I'm not inclined to engage on line these days in any case.

I believe government and corporate malfesance are deeply intertwined. I've gotten into this with you and Kirth at length, but suffice it to say that the government and giant corporations suck a lot at the same time. I can hate corrupt incompetent government and corrupt stupid corpoations at the same time just like I cane hate GOP statists and Democrat statists at the same time.

I was going going to post some links, but I'm exhausted, and I think i'm going to call it a night.

Take care all.


Nevada prison inmate dies, the sixth in two months


NY jail guard admits affair with murder convict


Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, sentenced to 3 to 5 years in prison


6,000 Arizona child abuse reports not investigated


Bitter Thorn wrote:

Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, sentenced to 3 to 5 years in prison

dunno if she's gonna make it out. Not being a jerk, just being realistic.


yup


How many? How much blood? How much is enough?


Hmmm. Well, I don't know how much blood, but when I click on your link, Comrade Thorn, I get the last movie which I got from Netflix, which happens to be Jean-Luc Godard's documentary about the recording of Beggars Banquet.

Vive le Rolling Stones!


That's my girl.

Reason.com
The Blaze

Nationalize Pai-um, Boeing!!

Vive le Galt!


Corporate Malfeasance, for Citizen K(e)rensky


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Pretty good movie I saw today:

In Prison My Whole Life

And one that looks pretty good:

Let the Fire Burn

On a move!


Bitter Thorn wrote:

How many? How much blood? How much is enough?

...not sure what government corruption has to do with netflix, but...hey, I'll bite. What's the connection?


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

That's my girl.

Reason.com
The Blaze

Nationalize Pai-um, Boeing!!

Vive le Galt!

pretty out there claims/suggestions. I would see Boeing leave Seattle first.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Corporate Malfeasance, for Citizen K(e)rensky

anklebiter! You posted!


Freehold DM wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

That's my girl.

Reason.com
The Blaze

Nationalize Pai-um, Boeing!!

Vive le Galt!

pretty out there claims/suggestions. I would see Boeing leave Seattle first.

Machinists--seize the factories!

For Sit-down strikes, not soup lines!

Labor's gotta play hardball to win!

First Boeing, then Paizo!!

Vive le Galt!!

Random old footage


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Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

How many? How much blood? How much is enough?

...not sure what government corruption has to do with netflix, but...hey, I'll bite. What's the connection?

Hee hee!

Anyway, going out on a limb here, but, based on Comrade Thorn's prior posts, I'm guessing he was trying to link to:

Dirty Wars

I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong.

My anarcho-syndicalist hetero life partner started reading Scahill's book about Blackwater (which I bought at the Goodwill in hardcover for $2.99, yo!) and he said it was all kindsa f$**ed up.


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For shiznits and giggles I went and looked up the old Corporate Malfeasance thread.

Interestingly enough, it was never shut down, it was abandoned, presumably because you anti-corporate liberals and Democrats are nowhere near as committed to Paizo politrolling as we Bride of Gov't Folliers.

Also interesting, Comrades Thorn and Knife (who's absence from these boards I will hold against Citizen Betts until the end times), the only Libertarians whom I've ever respected politically, were heavy contributors to the thread.

(Three guesses as to who was the last person to post there. Hint: He's a communist.)


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

For shiznits and giggles I went and looked up the old Corporate Malfeasance thread.

Interestingly enough, it was never shut down, it was abandoned, presumably because you anti-corporate liberals and Democrats are nowhere near as committed to Paizo politrolling as we Bride of Gov't Folliers.

Also interesting, Comrades Thorn and Knife (who's absence from these boards I will hold against Citizen Betts until the end times), the only Libertarians whom I've ever respected politically, were heavy contributors to the thread.

(Three guesses as to who was the last person to post there. Hint: He's a communist.)

So post on it. Maybe it'll inspire another debate.

The only reason this thread really sticks around is that BT comes back and spews a bunch of links onto it, some of which inspire other comments.


No. I like this thread better.

(Btw, Comrade Jeff, you've posted in here enough that you're a Bride of Gov't Follier whether you like it or not. Same with Comrade FHDM.)


More Corporate Malfeasance

Unions: Break with the Democrats!

From the same issue:

European Gypsies Under Siege: French Government Crackdown on Roma, Immigrants

Down with Hollande! Break with the Socialist Party!


Corporate Malfeasance--Haiti: Women Workers Strike
Against Starvation Wages


Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

How many? How much blood? How much is enough?

...not sure what government corruption has to do with netflix, but...hey, I'll bite. What's the connection?

Drunk post FAIL!

I think I was going for this.

Dirty Wars Official Trailer #1 (2013) - War Documentary HD


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

How many? How much blood? How much is enough?

...not sure what government corruption has to do with netflix, but...hey, I'll bite. What's the connection?

Hee hee!

Anyway, going out on a limb here, but, based on Comrade Thorn's prior posts, I'm guessing he was trying to link to:

Dirty Wars

I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong.

My anarcho-syndicalist hetero life partner started reading Scahill's book about Blackwater (which I bought at the Goodwill in hardcover for $2.99, yo!) and he said it was all kindsa f&#$ed up.

Yup. I think so anyway.

*facepalm*

EDIT: Schahill is another example of someone whose politics are radically different than mine whose opinion I respect.

BTW, Elysium was not a bad flick. the politics didn't totally overpower the story and production value.


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thejeff wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

For shiznits and giggles I went and looked up the old Corporate Malfeasance thread.

Interestingly enough, it was never shut down, it was abandoned, presumably because you anti-corporate liberals and Democrats are nowhere near as committed to Paizo politrolling as we Bride of Gov't Folliers.

Also interesting, Comrades Thorn and Knife (who's absence from these boards I will hold against Citizen Betts until the end times), the only Libertarians whom I've ever respected politically, were heavy contributors to the thread.

(Three guesses as to who was the last person to post there. Hint: He's a communist.)

So post on it. Maybe it'll inspire another debate.

The only reason this thread really sticks around is that BT comes back and spews a bunch of links onto it, some of which inspire other comments.

The spewing is often a function of having very limited time when I'm traveling for work or helping with family. Beer is also a factor at times.

*shrug* :)

I'll try to spew some more tonight. ;)


The Lobotomy Files:
Veterans


New Budget Cut Options Include Military Pay, Vets


Report: VA Biased Against Sexual Trauma Claims


Somali woman who reported rape sentenced
Nineteen-year-old will be confined to home for six months and journalists who reported the story are to go to jail.

Somalia = libertarian/anarchist paradise; I think not. This looks mighty statist to me.


PT Standards in Question for Women in Combat

I'm not suggesting that women in combat is government folly per se; I'm posting these more as a point of interest.


The Marines are still determining the final standards for women to join combat ranks.


Bitter Thorn wrote:

Somali woman who reported rape sentenced

Nineteen-year-old will be confined to home for six months and journalists who reported the story are to go to jail.

Somalia = libertarian/anarchist paradise; I think not. This looks mighty statist to me.

I think Somalia's become less of a libertarian/anarchist paradise since that meme took hold.

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