Inquisitor math... Is this right?


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I'm currently playing a Half-Orc Inquisitor. I went with the Rage domain and am wielding a bastard sword. Last night I was out putting damage in the mid-50s at level 11 with each hit. Is this right?

My Dm asked me to check my math but for the life of me I can't see any mistakes...

Modifiers
Str: 20 (+5)
Bane: +2,+2d6 damage
Judgement of destruction: +4 damage
Power attacking two handed: +9
magical bastard sword: +1
Precise strike: +1d6
Destructive Smite
Rage: +2

Action Economy
Round 1: Activate judgements (Swift)
Round 2: Bane (Swift)
Round 3: Destructive smite (Standard), Rage (Free action)

Break down of attacks
Round 1: Activate judgement of destruction, power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed swing.

Damage = 1d10 + 21

Round 2: Activate Bane, Move into flanking, Power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed Swing

Damage = 1d10 + 23 + 3d6

Round 3: Rage, Destructive smite, Power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed swing

Damage = 1d10 + 30 + 3d6

Am I doing something wrong? I'm thinking maybe I can't rage while these other spells are active but...

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Mage Evolving wrote:

I'm currently playing a Half-Orc Inquisitor. I went with the Rage domain and am wielding a bastard sword. Last night I was out putting damage in the mid-50s at level 11 with each hit. Is this right?

My Dm asked me to check my math but for the life of me I can't see any mistakes...

Modifiers
Str: 20 (+5)
Bane: +2,+2d6 damage
Judgement of destruction: +4 damage
Power attacking two handed: +9
magical bastard sword: +1
Precise strike: +1d6
Destructive Smite
Rage: +2

Action Economy
Round 1: Activate judgements (Swift)
Round 2: Bane (Swift)
Round 3: Destructive smite (Standard), Rage (Free action)

Break down of attacks
Round 1: Activate judgement of destruction, power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed swing.

Damage = 1d10 + 21

Round 2: Activate Bane, Move into flanking, Power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed Swing

Damage = 1d10 + 23 + 3d6

Round 3: Rage, Destructive smite, Power attack with magical bastard sword +1, 2 handed swing

Damage = 1d10 + 30 + 3d6

Am I doing something wrong? I'm thinking maybe I can't rage while these other spells are active but...

Looks right to me. You're using your standard action to use Destructive Smite in round 3 instead of iteratives, so you'd probably actually be capable of even more damage if you did iteratives instead.


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Rage is a moral bonus to Str and Con, Destructive smite is a Moral Bonus to damage. These MAY not stack. It depends on if you consider the increased damage to also be a moral bonus or not.

Other than that, I say it all looks good. I have a lvl 11 character (he's a level 9 inq) and he does about as much damage a round. I would suggest adding Divine Favor, it's +3/+3 hit/dmg, has a 1 minute duration and is a luck bonus so it will stack with most everything else you have going.

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j b 200 wrote:

Rage is a moral bonus to Str and Con, Destructive smite is a Moral Bonus to damage. These MAY not stack. It depends on if you consider the increased damage to also be a moral bonus or not.

Other than that, I say it all looks good. I have a lvl 11 character (he's a level 9 inq) and he does about as much damage a round. I would suggest adding Divine Favor, it's +3/+3 hit/dmg, has a 1 minute duration and is a luck bonus so it will stack with most everything else you have going.

They do stack. The morale bonus to Strength raises the strength score, which is factored INTO damage (think of it as a Strength bonus to damage, even though it's not considered a bonus at all) before having the morale bonus to damage applied. Totally kosher.


You could scare him even more by going into the destruction domain and taking a +1 keen falchion. My inquisitor was regularly critting for 70+ damage, with my highest damage output killing a ice devil in 1 round at the same level your at.( I had haste)


cartmanbeck wrote:


Looks right to me. You're using your standard action to use Destructive Smite in round 3 instead of iteratives, so you'd probably actually be capable of even more damage if you did iteratives instead.

My problem with the iterative attack in this case would be that I rarely hit. Better to go with the sure fire damage.

Matthias wrote:


You could scare him even more by going into the destruction domain and taking a +1 keen falchion. My inquisitor was regularly critting for 70+ damage, with my highest damage output killing a ice devil in 1 round at the same level your at.( I had haste)

I have the improved crit on the Bastard Sword. I use a shield from time to time so I like the option to wield with one hand.


You just seem to have a well built character with a good understanding of how to do decent damage.

Are the rest of your party members less optimized? Less experienced? How experienced is the DM? Your damage shouldn't be an issue at that level. Especially if your build for DPR.

I would point out to your DM that there are plenty of characters that can dish out that type of damage at level 11 (In fact most classes can if properly built and prepared.)

Try and talk with your DM and explain to him that this will only get progressively harder. For instance your next level you will get Greater Bane. At 13th you get 5th level spells(some of your best). Its better to work it out now before it gets progressively worse. It seems like your DM is willing to work with you so that's a bonus.


Yup, that's right...

Inquisitors can be nasty for damage output (just wait for Greater Bane when that 2d6+2 becomes a 4d6+0).


Honestly, I don't think that the Dm has that big an issue with the damage he has just never played an inquisitor so he was a bit startled when I hit and declared I had just done 49 damage and had bypassed the DR of the construct by just thinking about it real hard (switching my judgement).

As for optimization and DPR I am not the leader at my table. We have a barbarian who is more than able to match me blow for blow (without any buffs) and a Sorcerer who is firing off scorching rays that down most enemies.

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