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I'm not sure if I'm missing something but it seems that the 'Ammo Infector Virus' second level feat requires the 'Combat Hack' skill feat, and the 'Combat Hack' skill feat requires you to be an expert in computers which you can't be until the 3rd level skill increase.
Am I missing something? Not being able to take a level 2 feat until level 3 seems like a mistake.
Calchas wrote: I'm not sure if I'm missing something but it seems that the 'Ammo Infector Virus' second level feat requires the 'Combat Hack' skill feat, and the 'Combat Hack' skill feat requires you to be an expert in computers which you can't be until the 3rd level skill increase.
Am I missing something? Not being able to take a level 2 feat until level 3 seems like a mistake.
I notice SF2E even has quite a few skill feats that are level 2, but require expertise. Maybe it's because they're more generous these days with archetype feats that grant you expertise?
Either way, Ammo Infector Virus is one of the most fun feats technomancer has, and it's a shame not to be able to pick it at level 2
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I imagine it's a concideration for "skill monkey" classes, same as it is in PF2e. You're not barred from getting to expert at level 2, just... Very few things enable that. Not nothing though and telling the Envoy that they can't take the skill feat even though they have the right proficiency for it just doesn't seem right. On Technomancer though it's a questionable choice to make it a class feat requirement
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On rare occasions, an archetype is released that grants expert proficiency in a skill by level 2. While this case is fringe, this sort of thing is technically possible in games where the free archetype optional rule is in use. As through this, at Level 2, you'd be able to get a skill feat, a class feat, and an archetype feat concurrently.
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moosher12 wrote: On rare occasions, an archetype is released that grants expert proficiency in a skill by level 2. While this case is fringe, this sort of thing is technically possible in games where the free archetype optional rule is in use. As through this, at Level 2, you'd be able to get a skill feat, a class feat, and an archetype feat concurrently. Free Archetype really, really should not be considered when designing things.
I think the two most likely possibilities are
1) Someone forgot Combat Hack required expert proficiency the Technomage can't get ar the appropriate level
2) Combat Hack will only require trained proficiency as of release, and the devlopers forgot about that during when writing this playtest (It wouldn't be the only time- The DPS++'s 3rd level cache spell Electrotether doesn't exist, but is probably a rename of the playtest Gravity Tether)
Squark wrote: Free Archetype really, really should not be considered when designing things.
I think the two most likely possibilities are
1) Someone forgot Combat Hack required expert proficiency the Technomage can't get ar the appropriate level
2) Combat Hack will only require trained proficiency as of release, and the devlopers forgot about that during when writing this playtest (It wouldn't be the only time- The DPS++'s 3rd level cache spell Electrotether doesn't exist, but is probably a rename of the playtest Gravity Tether)
Yes, but I'm not the one designing it. I'm just explaining where it would work.
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