Venture-Captain, Oregon—Portland
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How does the material component for the Miasmatic Cloud spell from Advanced Race Guide work? I know that whenever a component is listed with a price, in this case a contact or inhaled poison worth 100gp for the Poisonous Cloud option, then it must be purchased just like any item. However, as far as poisons in society play go, the FAQ page says
Any character with the Poison Use class ability can purchase and use poisons. For now, they are the only classes that have a list of “always available poisons” (those noted below)—no other class may purchase poisons unless they appear on a chronicle sheet. Alchemists, ninja, and poisoner rogues may only purchase the following poisons from the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook:Giant wasp poison
Large scorpion venom
Medium spider venom
Shadow essence
Small centipede poisonPaladins, per their code of conduct, may not use poisons, but they don’t necessarily view the use of poisons as an evil to be opposed—it’s simply something their code prohibits them from doing themselves.
Alchemists and rogues with the poisoner archetype and the Master Poisoner ability can use Craft (alchemy) to produce poisons (see "How can alchemists craft in Pathfinder Society Organized Play?").
Is the poisonous version of the spell allowed, or not? Or Do we just hand-wave the specifics and say a poison of some sort worth 100gp was purchased for this spell?
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that line of thought. There is no difference between purchasing a spell component and regular items. If a spell, for example, calls for a gold ring to be purchased, it is the same type of gold ring that can be considered jewelry for the sake of a noble's outfit.
And certainly, the component isn't actually what causes the damage, but, much as a vial of acid worth 10gp is necessary for Acid Splash, there is no "other" kind of acid, only "actual acid".
The rules do not offer any support for the idea that there are other types of poison other than "actual poison". A poison listed on the poison chart, or other resource, is what is needed (as long as it meets the requirements of being one that costs 100+ Gp ... which, to me, presumably means that it costs so much because it's potent.)
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This is a bit confusing due to the wording, but because Miasmatic Form doesn't actually cause the poison component's effects(because the effect is caused by the spell), rather than purchasing an actual poison you only need to buy a 'poison' spell component.
As a side comment, without reskinning couldn't the argument be made that 100 gp of lead would count? Or alcohol? Poisons come in lots of forms...
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This is a bit confusing due to the wording, but because Miasmatic Form doesn't actually cause the poison component's effects(because the effect is caused by the spell), rather than purchasing an actual poison you only need to buy a 'poison' spell component.As a side comment, without reskinning couldn't the argument be made that 100 gp of lead would count? Or alcohol? Poisons come in lots of forms...
In Pathfinder, Lead and Alcohol are not considered poisons.
