Someone's going to get the ludicrous idea of painting a face on a jockstrap now.
Chainmail Bikini is a 3PP. Who bothers?
Concerning some art and video games, this is a valid discussion.
But then, there are some other discussions to lead before on those subjects.
In a fantasy game where magic exists its no use to argue about something like this. Its also no use to argue about realistic whatever.
Having realistic armor is something i would actually welcome, but then a lot of things had to be changed what would change the game to a degree that it would not have anything to do with D&D or pathfinder anymore. Having armor count as damage reduction is a big step in this direction. Then some classes with smaller hit dice and armor proficiency and perhaps lower melee prowess, but also few magical means of defense are in a bad situation often. What would a monk do without bracers of armor and and WIS to AC?
Naturally in a game where you play out your fantasy people bring in their erotic and sexual fantasy too. Like with all personal things views on this differ and its the responsibility of the gaming group to find a consens on this. Hardliners or people that so easily take offense with their morals should either stay at home and play alone or find a group sharing their views right ahead.
At the moment there are 3 major fractions in this world trying to force their moral beliefs on others concerning such things: Chinese communist party, radical american christians and radical moslems. Feel free to out yourself as one of those.
Chinese communist party actually has kind of an excuse, because they are trying to fight a lot of stuff people outside of china often can´t quite understand and that really doesn´t belong here. The other two are just about power, control, neuroses, inferiority complexes and not being able to read a book but rather fantazising a lot into it.
Common problem with some books sold here too haha.
Regarding female gamers, that is an individual issue.
How can you spak for all females? How do you know what they think or want? If you play a female character as a male when there is a female player, its quite interesting. Perhaps she is playing a male character?
There is no reason to treat a female gamer different from a male gamer.
Worse, its chauvinism to behave different in the presence of females.
In a good gaming group everyone can bring in his fantasies regarding whatever and be respected. Just respect the others as you wish them to respect you.
Now I need more Brain Bleach(tm). Thanks, Moorluck.Someone's going to get the ludicrous idea of painting a face on a jockstrap now.I have Captain America's shield on the crotch of my boxer briefs, does that count?
Where do you buy Brain Bleach(tm)? I'd love to have a jug or three around the house.
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I hate Armor as DR. Its annoyingly irritating, and adds nothing to the game, in my opinion. Please never do this. Ever. What actually brings this up, though?
What's with the political anti-religious politics blame-game?
Chauvinism means something along the lines of overly loyal, overly devout to something no matter what. It has nothing to do with feministism, or anything sexual or gender based.
I think the only real difference between how female gamers are treated is mostly in fake-believe land like this that it keeps coming up so people think it's true, and when female gamers "ask" (and by that I mean act) to be treated differently. Which is fine. People are different and males and females are different. But you can't have both, it's one or the other. Not equal, unless it's in my favor.
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Where do you buy Brain Bleach(tm)? I'd love to have a jug or three around the house.Now I need more Brain Bleach(tm). Thanks, Moorluck.Someone's going to get the ludicrous idea of painting a face on a jockstrap now.I have Captain America's shield on the crotch of my boxer briefs, does that count?
I buy it online in 50 gallon drums. Helps around here.
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I hate Armor as DR.
Funny, I thought that was more like the way body armor really works. Of course, there I go again trying to insert reality into an unrealistic game... :P
(I don't know that armor as DR works so well in PF-- levels and ever-increasing hit points and all that kind of mess with attempts to put realism back in, but armor absorbing/deflecting damage when you get hit, rather than preventing you from getting hit in the first place, works quite well in many other game systems-- and it is, IMO, almost mandatory for realistic game systems, since as noted above-- that is how armor works in RL).
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I, for one, appreciate Red Sonja and her imitators.
I hate Armor as DR.Funny, I thought that was more like the way body armor really works. Of course, there I go again trying to insert reality into an unrealistic game... :P
(I don't know that armor as DR works so well in PF-- levels and ever-increasing hit points and all that kind of mess with attempts to put realism back in, but armor absorbing/deflecting damage when you get hit, rather than preventing you from getting hit in the first place, works quite well in many other game systems-- and it is, IMO, almost mandatory for realistic game systems, since as noted above-- that is how armor works in RL).
I don't have a problem with Armor as DR, but under that system you'd probably have to away with hit points and replace them with Con damage. (I miss Traveller.)
I, for one, appreciate Red Sonja and her imitators.
Thing is, if any of those women took out their swords and started waving them at me, I'd run away unless I was wearing something a good deal more functional than a chainmail bikini.
Well, given that the sword was sharp, etc.
I, for one, appreciate Red Sonja and her imitators.Thing is, if any of those women took out their swords and started waving them at me, I'd run away unless I was wearing something a good deal more functional than a chainmail bikini.
Well, given that the sword was sharp, etc.
I agree that it's silly, but it's a well-loved fantasy trope, and wherever there are nerds, there will be chainmail bikinis. Ridiculously skimpy ones, of course.
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I hate Armor as DR.Funny, I thought that was more like the way body armor really works. Of course, there I go again trying to insert reality into an unrealistic game... :P
I hate it because it really screws with healing and other mechanics in the game, and honestly I think it is a needlessly complicated addition to the game. I'm not really sure that it's how armor really works, either. I think it give the illusion of feeling more like armor might work, but that's really more a matter of personal preference. If there where to be a change in armor, and this is way off topic, . . ., I'd want something more along the lines of WoD, where it downgrades damage, rather than straight negating it. But we should venture back on topic. :)
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I hate it because it really screws with healing and other mechanics in the game, and honestly I think it is a needlessly complicated addition to the game. I'm not really sure that it's how armor really works, either. I think it give the illusion of feeling more like armor might work, but that's really more a matter of personal preference. If there where to be a change in armor, and this is way off topic, . . ., I'd want something more along the lines of WoD, where it downgrades damage, rather than straight negating it. But we should venture back on topic. :)
Well, lemme put it to you this way (I'm gonna venture off topic just a little bit longer)...
That 'Interceptor' vest I wore when I was in Iraq years ago, and that I'm pretty sure you're wearing in Afghanistan (unless they've finally gotten something better-- not that it's that bad)-- now, if an insurgent shoots at you with an AK, that vest doesn't do a goddamn thing to make you harder to hit, doesn't help you dodge, doesn't make you harder to see... doesn't do anything to alter or confuse that insurgent PoS's aim at all-- but when that AK bullet slams into your chest-- that vest (w/ ceramic plates) stops the bullet cold, prevents it from penetrating at all... maybe it knocks you on your ass, knocks the wind out of you and leaves you with a really nasty bruise... but it sure beats a gaping hole torn through your chest (and all the nasty, usually fatal, effects that go with that...).
Same primary effect goes with any type of body armor-- doesn't stop you from getting hit, but (if it works) it stops whatever hit you from doing as much damage as it would have if you weren't wearing armor. To some extent, good armor may do some of the job of protecting you by deflecting the force of a strike rather than just blocking/absorbing/spreading the force of impact, but the general point remains the same: it stops penetration and absorbs/spreads/dissipates impact force.
But you're right-- that sort of effect doesn't work with PF mechanics-- it does mess with healing and everything else in a class/level/hit points represent something more than just how much physical abuse can your body actually take. Also, if one wants to get realistic-- you're right in that armor does not necessarily negate damage entirely, as opposed to reducing it, and the system has to account for whether the attack struck your armor, or struck an unarmored part of you (which WoD's "armor adds to soak" mechanic can be thought of as partially representing).
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I don't have a problem with Armor as DR, but under that system you'd probably have to away with hit points and replace them with Con damage. (I miss Traveller.)
Well, yeah-- I don't advocate it as something that belongs in PF... but it works great in RuneQuest (at least the original version), GURPS, Cyberpunk, et al.... (games which also handle damage very differently from PF/D&D) :D
Chauvinism means something along the lines of overly loyal, overly devout to something no matter what. It has nothing to do with feministism, or anything sexual or gender based.
Fun romp through history here.
You can click as you please, but I recommend going to Nicolas Chauvin de Rochefort and then Pierre Cambronne, but surf as you will.
Well, yeah-- I don't advocate it as something that belongs in PF... but it works great in RuneQuest (at least the original version), GURPS, Cyberpunk, et al.... (games which also handle damage very differently from PF/D&D) :D
I don't have a problem with Armor as DR, but under that system you'd probably have to away with hit points and replace them with Con damage. (I miss Traveller.)
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.RuneQuest/Basic Roleplaying sometime use hit locations as well, You can have different Armor Points in the different HL... Mongoose RQ is a little bit less deadly than the old RQ (where getting both of your arms broken would kill you) by getting rid of total hit points.
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RuneQuest/Basic Roleplaying sometime use hit locations as well, You can have different Armor Points in the different HL... Mongoose RQ is a little bit less deadly than the old RQ (where getting both of your arms broken would kill you) by getting rid of total hit points.
Ah yes, I remember that well. I haven't played the Mongoose RQ (yet), but I played Chaosium's RQ in its 1st and 2nd editions for years back in the day (still, mechanically speaking, one of my favorite systems)... Although, total hit points makes sense-- if you lose both arms, it won't push you down to -6 and beyond (as I recall, there were limits to how much you could actually lose to total hit points via loss of each limb), and it's not one of the "you're dying" areas if you go negative, so-- actually it wouldn't kill you... although you would, quite realistically, drop from shock and be out of the fight.
Yeah i remember times in midgard when i just put my head out to look around a corner and immediately got an orc arrow in the eye, right at the start of the adventure. Instant death.
Of course that can be fun too, but it also can seriously hamper the game, because you always need some backup characters and introduction to the group again etc.
Then it can also mean everytime the GM rolls a 20, some player is going to die. With my current GM a desaster. He rolls more 20`s then the group together.