Questions about Dawnflower Dervish (Bard)


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So I like the idea of the Dawnflower Dervish and wanted to build my next character around the concept.

I'd just like to know the following... I intend to go Bard 1/Fighter 6/Duelist 5. One of the reqs for Duelist is Weapon Finesse. Now, Dawnflower Dervish grants Dervish Dance as a bonus feat. Dervish Dance requires Weapon Finesse.

Does Dervish Dance count as having granted Weapon Finesse for purposes of taking prestige classes?

My gut says no but I'd like to know before I 'waste' a feat.

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Dezhem wrote:

So I like the idea of the Dawnflower Dervish and wanted to build my next character around the concept.

I'd just like to know the following... I intend to go Bard 1/Fighter 6/Duelist 5. One of the reqs for Duelist is Weapon Finesse. Now, Dawnflower Dervish grants Dervish Dance as a bonus feat. Dervish Dance requires Weapon Finesse.

Does Dervish Dance count as having granted Weapon Finesse for purposes of taking prestige classes?

My gut says no but I'd like to know before I 'waste' a feat.

The answer is no. The class grants you Dervish Dance and waives the normal requirements for the feat, but you still don't count as having those requirements - you've merely sidestepped the necessity for them, as least insofar as when qualifying for Dervish Dance.

For another example, look at Duelist - the class ends up granting you Deflect Arrows, but you still don't have Improved Unarmed Strike, and you aren't treated as if you did.

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Thanks. I thought as much but nice to have it confirmed.

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