Ultimate Combat errata? Jolting Portent


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Silver Crusade

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In the Jolting Portent description it calls out the saving throw calculation as 10 + 1/2 caster level + Charisma (Oracle)or Wisdom (Cleric).
Is this correct as stated or should it be "Charisma MODIFIER(Oracle)or Wisdom MODIFIER (Cleric)"?
For my 13th level cleric with a 22 Wisdom it becomes a DC38 saving throw, which might be OK for a 7th level spell cast on a singular creature but it is definately questionable. Please verify.

Silver Crusade

bump...


I have never ever heard of adding the whole score to something... That would mean even if you had a 5, a truly horrible score, you'd still get a bonus.

Silver Crusade

Yeh, but to cast a 7th level spell you would need a minimum 17 ability score.
Also note that for a 7th level spell, it is pretty low powered unless the RAW is correct. When you look at it, it only affects 1 creature, is affected by spell resistance and is against Fort. Also, the section addressing damage calls out "modifier" whereas the section addressing save does not.

Rocky Williams 530 wrote:
I have never ever heard of adding the whole score to something... That would mean even if you had a 5, a truly horrible score, you'd still get a bonus.


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belbearvan wrote:

Yeh, but to cast a 7th level spell you would need a minimum 17 ability score.

Also note that for a 7th level spell, it is pretty low powered unless the RAW is correct. When you look at it, it only affects 1 creature, is affected by spell resistance and is against Fort. Also, the section addressing damage calls out "modifier" whereas the section addressing save does not.

Rocky Williams 530 wrote:
I have never ever heard of adding the whole score to something... That would mean even if you had a 5, a truly horrible score, you'd still get a bonus.

It should say modifier. Trust me. You'll never see a DC for an ability calculated off of an ability score like that. Ever. Not as long as the rules remain as they are anyway.

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