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and this from Matt Forbeck.
OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I wasnt trying to say that Slavicsek got laid off, but alluding to the fact that WOTC does this every year and there are more to come according to both @mforbeck and @monteJcook on twitter....
and this from Matt Forbeck.OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
Now that's unexpected. Usually, they perform their mass s!+!cannings near the holidays.
and this from Matt Forbeck.OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...
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and this from Matt Forbeck.Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
Really? What have you heard?
Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...
I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".
I wonder who else was axed.
and this from Matt Forbeck.Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
If I were the betting type, I'd have money on either this GenCon or the next for their big announcement.
If I were the betting type, I'd have money on either this GenCon or the next for their big announcement.
My money is (and has been) on this GenCon. I thought the writing was on the wall as soon as the release schedule dried up.
I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".
Maybe because many of them are B.S., and those that aren't originate with people who actually have a vested interest in ensuring their names aren't provided?
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If I were the betting type, I'd have money on either this GenCon or the next for their big announcement.My money is (and has been) on this GenCon. I thought the writing was on the wall as soon as the release schedule dried up.
See, that's a good reason for speculation. I want that dirty gossip though! Somebody throw some stank on this, quick!
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Hmmm....as much as i hate Bill's work and his destruction of whatever he gets his hands on, i am sad that a man lost a job. Hope that Paizo doesn't take him in though.
Bill Slavicsek did some fantastic work for the old d6 Star Wars RPG from West End Games back in the day. He also worked on the Dark Sun campaign setting for TSR and did some good work for WoTC in the early days of 3E - including large chunks of the d20 Modern product line. Although I don't like the direction that D&D has taken with 4E, I respect a lot of Bill's past work and wish him all the best for the future.
Sucks that some people are losing their jobs, especially in this labor market. :(
See, that's a good reason for speculation. I want that dirty gossip though! Somebody throw some stank on this, quick!
LOL. Lest I start a rumor, let me be absolutely clear: My opinion is 100% speculation. ;-)
Sad, very sad...
Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".
I've been hearing those rumors since PHB2 was released. They are mostly just talk.
I also don't believe rumors need to be in quotes. Rumors are already defined as "an unverified account". Quotes are usually to lend doubt to so-called "facts".
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
*Shrug*
Monte Cook tweeting about it is "real" enough for me.
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Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".I've been hearing those rumors since PHB2 was released. They are mostly just talk.
I also don't believe rumors need to be in quotes. Rumors are already defined as "an unverified account". Quotes are usually to lend doubt to so-called "facts".
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
Bingo. I was wondering where it was said that Mr. Slavicek was laid off. So far as I can tell, he quit.
Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".I've been hearing those rumors since PHB2 was released. They are mostly just talk.
I also don't believe rumors need to be in quotes. Rumors are already defined as "an unverified account". Quotes are usually to lend doubt to so-called "facts".
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
Unless you want to call Owen Stephens of Super Genius games a liar.
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Unless you want to call Owen Stephens of Super Genius games a liar.Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".I've been hearing those rumors since PHB2 was released. They are mostly just talk.
I also don't believe rumors need to be in quotes. Rumors are already defined as "an unverified account". Quotes are usually to lend doubt to so-called "facts".
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
Dang dude, pull out the guns already? Chill pill. You got your source out, don't go using fighting words for those of us who are still trying to figure out what is going on with this whole thing.
Been hearing rumors of 5E...wonder if it's going to be under a new director that's why Bill is departing. Then again it could just be rumors...have to wait til after GenCon I'm sure...I wonder why no one ever provides sources of these "rumors".I've been hearing those rumors since PHB2 was released. They are mostly just talk.
I also don't believe rumors need to be in quotes. Rumors are already defined as "an unverified account". Quotes are usually to lend doubt to so-called "facts".
So far the layoffs are just rumors from twitter. While sometimes news gets bantered around on twitter, unless someone points to a real post somewhere its just noise.
Unless you want to call Owen Stephens of Super Genius games a liar.
I don't. Now that I've seen it from multiple trusted sources (not one tweet from one guy who said rumor, not confirmed) it moves beyond mere rumors.
The implication that this means a new edition is still just wild internet speculation though.
The implication that this means a new edition is still just wild internet speculation though.
I don't think anyone disagrees. In fact, I specifically stated as much upthread. ;)
Unless you want to call Owen Stephens of Super Genius games a liar.I don't. Now that I've seen it from multiple trusted sources (not one tweet from one guy who said rumor, not confirmed) it moves beyond mere rumors.
The implication that this means a new edition is still just wild internet speculation though.
In THIS we are in agreement.
Oh man! I can't wait for 5th Edition! I've already got a set of d30s ordered!
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Oh man! I can't wait for 5th Edition! I've already got a set of d30s ordered!
You can get in on the early playtest here. It uses d3, d5, d7, d14, d16, d24, d30, and d% as well.
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Oh man! I can't wait for 5th Edition! I've already got a set of d30s ordered!You can get in on the early playtest here. It uses d3, d5, d7, d14, d16, d24, d30, and d% as well.
d%??? That's rabbid speculation! :P
and this from Matt Forbeck.OUCH.
Despite my strong feelings about 4E and the fact that I'm not really a customer of thier products anymore it still sucks that d00dz are getting laid off like this.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I wasnt trying to say that Slavicsek got laid off, but alluding to the fact that WOTC does this every year and there are more to come according to both @mforbeck and @monteJcook on twitter....
Holy s%!!. Not good, methinks, for anyone involved. I may not like Slavicek's work very much, but still, to lose a job now....
I hear 5E will abandon the d20.Some d12 love, or are they gonna switch to the Graph Calculator system? :P
Nope, the SRS (Slide Rule System) is right around the corner! :-P
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Oh man! I can't wait for 5th Edition! I've already got a set of d30s ordered!
There will also be a simultaneous launch of customizable virtual miniatures and a 3DTV virtual tabletop. All fully functional and available on launch day as part of a new subscription service, which will include all new artwork and frequent updates and add-ons for an additional fee. They promise.
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Well, it beats the Abacus system. *shrug*Nope, the SRS (Slide Rule System) is right around the corner! :-PI hear 5E will abandon the d20.Some d12 love, or are they gonna switch to the Graph Calculator system? :P
Only for simple folk who can't be bothered with the higher education required to grasp it. If you would only take the time to learn it you would see it's no more complicated than a slide rule.
Only for simple folk who can't be bothered with the higher education required to grasp it. If you would only take the time to learn it you would see it's no more complicated than a slide rule.Well, it beats the Abacus system. *shrug*Nope, the SRS (Slide Rule System) is right around the corner! :-PI hear 5E will abandon the d20.Some d12 love, or are they gonna switch to the Graph Calculator system? :P
Well I guess I'm just spoiled with my use of wolframalpha.
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Well I guess I'm just spoiled with my use of wolframalpha.Only for simple folk who can't be bothered with the higher education required to grasp it. If you would only take the time to learn it you would see it's no more complicated than a slide rule.Well, it beats the Abacus system. *shrug*Nope, the SRS (Slide Rule System) is right around the corner! :-PI hear 5E will abandon the d20.Some d12 love, or are they gonna switch to the Graph Calculator system? :P
No, you're not. :P
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Only for simple folk who can't be bothered with the higher education required to grasp it. If you would only take the time to learn it you would see it's no more complicated than a slide rule.Well, it beats the Abacus system. *shrug*Nope, the SRS (Slide Rule System) is right around the corner! :-PI hear 5E will abandon the d20.Some d12 love, or are they gonna switch to the Graph Calculator system? :P
Have you seen the abacus they're rumored to use!? That thing is so dumbed down...
If I were the betting type, I'd have money on either this GenCon or the next for their big announcement.My money is (and has been) on this GenCon. I thought the writing was on the wall as soon as the release schedule dried up.
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Man, I hope there's no relationship between this thread and this one.
There is not.
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Man, I hope there's no relationship between this thread and this one.There is not.
Thanks, I feel better now.
Oh man! I can't wait for 5th Edition! I've already got a set of d30s ordered!There will also be a simultaneous launch of customizable virtual miniatures and a 3DTV virtual tabletop. All fully functional and available on launch day as part of a new subscription service, which will include all new artwork and frequent updates and add-ons for an additional fee. They promise.
LOL!
Dried up?
While kind, I am afraid I must pass on your offer of an edition war. ;)
Dried up?If I were the betting type, I'd have money on either this GenCon or the next for their big announcement.My money is (and has been) on this GenCon. I thought the writing was on the wall as soon as the release schedule dried up.While kind, I am afraid I must pass on your offer of an edition war. ;)
Do it for old time's sake. :P
Besides, if it's 5e the addition wars shall start anew!!!
*stokes flames*