Why would you have to make wrist movements while playing?Unless they've drastically changed the operation of regular mice in the last few years, they always seemed to take an absurd amount of moving around.
Ah. Now I get it. I overlooked the trackball part. Never got used to them.
However, with the mice of today, with thousands of DPI, you could just crank it way up. That way, when a housefly collides with the mouse, you pirouette in place in the game about 200 times within a second. :)
And enough of this "all Wii games are kiddy shovelware" crap. Is there some games like that on the Wii? Of course. There's also some games like that on the PS3, the 360, and every other console ever release. If you judge a console by it's BAD games, they're all crap. Judge it by it's good games.
Done and done. And there's both more and better games for the PS3/360 than the Wii. Sorry, that's just the way things go. I have 40+ games for those two systems, and a grand total of 7 for my dust-gathering Wii.
Yeah, I've judged the Wii by its good games... and it fails miserably.
I'm glad you like it, though.
As for the WiiU... not yet impressed. Definitely happy they're going in a better direction than in the past, but I already own a PS3 and 360, so 'more of the same' in terms of games isn't going to get me to look in their direction. Fool me once, and all that. Nintendo has had a rough batch of consoles over the past decade, and I've steadily moved away from that company and its offerings.
And not sure of the pricing... those controllers sure won't be competitive with anything else out there.
However - moving away (at least a little bit) from crappy motion controls and the Wii is definitely the right direction, AFAIC. I'll get it after a few years when (and if) some good exclusives come out for it. Any multi-system release, though, will continue to go to my PS3.
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Done and done. And there's both more and better games for the PS3/360 than the Wii. Sorry, that's just the way things go. I have 40+ games for those two systems, and a grand total of 7 for my dust-gathering Wii.
Oppinions differ. For me, the 360's library consists almost entirely of games that I don't care for. I'd be hard-pressed to come up with 7 titles on that system that I'd play even if given them and the system for free. It is, for me, possibly the least appealing console ever, with the possible exception of the original XBox.
Done and done. And there's both more and better games for the PS3/360 than the Wii. Sorry, that's just the way things go. I have 40+ games for those two systems, and a grand total of 7 for my dust-gathering Wii.Oppinions differ. For me, the 360's library consists almost entirely of games that I don't care for. I'd be hard-pressed to come up with 7 titles on that system that I'd play even if given them and the system for free. It is, for me, possibly the least appealing console ever, with the possible exception of the original XBox.
The Xbox always seemed as "other" console to me.
If you want tech, you get a PS3 which sports a blu-ray drive (and, as far as I know, it's the more powerful machine in general, too).
(Well, actually, if you want tech, you get a PC. But let's stick to consoles.)
If you want gimmicks, you get a Wii which has great motion controls and all that.
What speaks for the xbox?
I don't forget anything. Okami was PS2 first. Then they did a Wii version, and, frankly, Okami is perfectly suited for the Wii.
Alien Syndrome was a multiplatform release that was far better on the PSP than the Wii, according to most reviews, but that doesn't make it a PSP game regardless of suitability. Ditto Okami and its port.
ESDF, amateur. If you think those little sticks are so nice, let's meet for a short deathmatch - I use my Keyboard and Mouse, you use your gamepad.I'll declare you a winner if you manage to get a KDR better than 0.1.
I don't think you'll manage that.
I'd have to pick a shooter, first, and on that front for all my rustiness I'd have you meet on equal terms in both games - I'm considering Resistance: Fall of Man for stick duel, UTClassic or 2003 for 'ESDF'-off, emphasis on the F-off. :D
(sliding one key to the right puts one out of alignment for >90 of default shooter configurations on keyboard, which to me is silly, since E has forever been the 'action' button in most of that ilk, which is, to me, odd)
For mixed media, I want a game that's suitably neutral ground; possibly Borderlands, since I play that one both ways. I'll have to reinstall though.
Nonsense.
Deny it all you want, it was terribad.
You will not SEE the end of this day!!!! }>
Speaking of amateaurs...
What speaks for the xbox?It has all genres of games:
WWII FPS
Modern FPS
Sci-Fi FPS
Madden
Tiger
Hee hee hee. Still won't play FPS on anything but PC. Maybe Wii.
Alien Syndrome was a multiplatform release that was far better on the PSP than the Wii, according to most reviews, but that doesn't make it a PSP game regardless of suitability. Ditto Okami and its port.
So what does a Wii game make? Or a PS3 game? Or whatever? Are those the games that are available for a single console? Which is, of course, a lot of nonsense. And it means that Assassin's Creed is not a console game.
I'd have to pick a shooter, first, and on that front for all my rustiness I'd have you meet on equal terms in both games - I'm considering Resistance: Fall of Man for stick duel, UTClassic or 2003 for 'ESDF'-off, emphasis on the F-off. :D
UT2003? I was suggesting a nice FPS fight, not an ancient history lesson.
Let's do UT3, or maybe Crysis 2. Maximum Whoopass!
If you want some war game, too, we can do BFBC2.
And no Resistance. That's a PS3 game. I don't do PS3 shooters. There's no way to play them right.
(sliding one key to the right puts one out of alignment for >90 of default shooter configurations on keyboard, which to me is silly, since E has forever been the 'action' button in most of that ilk, which is, to me, odd)
Default configuration? Who does that? I resign it the way I want. That usually involves assigning a lot of stuff that is usually done with the keyboard to my mouse.
Speaking of amateaurs... Golden fleece reflect goes here, followed by Barbarian Hammer, 'cause retro is always appropriate
There's no counter to a fatality.
So what does a Wii game make? Or a PS3 game? Or whatever? Are those the games that are available for a single console? Which is, of course, a lot of nonsense. And it means that Assassin's Creed is not a console game.
To answer your first question, waggle and gimmick. To the second, over-ambition and frequently under-appreciation. Frequently, there are games that become genre-associated, or at the very least thematically linked, to their original points of world-entry; as has been inferred by others in this thread, most people tend to think of "Halos of War Madden" in terms of XBox action, and while the "No Games" meme still hasn't died off yet, looking at my PS3 library indicates that I trend towards Beat-Em-Ups, Fighting Games, and a large number of sandbox-y titles. Also, Asassin's Creed is multiplatform, but that just makes for the PC being a prime console emulator, noted with tongue firmly planted in cheek. (Tangential - certain games are quintessentially PC - Roguelikes, for example, and classic Point'n'click adventures. I couldn't see EVE Online working for consoles terribly well, and while I want a true sequel to Star Control 2, I would not want it on a console).
UT2003? I was suggesting a nice FPS fight, not an ancient history lesson.
Let's do UT3, or maybe Crysis 2. Maximum Whoopass!
If you want some war game, too, we can do BFBC2.
And no Resistance. That's a PS3 game. I don't do PS3 shooters. There's no way to play them right.
Limits are for the fettered.
That being said, I'm not crazy about UT3. I've not been able to put my finger on what it is, exactly, but it's missing -something-. I still have it, I've just not been interested in that one. It gets boring so quickly. Then again, it may be the relative lack of mods that does it, since that was my favorite part of the game. If I was feeling especially old-school, I'd say classic Rocket Crowbar for Half Life 1.
But no goddamned Counterstrike. UGH. That's what first started putting me off the genre I used to love so much.
Default configuration? Who does that? I resign it the way I want. That usually involves assigning a lot of stuff that is usually done with the keyboard to my mouse.
I tend not to - mostly out of laziness and apathy. I may do OVER NINE THOUSAND tweaks to an OS, but games I tend to be happy with default config, excluding some fighting games.
There's no counter to a fatality.
But there IS a counter to the Petrification Gaze in the game series I was sourcing, DO try to keep up.
:D
The lack of Kung Pow references in this thread is shocking.
And you travelled so many miles for those references. How many miles? Would you say... ten million miles?
To answer your first question, waggle and gimmick.
Beyond the obvious "that's nonsense", the Wii version had that. The Celestial Brush came into its own then.
Tangential - certain games are quintessentially PC
FPS, for example. At least those with the proper control scheme. And no auto-aim.
Limits are for the fettered.
Playing a FPS where you are forced to use a pad is quite limiting - and makes no sense if the contest is supposed to show how much better KM is than GP.
That being said, I'm not crazy about UT3.
Crysis 2 then. It's actually a console game they ported to the PC (thankless little bastards they are.)
But no g*~!%*ned Counterstrike. UGH. That's what first started putting me off the genre I used to love so much.
I didn't mention CS, but I'd be up for it. Haven't played it for a while (too many 12-year-olds in there), but shouldn't be too hard to get back in.
Not that they're absent in other games. I had two people accuse me of cheating in the last couple of days in Crysis 2.