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I use d20pfsrd.com all the time. Hasn't stopped me from subscribing to multiple Paizo product lines...
And it hasn't stopped me from maintaining my subscriptions, either. It's all Open Content, all Paizo or my favorite 3PP Pathfinder-compatible publishers.
(I just wish there was more from SGG on there, or like some way to have access to a d20pfsrd-style site for SGG content.)
Mage, did you ever try to see if you could get this to work in Chrome? Last I checked, there were some unsupported function calls that kept it from working for us Chrome folks.
I did not; however, since I have a four-day weekend I think I'll give it a shot.
That's very generous of you, thanks and good luck! :)
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar...
It works! :D
I prefer to have the hard books on hand... and it can sometimes get daunting with the 'extra' stuff mixed in with the 'core' stuff. (one game we're running we're limited to whats in the core book only...
HOWEVER... That Spell Card Generator is worth it's wait in GOLD, and with more and more books coming out, It's ony going to be MORE valuable!! Also, since I don't OWN all the books, So having ALL the spells in an easy database... Oh yes... LOVE that site!
Can only speak for myself, but:
I have bought all of the PF rulebooks available and will continue to buy them.
I still get a LOT of use out of d20pfsrd.
You're speaking for me, as well. I only buy the hard copy books, but the d20pfsrd is a lifesaver for me during game prep. I'm really grateful to the volunteers who maintain and update the site, as well as to Erik and the rest of the Paizo staff who allow them to create this valuable service.
Can only speak for myself, but:
I have bought all of the PF rulebooks available and will continue to buy them.
I still get a LOT of use out of d20pfsrd.
Same for me. Websites are great for quick reference, but I still buy the books because I would never be able to read lenghty texts on a computer. Also, the art is way too inspiring for me to ignore it.
I appreciate the PFSRD for the ability to help prep my adventures. The utilitites on the site are great.
Is it safe to say, despite the thread title, that d20pfsrd.com's popularity has risen to a new high? :)
Is it safe to say, despite the thread title, that d20pfsrd.com's popularity has risen to a new high? :)
Google Analytics says yes.
I hope that my announcement of the Mairkurion-Stephens death match doesn't result in a similar bump for SGG. Oh, wait, yes I do. All SGG's products are electronic, right? So that means he can't sell out of the stuff I'm going to eventually win if it's all electronic product.
4 Winds Fantasy Gaming has always been happy with d20PFSRD. Never had a complaint, and I echo the sentiments of many other publishers that have already commented.
As a side note, I make about equal use of the PRD and the d20PFSRD in my game planning. At the game table, I also use both, especially when something unexpected happens that I didn't have planned and I don't have the book(s) I need handy.
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I've said this in the past but either we didn't have as much love then or my offer was not noticed. We'd love to help promote any 3rd party publisher in creative ways. The site averages over 30,000 visits a day now or 3 million page views per month. If you are a 3rd Party Publisher for Pathfinder, and want some free promotion, all you have to do is contact me and lets discuss it. We'll work with any who do, in the order we're contacted :)
So-called "negative publicity" at work? ;-)
Whatever works baby, whatever works.
When I get my Legendary Games stuff up and running (which is getting closer and closer) I hope the open content gets posted on d20pfsrd. In fact, I might even help them do it.
I am a HUGE supporter of Open Game Content and Ryan Dancey's vision. Without it, we wouldn't have Pathfinder.
In fact, it appears that because of the cohesiveness of the Pathfinder community (something that was never true of the 3E community) d20pfsrd may accomplish what was long desired but never realized during the 3E days--a single repository site for all the open content that is official and from the 3Ps.
A big part of the credit, of course, goes not only to the guys at d20pfsrd but to the people at Paizo who continue to crank out awesome open game content.
Clark
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Available online or not. I fully intend to buy the book. While I appreciate the online access for quick reference I love having the tangible book in my bag when I play and create my character.
Exactly! But online resources are a big help for me as a GM, and I use both PRD and D20PFSRD a *lot*. I use the former to look up rules, equipment, class features, and so on. The latter is especially helpful if I need a quick NPC stat block, or a converted monster (for example, carrionstorm) from a book I don't have. Also, sometimes you might have to write material without access to your books, which is what happened to me last time I was visiting my friends in my former hometown. To give a concrete example: I needed the stats for the medusa head and the mudra skeleton, but had accidentally left my copies of Haunting of Harrowstone and Classic Horrors Revisited at home. I thought of calling mrs. Asgetrion to scan the relevant pages, but as a CE Half-Fiend/Half-Dwarf/Half-Harpy she might have eaten the book instead. What to do? I knew D20PFSRD updates its monster database quite often, so I did a quick search and found the stats for both! Then I just copy-pasted the stat blocks and made some minor modifications (advanced template for the medusa head and some fighter levels for the skeleton).
So, keep up the good work, guys; both sites are helpful and needed! :)
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I hope that my announcement of the Mairkurion-Stephens death match doesn't result in a similar bump for SGG. Oh, wait, yes I do. All SGG's products are electronic, right? So that means he can't sell out of the stuff I'm going to eventually win if it's all electronic product.
Death match? As if you weren't already more than half-dead, old treant! ;P
Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds
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I've said this in the past but either we didn't have as much love then or my offer was not noticed. We'd love to help promote any 3rd party publisher in creative ways. The site averages over 30,000 visits a day now or 3 million page views per month. If you are a 3rd Party Publisher for Pathfinder, and want some free promotion, all you have to do is contact me and lets discuss it. We'll work with any who do, in the order we're contacted :)
I keep coming back to this, this morning, and wondering: is there a way for stores to get promoted, as well? Not sure, and just wondering, is all. If not, no biggie. I'll continue to do what I said earlier in the thread and make use of you regularly.
I also own every Paizo book ever but find the pfd20srd invaluable during game prep. (And Hero Lab, for NPC building). There are so many Paizo books now that finding specific stuff from within the corpus isn't feasible. If nothing else it serves as a master index. And linking spells/abilities/etc in monster entries is practically why hyperlinking was invented. Great work.
I'm a huge fan of the d20pfsrd, though I wish the equipment lists were put together better, I am not a 'fan' of all the 'fan' content either :p
That's my only gripe. It gets confusing sometimes when players in my game don't look at the source before they utilize something, and it ends up being fan content BS. I'd love to have a button to "turn off" the fan content listings, but I'm pretty sure that's outside their capabilities with their current Content Management System.
I keep coming back to this, this morning, and wondering: is there a way for stores to get promoted, as well? Not sure, and just wondering, is all. If not, no biggie. I'll continue to do what I said earlier in the thread and make use of you regularly.
Drogon: I certainly didn't meant to leave you stores out of the mix. It was an accidental oversight. If you have an existing banner ad or something we could put up on the site or a store bio and location info, send it over to me and we'll get you added into the sidebar which shows on EVERY PAGE of the site. We'll leave you there at least 30 days or until another store or 3rd party publisher asks for some exposure, whichever is longer (so you would get at least 30 days for sure.)
No charge people. Free advertising to any who want it, all you have to do is contact me (jreyst@gmail.com)
Edit: Forgot to mention: If you (or anyone) sends me an ad graphic, please make it no wider than 120px so it will fit in the sidebar correctly. If you send just text that's fine as long as its not more than about 100 words or so.
Double-edit: If anyone has any ideas for anything more involved than this, send us your thoughts. I'm talking about ongoing promotional type things where we promote one specific product or something. All you have to do is get in touch with me so we can figure out the most creative way to do it.
I've got to say that it hasn't stopped me from getting the book. If anything, its made me want it more, and has helped me to not hyperventilate while waiting for the 18th.
I agree. Seeing the material online has told me that I don't need the book yet. But I know which friend to buy it for as a birthday present, and I will surely but it when I get around to playing a Wizard.
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I'm a huge fan of the d20pfsrd, though I wish the equipment lists were put together better, I am not a 'fan' of all the 'fan' content either :pThat's my only gripe. It gets confusing sometimes when players in my game don't look at the source before they utilize something, and it ends up being fan content BS. I'd love to have a button to "turn off" the fan content listings, but I'm pretty sure that's outside their capabilities with their current Content Management System.
I wish there was more of this for all sections of the entire site. A way to turn on and off content by publisher, some sort of selection by checkboxes system.
I'm a huge fan of the d20pfsrd, though I wish the equipment lists were put together better, I am not a 'fan' of all the 'fan' content either :pThat's my only gripe. It gets confusing sometimes when players in my game don't look at the source before they utilize something, and it ends up being fan content BS. I'd love to have a button to "turn off" the fan content listings, but I'm pretty sure that's outside their capabilities with their current Content Management System.
I think it's been mentioned by the "fan content" is mostly fan conversions of monsters from pre-pathfinder APs and other sources like the Beatific One as an example.
As a DM I find the site as the perfect place to find any templates that I'm interested in using in a adventure I'm running no matter where the content comes from.
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I'd love to have a button to "turn off" the fan content listings, but I'm pretty sure that's outside their capabilities with their current Content Management System.
We've heard this many times about the "fan content" stuff but I do want to reiterate that virtually none of the content labeled "fan content" is created wholly by a "fan" but is in 99.9% of the cases a conversion one of the collaborators did of something pre-PFRPG rules. Almost everything we post gets reviewed by multiple sets of eyes all throughout the conversion process to make sure it adheres to the official conversion guidelines and while sometimes some amount of "artistic license" is necessary, all of these choices are fully vetted and reviewed by the crew, usually multiple times. That is 100% NOT to say that errors can not happen. They have, though considering the sheer number of things we've converted/posted, that number is ridiculously small. In any event, that's all I have to say about the "fan content" part of it. Basically, give it a shot. It's not like we post content randomly whipped up by any joe nobody in their basement. That stuff goes in the collaborator labs :)
Ok, now, about turning it on/off. I'd like to be able to have something like that too but the reality is that its extremely unlikely to happen anytime soon given our current architecture (which for many reasons isn't likely to change.) I am happy to say though that some of the content in question can easily be filtered in the various databases.
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We've heard this many times about the "fan content" stuff but I do want to reiterate that virtually none of the content labeled "fan content" is created wholly by a "fan" but is in 99.9% of the cases a conversion one of the collaborators did of something pre-PFRPG rules.
I think the 'fan content' designation might be better served by a different designation, like 'converted 3.5 PF material' or something.
Something about the words 'fan content' just brings up knee-jerk reactions, I think.
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I think the 'fan content' designation might be better served by a different designation, like 'converted 3.5 PF material' or something.
Something about the words 'fan content' just brings up knee-jerk reactions, I think.
We've had some discussions about this in the past and it probably deserves to be addressed sooner rather than later. I agree basically.
Ok, now, about turning it on/off. I'd like to be able to have something like that too but the reality is that its extremely unlikely to happen anytime soon given our current architecture (which for many reasons isn't likely to change.) I am happy to say though that some of the content in question can easily be filtered in the various databases.
That's what I figured, and I totally understand. When you're building with an off-the-shelf back end it's hard to support that sort of interface customization, and for a project like yours you simply can't justify the coding costs to create a custom back end.
Another idea - what if you just made fan content red text? That would more easily distinguish it, so my players don't keep accidentally using it.
What I'm guessing will happen is the Fan Content stamps will probably be broken into Converted content and actual fan content.
Yeah, especially as people don't appear to look down at the S15 to see it's from a book or the part of the fan stamp which says "Fan content or Conversion"
Splitting the two will definantly help people so that they can avoid what is truely done by a fan and what's simply a fan-made conversion that's posted, though to replace these stamps there's going to be a aweful lot of things to troll through to make this change.
When I get my Legendary Games stuff up and running (which is getting closer and closer) I hope the open content gets posted on d20pfsrd. In fact, I might even help them do it.
Clark
Clark,
As one of Necromancer Games biggest fans (and current supporter of FGG line of books) I would personally love to make this happen. When you get closer by all means contact any of us and I can guarantee that you will have a legion of people drop what they are doing and work on a project by your company./Legion of some
//more like 5-10
///ok me and people I pay to help
////slashies for slasher
Big fan of SRD.
I really like seeing updated erratta for my "OLD" pathfinder books, sure I have printed the published out but it this a GREAT resource.
Spellcard Generator is Friggin 5 Star material, LOVE it. Perfect for GM'ing Society play scenario's.
The volunteers and company does a stellar job.
I really like the fan content. But I see how some people may want easier navigation.
I hope the SRD site grows and thrives. I think it would be great to have a late night gencon event. I remember a site called Maximinis DDM forum would sell a custom map every year for 5-10 dollar pretty much to raise money. I would purchase a SRD fundraising game aid.
Something about the words 'fan content' just brings up knee-jerk reactions, I think.
It does for me -- it brings up thoughts of the odious "Pathdfinder Database," which consists of random pet and/or half-formed throw-away ideas with no attempt at balance, playtesting, or usability in-game.
We've had some discussions about this in the past and it probably deserves to be addressed sooner rather than later. I agree basically.I think the 'fan content' designation might be better served by a different designation, like 'converted 3.5 PF material' or something.
Something about the words 'fan content' just brings up knee-jerk reactions, I think.
This means we'll also have to change the mini tags too like seen in the bestiary with ones like [FAN]. I suggest that as people seem to not agree with fan and conversions being in the same catagory then may I coin [CON] as a short for Conversion?
This means we'll also have to change the mini tags too like seen in the bestiary with ones like [FAN]. I suggest that as people seem to not agree with fan and conversions being in the same catagory then may I coin [CON] as a short for Conversion?
We can discuss this on the d20pfsrd.com google group etc.
I like the site too; the only thing I don't like is that on a few occasions a sentence has been added to a rule by the site's creators. People who use the site as their rules-reference won't notice which sentences are not from the actual source, since the added sentence isn't labelled (at least that was the case the last time this happened). If the sentence then happens to make the rule work differently than it should, problems could occur.
Other than that though, I'm using the site more and more, especially for content that isn't yet on the official PRD :)
I suggest that as people seem to not agree with fan and conversions being in the same catagory then may I coin [CON] as a short for Conversion?
jreyst: Being as 'CON' is already an in-game abbreviation for Constitution, I'd strongly suggest something less likely to cause CONfusion. Perhaps CNV for CoNVersion or UPD for UPDate .
BTW, love the site. I've created a few templates on my own wiki that parse the names of spells and wondrous items and then link to the corresponding page on your site. The fact that you keep all of the spells in the same organizational structure (rather than dividing them by book) is a HUGE asset. I'd love to see the same thing done for Wondrous Items.
This means we'll also have to change the mini tags too like seen in the bestiary with ones like [FAN]. I suggest that as people seem to not agree with fan and conversions being in the same catagory then may I coin [CON] as a short for Conversion?We've had some discussions about this in the past and it probably deserves to be addressed sooner rather than later. I agree basically.I think the 'fan content' designation might be better served by a different designation, like 'converted 3.5 PF material' or something.
Something about the words 'fan content' just brings up knee-jerk reactions, I think.
And what would be the [PRO]?
I removed a post. Please don't advocate illegal activities.
Apologies! Wasn't meaning to advocate them.
While I have experience of breaking the rules, I didn't intend to suggest that it always turns out like the example in the removed post, or that that was anything approaching an ideal scenario.
The rules are there for good reasons, people do lose money when they get broken and stepping over the line has backfired on me dramatically more than once.
There are easier, safer and more ethical ways of doing things and I'd recommend them every time.
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I must say that if it hadn't been for d20pfsrd I would never have given Pathfinder a chance and would probably have given up on table top or still be using my old 3.5 material.
The fact that I could look at the classes, rules, ect. It allowed me to start up a Pathfinder game with my friends and see if it was for me. I approved of the changes it made and decided to start buying the books.
I truly fell in love with the art work and fluff from the books. Pathfinder books are really top notch but I wouldn't have even known about them had I not had the d20pfsrd.
Brilliant is an understatement when describing the benefits of that site for free advertisement. That site has caused over 20 people in 3 different states I know alone to start buying Pathfinder. (I'm in the military and move around). So thank you d20pfsrd and thank you Paizo for being open minded in allowing a site like this.
P.S. I have created a few conversions of prestige classes for pathfinder... namely the Rage Mage and the Frenzied Berserker. Where would the best place be to share it?