
Kryzbyn |

Kryzbyn wrote:In the US the most common age of consent is 16, but it varies state to state. Canada had 14 until a few years ago, as did some US states.Shuriken Nekogami wrote:...but the moment that conventionally attractive young woman on television...I think its one's definition of "young" that is the problem.
To me, a young woman baring something had better be at the youngest 19 or 20.
Legally, it's 18.
Oddly, 'age of constent' doesn't equal 'ok socially to see in a pornographic fashion'. And, I'm ok with this.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Q&A is a lot more dirty than T&A.Studpuffin wrote:I'm still trying to guess what the A stands for. I already got the Q part.If people are queuing up for it, it's got to be illegal!
Not yet it isn't, but it does take about 20 months worth of permits to get. Probably best to sail to international waters for it.

Abraham spalding |

Abraham spalding wrote:And on a silly note before I hit the sack, my money is on Imrijka being a Tsundere, hopefully not a Yandere. Otherwise poor Valeros is going to be for a world of hurt ...Mikaze wrote:Honestly I think it's a stroke of genius.A fey is fine too though. ;)
Still wondering where the Valeros/Imrijka pairing came from, but I support it, regardless.
To be fair he seems the type to enjoy that.

Darth Knight |

Why is it, that we have a sexuality taboo?
but extremely graphic violence is perfectly fine?
I don't get it.
American parents can allow their children to play games with massive amounts of violence, and watch movies loaded with blood and gore, but the moment that conventionally attractive young woman on television even does something minor as unfastening a simple buckle or drawstring. everyone flips out.
Unlike most Americans, I have no sexuality taboo.
I hate having to fake one to blend in.
and just because i heavily like Disgaea, Touhou, Rozen Maiden, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Strike Witches doesn't mean I'm a pedophile. heck, i don't even FAP to any of them.
So, some parents, like myself choose to watch TV with my children, even suggest books for them to read. Explaining why we do not allow them to watch/read or listen to graphic portrayals be it sexual, violent or otherwise. Not so much to censor what they get, but rather to make sure they understand what they are seeing. It is called parenting and is right and proper from my perspective to do so. For, once again, in my opinion, there are lines which should not be crossed without proper understanding of why those lines are in place.
As for not having any taboos, I hope that was a mistyping on your part. For having no taboos means enjoying behavior that to many up to including those I myself would not typically agree with, would find aberrant if not illegal.

Darth Knight |

Darth Knight wrote:Samnell wrote::) It's the hairy toes right!?!?
Ezren and Harsk aren't my type, but I could be induced to playfully flirt with Lem.Dude's plain hot. Cute, troubled past, into music. He's a bard so he certainly has a high charisma. Pretty blue eyes. Shaggy hair. Those fuzzy cute Seventies sideburns. Just look at him!
Also you can tell by how he carries his small short sword that he's got a dirty sense of humor.
He does nothing for me. sorry.

Darth Knight |

Snorter wrote:Not yet it isn't, but it does take about 20 months worth of permits to get. Probably best to sail to international waters for it.Dark_Mistress wrote:Q&A is a lot more dirty than T&A.Studpuffin wrote:I'm still trying to guess what the A stands for. I already got the Q part.If people are queuing up for it, it's got to be illegal!
What ever it is, if you need to be in international waters to film it, I do not want to know. I have images, thanks to "friends" in my head that no amount of brain bleach will ever remove.

Shuriken Nekogami |

Shuriken Nekogami wrote:Why is it, that we have a sexuality taboo?
but extremely graphic violence is perfectly fine?
I don't get it.
American parents can allow their children to play games with massive amounts of violence, and watch movies loaded with blood and gore, but the moment that conventionally attractive young woman on television even does something minor as unfastening a simple buckle or drawstring. everyone flips out.
Unlike most Americans, I have no sexuality taboo.
I hate having to fake one to blend in.
and just because i heavily like Disgaea, Touhou, Rozen Maiden, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Strike Witches doesn't mean I'm a pedophile. heck, i don't even FAP to any of them.
So, some parents, like myself choose to watch TV with my children, even suggest books for them to read. Explaining why we do not allow them to watch/read or listen to graphic portrayals be it sexual, violent or otherwise. Not so much to censor what they get, but rather to make sure they understand what they are seeing. It is called parenting and is right and proper from my perspective to do so. For, once again, in my opinion, there are lines which should not be crossed without proper understanding of why those lines are in place.
As for not having any taboos, I hope that was a mistyping on your part. For having no taboos means enjoying behavior that to many up to including those I myself would not typically agree with, would find aberrant if not illegal.
i may occasionally somewhat sexualize a character's background to add a little flavor to the character. but i have no sexual interest in the character at all.
and if you accuse me of using elements that can be seen as 'fetish fuel', i'm not the only 'writer' who incorperates such questionable elements. a great deal of Paizo's pathfinder iconics can be seen as walking mountains of 'fetish fuel'.
for example, Merisiel wears quite a lot of belts, wears a formfitting suit of leather armor seemingly designed more for sex appeal, likes to play with knives, has a short attention span, and has exotic pigmentations found only in anime. there are a lot of erotic fantasies that could come from such a character.
as we can see, every 'writer' likes to explore questionable tastes.
everybody who has played a tabletop game has engaged in amateur 'writing' and every one of us has utilized some kind of fetish fuel in our creations at some point.

Samnell |

As for not having any taboos, I hope that was a mistyping on your part. For having no taboos means enjoying behavior that to many up to including those I myself would not typically agree with, would find aberrant if not illegal.
It depends on what one means by taboo, I suppose. I don't think sexuality is inherently dirty, suspect, worthy of being hidden, or any of that. One could call that the absence of a sexuality taboo. I still think non-consensual sex (and only non-consensual sex) should be illegal, though. That could be considered a sexuality taboo.
To my mind the taboo deals more with social hangups (religious codes, social convention, notions of politeness) than reasonable prohibitions in the name of human rights and the like.

Shuriken Nekogami |

Darth Knight wrote:
As for not having any taboos, I hope that was a mistyping on your part. For having no taboos means enjoying behavior that to many up to including those I myself would not typically agree with, would find aberrant if not illegal.
It depends on what one means by taboo, I suppose. I don't think sexuality is inherently dirty, suspect, worthy of being hidden, or any of that. One could call that the absence of a sexuality taboo. I still think non-consensual sex (and only non-consensual sex) should be illegal, though. That could be considered a sexuality taboo.
To my mind the taboo deals more with social hangups (religious codes, social convention, notions of politeness) than reasonable prohibitions in the name of human rights and the like.
you have effectively said it for me. i am more like Samnell in this regard. i don't engage in illegal activities, because, they are, illegal. i respect the law enough to not perform such sexual acts upon children. and likely wouldn't harm them in such a way, even in a case where that law was removed.

Samnell |

Lem in action!Does this count as 'Inspire Courage' or 'Countersong'?
Countersong. There has to be something horrible that's being covered up to explain that noise.

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Studpuffin wrote:What ever it is, if you need to be in international waters to film it, I do not want to know. I have images, thanks to "friends" in my head that no amount of brain bleach will ever remove.Snorter wrote:Not yet it isn't, but it does take about 20 months worth of permits to get. Probably best to sail to international waters for it.Dark_Mistress wrote:Q&A is a lot more dirty than T&A.Studpuffin wrote:I'm still trying to guess what the A stands for. I already got the Q part.If people are queuing up for it, it's got to be illegal!
You put friends in quotes. Sad Puffin is Sad.

Samnell |

Treppa wrote:A short attention span is erotic fetish fuel? So fetishists fake ADD to go to the support group meetings?everything can be used as fetish fuel by somebody in this world.
That's the truth. I heard some men even fetishize women. To the point of wanting to have sex with them! Madness. :)

Monkeygod |

Listen, Shuriken, I have seen on several threads, people being uncomfortable, weirded out, etc by you, your characters and stuff you say. I have seen you kicked out of a PBP recruitment because of said behavior. And apparently, ALL your characters are that way.
Now, this thread has been created, pretty much cuz people are uncomfortable with some of the questions you have asked on the "Ask Merisiel" thread, and instead of taking any sort of responsibility and apologizing, you basically say "chill out peoples, it's just sex. stop being so uptight"...
Maybe, just maybe that's the wrong way to go about things. I have no problem with sex. I like sex, i enjoy having sex, i watch porn, etc. But it my D&D games, and I'm sure many others, they don't want such as you bring or portray it.
There's a saying or maybe it's a line from a song, or both "50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong"....think about that.

Darth Knight |

Darth Knight wrote:
As for not having any taboos, I hope that was a mistyping on your part. For having no taboos means enjoying behavior that to many up to including those I myself would not typically agree with, would find aberrant if not illegal.
It depends on what one means by taboo, I suppose. I don't think sexuality is inherently dirty, suspect, worthy of being hidden, or any of that. One could call that the absence of a sexuality taboo. I still think non-consensual sex (and only non-consensual sex) should be illegal, though. That could be considered a sexuality taboo.
To my mind the taboo deals more with social hangups (religious codes, social convention, notions of politeness) than reasonable prohibitions in the name of human rights and the like.
I do not think sex is wrong inherently dirty, though at times being dirty can be fun, suspect, worthy of being hidden, either. I disagree at where the line is drawn. While some of it is obviously for religious reasons, I am sure you would figure that out, your smart about those things. ;) I still feel the line has been drawn for a reason be it social conventions, religious codes, politeness, and that these should not be waved out of hand. They are there for a reason.
This then is the reason most people seem to have issues with many of the things posted by Shuriken. Many of them posted very intelligently and without obvious attacking of him and/or his quirks. The fact that he can't seem to 'get' this makes it even more suspect, at least from what I can tell to most posters.

Darth Knight |

Snorter wrote:Countersong. There has to be something horrible that's being covered up to explain that noise.
Lem in action!Does this count as 'Inspire Courage' or 'Countersong'?
Snerk.

Shuriken Nekogami |

fine. here is an apology for my 'perverted' ways.
reforming is hard. sometimes, one slips back to thier old habits. i am seeing a rehab group for this sort of thing, but they aren't helping very well.
Weekly William's M rated campaigns are the only real local group in the area i can reliably meet with my schedule and lack of proper transportation. and i have friendships with all of the other players, even if Weekly William requires you to suspend all social taboos.
all sorts of graphic things happen, and there is no real way to stop it. we pimped a goat to some half orc. and Will went along with it. because, he encourages, and even sometimes forces such things to happen.
he sexualizes anything that enters his campaign. even the pack animals you spend a few gold pieces to have carry your stuff.
the contents of these highly sexualized campaigns and playing them for years can explain some of my taint.
i think after the long time i spent in this campaign, that it will skew one's view of what is and what isn't appropriate.

AionicElf |

reforming is hard. sometimes, one slips back to thier old habits. i am seeing a rehab group for this sort of thing, but they aren't helping very well...
...i think after the long time i spent in this campaign, that it will skew one's view of what is and what isn't appropriate.
May I humbly and respectfully submit that, if your therapy and the content of your weekly gaming session are in conflict, you ought analyze which is more important to you: the recovery you are attempting through your therapy, or the game.
I do not tell you which is important. I am asking you to ask yourself that question.

Shuriken Nekogami |

so far, the therapy has done nothing. the game is a commitment i made prior to the therapy. i don't wish to betray the friends i made. and the therapists pay nothing more than lip service. and most of that group are more messed up than i am. just like my weekly game is.
so both are bad for me.
and it's the people on these board who reccomended i get therapy. and it's just making me worse.

Abraham spalding |

so far, the therapy has done nothing. the game is a commitment i made prior to the therapy. i don't wish to betray the friends i made. and the therapists pay nothing more than lip service. and most of that group are more messed up than i am. just like my weekly game is.
so both are bad for me.
and it's the people on these board who reccomended i get therapy. and it's just making me worse.
First off the martyr/victim routine is old and worn out. Stop it.
If the group is bad for you -- cut it off. I don't care if they are supposed to be friends -- they are not fulfilling their duties as such.
According to Webster's a friend is someone that adds value to your life -- if they are making things worse for you then they are not adding value and thus are not friends.
If the therapist isn't helping try another one -- however you have to honestly strive to do as advised as well. Lip service is a two way street -- if they don't feel you will honestly work to become better they aren't going to waste their efforts on you. You have to be able to trust them enough to allow them to help you, and they have to be able to believe in sincere effort on your behalf.
Now people here have recommended therapy for you because they are tired of the complexes and martyrdom attitude -- you are responsible for your actions, and words (words are actions)... not others. As such allowing people to be bad for you or not help is your own crime against yourself.
As such stop hurting you.
Now I'm finished with the topic of you -- do whatever you will -- just don't expect anyone else to deal with it.

Samnell |

I do not think sex is wrong inherently dirty, though at times being dirty can be fun, suspect, worthy of being hidden, either. I disagree at where the line is drawn. While some of it is obviously for religious reasons, I am sure you would figure that out, your smart about those things. ;) I still feel the line has been drawn for a reason be it social conventions, religious codes, politeness, and that these should not be waved out of hand. They are there for a reason.
Everything in society is the way it is for a reason. That's how people roll, and we're the ones that made and remake our societies. Not all of them are good reasons, but the good ones will withstand scrutiny without trouble.

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In the US the most common age of consent is 16, but it varies state to state. Canada had 14 until a few years ago, as did some US states.
It's 18 in New York State.
I know this because one of my friends (age 19 at the time), around four or five years back got sent to PRISON after his 17-year-old girlfriend broke up with him and told the cops. He just got out a couple months ago.
I was also walking on eggshells myself for a couple of years, but that's another story entirely...

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Abraham spalding wrote:First off the martyr/victim routine is old and worn out. Stop it.I disagree. Any opportunity to link to a picture of the Waaaaaambulance is totally sweet.
Yes. Also, linked for you.

Spanky the Leprechaun |

Who wants to hear about my mysophiliac half orc infernal being p.c.? He's a mature adult, but he's locked in the body of an elderly chimpanzee.
In fact, all my p.c.'s are mysophiliacs and based on elderly chimpanzees. But they're not really elderly. They're middle aged.
They just did a little too much crystal meth is all.
They like wearing skintight vinyl, gimp masks, and clogs.
I love clogs.
I love the smell of a new pair of clogs, painted with water sealant, and waiting to acquire the funk of toe jam.
And I love to rub

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Who wants to hear about my mysophiliac half orc infernal being p.c.? He's a mature adult, but he's locked in the body of an elderly chimpanzee.
In fact, all my p.c.'s are mysophiliacs and based on elderly chimpanzees. But they're not really elderly. They're middle aged.
They just did a little too much crystal meth is all.They like wearing skintight vinyl, gimp masks, and clogs.
I love clogs.
I love the smell of a new pair of clogs, painted with water sealant, and waiting to acquire the funk of toe jam.And I love to rub
No. Just no.

Shuriken Nekogami |

Shuriken Nekogami wrote:and just because i heavily like Disgaea, Touhou, Rozen Maiden, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Strike Witches doesn't mean I'm a pedophile. heck, i don't even FAP to any of them.You dont't develop familial adenomatous polyposis to them?
no, i meant that i don't Onananize to them. i guess i should have used this synonym instead of the former.
they are off limits to Onanisms. i like my women around the 18-24 range. between a B and a C cup. either asian, or caucasian brunette. glasses are optional, but a plus. a geek with a love for cosplay is a bonus. bonus points if she looks good cosplaying in either a labcoat, a japanese sailor schoolgirl uniform, a kimono or a gothloli dress.

Spanky the Leprechaun |

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:No. Just no.Who wants to hear about my mysophiliac half orc infernal being p.c.? He's a mature adult, but he's locked in the body of an elderly chimpanzee.
In fact, all my p.c.'s are mysophiliacs and based on elderly chimpanzees. But they're not really elderly. They're middle aged.
They just did a little too much crystal meth is all.They like wearing skintight vinyl, gimp masks, and clogs.
I love clogs.
I love the smell of a new pair of clogs, painted with water sealant, and waiting to acquire the funk of toe jam.And I love to rub
Aw, man. Quit misunderstanding me. Prude.
If I do it it's pervy, if you do it it's "kinky."What ev's.

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Mothman wrote:Shuriken Nekogami wrote:and just because i heavily like Disgaea, Touhou, Rozen Maiden, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Strike Witches doesn't mean I'm a pedophile. heck, i don't even FAP to any of them.You dont't develop familial adenomatous polyposis to them?no, i meant that i don't Onananize to them. i guess i should have used this synonym instead of the former.
they are off limits to Onanisms. i like my women around the 18-24 range. between a B and a C cup. either asian, or caucasian brunette. glasses are optional, but a plus. a geek with a love for cosplay is a bonus. bonus points if she looks good cosplaying in either a labcoat, a japanese sailor schoolgirl uniform, a kimono or a gothloli dress.
I knew what you meant dude, I was just trying to be funny.
Also, I know you are trying to underline the point that you do not undertake or contemplate illegal actions. Got it, point taken. You’ve stated this clearly several times, and if people haven’t backed off on this point they should.
But telling us what you do and don’t jack off to is one of the ‘creepy’ examples that people are getting at. I don’t want to tell you how you live your life, and I don’t think that at least some of the stuff you are into is wrong or even that unusual. I don’t think that being into non mainstream or quite specialised stuff sexually is in itself a bad thing. But telling everyone about it in a public forum dedicated to gaming is what comes across as creepy. Continuously exploring that in an online roleplaying game with essentially strangers comes across as creepy.
I’m sorry if I prompted you into saying more than you should have, I was just trying to add some levity to a thread which was going into some pretty dark places.

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I’m sorry if I prompted you into saying more than you should have, I was just trying to add some levity to a thread which was going into some pretty dark places.
And that's the thing. These posting habits have a nasty tendency to make threads spiral into dark places where most posters do not want to go. Some for very personal reasons.
And honestly, a modicum of restraint never hurt anyone.* I don't interject my preference for scurvy women into every thread I participate in for example, tempting though it may be sometimes.
*Just ask any couple involved in BDSM. rimshot

Spanky the Leprechaun |

And honestly, a modicum of restraint never hurt anyone.* I don't interject my preference for scurvy women into every thread I participate in for example, tempting though it may be sometimes.*Just ask any couple involved in BDSM. rimshot
wu....wu kinda scurvy women? ones with buttermilk poured on them?

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Mikaze wrote:wu....wu kinda scurvy women? ones with buttermilk poured on them?
And honestly, a modicum of restraint never hurt anyone.* I don't interject my preference for scurvy women into every thread I participate in for example, tempting though it may be sometimes.*Just ask any couple involved in BDSM. rimshot
That's between me, God, and my backissues of El Cazador.

Power Word Unzip |

And honestly, a modicum of restraint never hurt anyone.* I don't interject my preference for scurvy women into every thread I participate in for example, tempting though it may be sometimes.*Just ask any couple involved in BDSM. rimshot
Thanks for the late night rofl. If I'd been drinking anything, my monitor would now be wearing it. =]

Samnell |

no, i meant that i don't Onananize to them. i guess i should have used this synonym instead of the former.
I don't think I've ever seen onanism turned into a verb before, but I approve. It sounds like a piece of exercise equipment Chuck Norris wants to sell you at three AM: "I couldn't do my roundhouse kicks without the Onanizer! I Onanize for twenty minutes ever day."
If you want to be a bit obscure, you could also "frustrate your purpose". That was arch-prude Noah Webster's preferred bowdlerization, included in his rendering of the Bible for other exceptionally prudish sorts like himself.
Someone should start a thread for onanistic euphemisms. I bet there are some really good ones I don't know yet. Perhaps for more diversity the subject could be any sexual euphemism, the more unusual and potentially innocuous the better. Wit beyond measure, Ms. Rowling informs us, is man's greatest treasure. Personally I think that would be hard on the hips.