And again *sigh* Golarion has advanced firearms. If you don't want them in your world fine, if you don't want longswords in your world you can do that too. Just saying 'if you don't like it don't use it' is just admitting that a problem exists and not wanting to talk about rationally. I think (after running 3) that the Summoner is kinda broken too (2 characters in 1), just refusing to talk about it is silly.
Just because the guidelines on emerging guns says that advanced firearms may exist in such campaigns, does not mean that every emerging guns campaign has advanced firearms.
No one should count on advanced guns appearing in an Adventure Path, adventure, companion or PFS adventure ever, unless it details one of the more exotic regions of that world (Numeria comes to mind).
What you do in your own version of Golarion or in your own home campaign is your own business. If you want advanced firearms, go ahead, but it will drastically change a campaign from the baseline assumptions of the Pathfinder RPG.
But hey, so do walking scorpion creatures with machine guns and tail-mounted energy weapons. Just saying.
All that said, no one is refusing to talk about these things...in fact there has been a lot of talk about these things. Also, I wouldn't categorize the discussion here as overly rational. There has been a lot of high spirits, some name calling, and more hyperbole than a middle school debate club.
Ross has had to delete some posts. Things are getting heated and testy again. I'm shutting down this thread. I think we have treaded over the same ground long enough. Thanks to everyone who did their best to keep it civil (including Overdark). I really appreciate it.
Oh, and Overdark (or anyone else), please don't resurrect the thread again. We are done. Thank you.