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I have begun playing The Age of Worms adventure path over half a year ago with my group, and they have progressed marvelously. I have converted every single character and monster in the adventure books to Pathfinder, making most of the creatures much more powerful and dangerous, which my group didn't mind at all. Actually, they loved a bigger challenge. What i am trying to get advice on, i that after converting dragotha, i was left with a pale shadow of the mighty dracolich from the 11th installment. Knowing how powerful my players are at this moment, they would simply go through him like through a Japanese paper wall. So, what should i do? Should i just use the 3.5 Dragotha and change the way power attack works, or beef up the converted version. PLus, the party is quite unorthodox: A wizard 10 Archmage 10 (my conversion, on conversions subforum), Bard 20 and an Anti-Paladin 20...and boy do they kick ass...but i want to seriously challenge them with this fight. Any advice?
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I'm not sure when you'll be running encounters with Dragotha, but Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Undead Revisited will be out in June and has the "ravener", which is Paizo's answer to the undead dragon...since the dracolich is WotC property.
If you can wait that long, I'd suggest picking up that book.
When converting Age of Worms to Pathfinder one of the things I noticed was that Dragons lost a lot of hit dice and CR. I had to advance all of the Dragons in Kings of the Rift to present an appropriate challenge to my PCs.
Looking at Dragotha, it going to be the same thing. Even with the Ravener template, which is interesting, a Red Wyrm Ravener (Dragotha was a Red Wyrm Dracolich) is a CR 22 with 27 HD. Dragotha was a CR 27, and had nearly 2.5x more Hp. Not to mention all his feats which don't exist anymore. He's going to take a lot of work.
Looking at the Ravener, the HD hit hurts a lot. My party in Kings of the Rift could probably take more than half of the sample Ravener's hp in one round. Also, they lose all their spell slots. 27 spell levels before recharging their Soul Ward? Dragotha could cast 270 spell levels! And it really only replenishes if hits you with it's breath weapon. That's 8 levels as a standard action every 1d4 rounds, if he's lucky! What does he do with his other 1d4-1 rounds? Get full-attacked?
OK, rant over. Ravener still has merits though. Give him an extra 10HD right of the bat (Cause all Dragons got nerfed). Raise his stats to match his 3.5 stats. Toughness to offset the d8 HD. Start him off with max Soul Ward. 74 spell levels might actually be enough. 9th level spells are nice. Appropriate magic gear. He might actually be dangerous.
I have begun playing The Age of Worms adventure path over half a year ago with my group, and they have progressed marvelously. I have converted every single character and monster in the adventure books to Pathfinder, making most of the creatures much more powerful and dangerous, which my group didn't mind at all. Actually, they loved a bigger challenge. What i am trying to get advice on, i that after converting dragotha, i was left with a pale shadow of the mighty dracolich from the 11th installment. Knowing how powerful my players are at this moment, they would simply go through him like through a Japanese paper wall. So, what should i do? Should i just use the 3.5 Dragotha and change the way power attack works, or beef up the converted version. PLus, the party is quite unorthodox: A wizard 10 Archmage 10 (my conversion, on conversions subforum), Bard 20 and an Anti-Paladin 20...and boy do they kick ass...but i want to seriously challenge them with this fight. Any advice?
I just converted him with similar stats to Pathfinder. I can get him to you if you want him.
If you don't mind posting your player's stats I can decide if I should send my version or not. Of course if you have no pity for your players I can just send my version.edit:I did have to use some 3.5 feats from the draconomicon.
I would do what wraithstrike is proposing. Simply convert only what needs to convert to Pathfinder, and keep the rest as 3.5. I'm currently running the Age of Worms as well using the Pathfinder RPG and I'm finding the conversions to be a breeze.
Also most of the tools and resources on d20pfsrd.com are super helpful!
Or, if you wanna stick with straight Pathfinder rules only, advance Dragotha to a Great Wyrm with the Ravener template and the Advanced Template. That should give him a CR of 25 which should prove more than a match for your group.
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Thanks for the advice, in the end i beefed him up with 15 additional hit dice and i used the grat wyrm from the bestiary I. I gave him more powerful magic items and feats from draconomicon and D&D. By round 2 he was a goner...It's not that he was weak, it's just that the party is monstrously powerful. They killed Kyuss in 3 rounds. And they only destroyed the engative energy device. Monsters. But they earned their power fair and square, and were very lucky with saves and sunder attempts. Anyway, age of worms was immensely fun, i even had them save sessarine as a side quest. Next weekend i am beginning to lead them in Savage Tide.
A question, does anybody have a pdf version of shackled city? I cannot find it anywhere, and, well my apartment burned down three years ago, and i lost most of my very extensive collection of d&d books. Thankfuly most of my other rpgs were still at my parent's house.
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A question, does anybody have a pdf version of shackled city? I cannot find it anywhere, and, well my apartment burned down three years ago, and i lost most of my very extensive collection of d&d books. Thankfuly most of my other rpgs were still at my parent's house.
Legal? No, but you can buy a new copy of the expanded hardback compilation for 29.99 from Paizo's store. (http://paizo.com/dungeon/products/books/v5748btpy7dx9)
They killed Kyuss in 3 rounds.
I know its a little off the thread's topic, but my players are about to meet Kyuss and I've been considering a PF conversion of him (the party is all PF classes). Did you do a PF conversion of Kyuss as well and if so, any chance I can get your stats for him? It would save me a great deal of work.