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John Napier 698 wrote:

It's because they heard it being tossed about on the streets and thought that saying it themselves would make them "cool." I heard a couple teenagers shouting it out on a public bus a couple years ago and restrained myself from giving them the look I reserve exclusively for morons.

Edit: Next time you hear that in the hallways, go up to the students and say "fnord." See if that gets a response. :)

Maybe they know of the greatest legacy of Ben Franklin's presidency!


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Freehold DM wrote:
no, not edition wars, I mean factionalism. Like people being stupid because someone likes the wrong clan or something.

Oh, I am lost then. MtG has 'tribal' themes, but I don't know what clan or factionalism means in the context of it or ttrpgs.

*Feeling like I am missing something obvious*


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In of the Denmark.

Drinking native brown ale, which is pretty decent.

Went on a rollercoaster.

Ate two sausages.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
no, not edition wars, I mean factionalism. Like people being stupid because someone likes the wrong clan or something.

Oh, I am lost then. MtG has 'tribal' themes, but I don't know what clan or factionalism means in the context of it or ttrpgs.

*Feeling like I am missing something obvious*

Yeah, I'm with you, TS. I made a joke about five rings, but if there is "tribalism" there, it's literally encouraged by the setting itself. That's pretty much all I've got. And I don't see how that relates to card games at all? Unless Lo5R is also a card game? Even so, it seems encouraging tribalism in a ttrpg based on a thing that encourages tribalism seems limited at best. So I'm confused, too.


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lisamarlene wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Well, while I've got a good rage on today, Graphing Calculators.

I know:
- A Chief Technical Architect at a Fortune 500 company
- An architect
- A contractor-turned-property-inspector
- A civil engineer
- A certified machinist
- A certified systems administrator

And not one of them has ever, in their entire careers, used a graphing calculator for their jobs.

And yet it's a required unit at Impus Major's school.

Why?

Because the graphing calculator companies need to generate a market somewhere, I'm sure.

(I could go massively off here, but I'm already bordering on the political, so I'll go rage on my own time...)

Don't get me started.

I rarely got less than an A in any subject in school. My one F was in Trig/Calc because I was not going to ask my dad for the money for the calculator for one stupid semester when we were living on dried beans and pasta. So I couldn't do the homework. I was just trying to guess.
And I was too ashamed to tell the teacher we couldn't afford it.

i am so sorry, lisamarlene. So sorry. That is monstrous.

There is very much a rich dad poor dad aspect to later levels of high school math, but I am not going to go into it here.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
no, not edition wars, I mean factionalism. Like people being stupid because someone likes the wrong clan or something.

Oh, I am lost then. MtG has 'tribal' themes, but I don't know what clan or factionalism means in the context of it or ttrpgs.

*Feeling like I am missing something obvious*

Yeah, I'm with you, TS. I made a joke about five rings, but if there is "tribalism" there, it's literally encouraged by the setting itself. That's pretty much all I've got. And I don't see how that relates to card games at all? Unless Lo5R is also a card game? Even so, it seems encouraging tribalism in a ttrpg based on a thing that encourages tribalism seems limited at best. So I'm confused, too.

l5r started as a card game.

With loosey goosey rules for what the winner could do to/with losing clans during tourneys.

Things got stupid after a while.

I am not looking to bring drama here, but...yeah.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

I am far from unsympathetic to any GM who GMs for difficult players, but I can see where Bacon Boy might have legitimately expected a different response and I would not call this rules lawyering. He told you he wants to research a custom spell, which is an act of creativity, and then asked you what level it would be.

To which you replied “Find me a rules precedent.” Which, I see why you might want that, but if anything that’s what I’d call rules lawyering – turning a creative process into a wild goose chase for a rule.

I didn't feel he was "rules lawyering", but yet again asking for too much and not taking no for an answer.

As to, "How bad could it be?", you obviously haven't met Hooken.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
no, not edition wars, I mean factionalism. Like people being stupid because someone likes the wrong clan or something.

Oh, I am lost then. MtG has 'tribal' themes, but I don't know what clan or factionalism means in the context of it or ttrpgs.

*Feeling like I am missing something obvious*

Yeah, I'm with you, TS. I made a joke about five rings, but if there is "tribalism" there, it's literally encouraged by the setting itself. That's pretty much all I've got. And I don't see how that relates to card games at all? Unless Lo5R is also a card game? Even so, it seems encouraging tribalism in a ttrpg based on a thing that encourages tribalism seems limited at best. So I'm confused, too.

I believe Legends Of The Five Rings did in fact start as a card game.


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Captain YesterAriel wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Oh, and just to shine some good news on this otherwise-angry day, I get to keep the duck.

And the pocketknife.

But I'm more excited about the duck.

CAN IT, Captain Yesternaughty!

But I had plans! For a smart phone powered dildo called the Periscoping Duck I thought you'd want to invest in!

shut up and take my money!


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Limeylongears wrote:

In of the Denmark.

Drinking native brown ale, which is pretty decent.

Went on a rollercoaster.

Ate two sausages.

*Sigh*

Yup, modern Denmark in a nutshell. Expensive fair-rides and expensive but decent food and drink...

Oh how we mighty have fallen, since the days of Danelaw...


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Scintillae wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:

It's because they heard it being tossed about on the streets and thought that saying it themselves would make them "cool." I heard a couple teenagers shouting it out on a public bus a couple years ago and restrained myself from giving them the look I reserve exclusively for morons.

Edit: Next time you hear that in the hallways, go up to the students and say "fnord." See if that gets a response. :)

Maybe they know of the greatest legacy of Ben Franklin's presidency!

considering his lecherous nature, nudity may indeed be his greatest legacy.


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Kjeldorn wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

In of the Denmark.

Drinking native brown ale, which is pretty decent.

Went on a rollercoaster.

Ate two sausages.

*Sigh*

Yup, modern Denmark in a nutshell. Expensive fair-rides and expensive but decent food and drink...

Oh how we mighty have fallen, since the days of Danelaw...

You can't have Yorkshire back!


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Nobody Told Me Is Was, "Remind NobodysHome Why He's Retiring From GMing Again" Week

Monday-Wednesday: Bacon Boy sent me an e-mail asking, "I'm thinking of a custom Greater TrueStrike spell. What level would it be?"

Greater TrueStrike wrote:
As TrueStrike, except if you successfully hit the hit is automatically a confirmed critical

I immediately responded, "11", hoping he'd take the hint.

Instead, I got the usual, "No, seriously. All I want is a spell that auto-crits. What level would that be?"
So I responded, "Show me a single example of a trait, feat, class ability, racial ability, or monster ability that auto-crits on any hit, and we can talk. You may use any source published by Paizo."
He got all huffy and offended and gave me the good old, "I was only asking!"

Considering that in my retirement e-mail I specifically said I was tired of arguing rules and rules lawyering with players, I don't know what else he expected.

I am far from unsympathetic to any GM who GMs for difficult players, but I can see where Bacon Boy might have legitimately expected a different response and I would not call this rules lawyering. He told you he wants to research a custom spell, which is an act of creativity, and then asked you what level it would be.

To which you replied “Find me a rules precedent.” Which, I see why you might want that, but if anything that’s what I’d call rules lawyering – turning a creative process into a wild goose chase for a rule.

** spoiler omitted **

Hmmm...

Said True-Crit spell and some sort of caster(disintegrate) build maybe...

*looks for his bucket of d6's*


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Freehold DM wrote:

l5r started as a card game.

With loosey goosey rules for what the winner could do to/with losing clans during tourneys.

Things got stupid after a while.

I am not looking to bring drama here, but...yeah.

If you'd like to spoiler it or PM me, I am curious.


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I'm so used to my Crimson Throne group being in here for gaming that it's almost surreal when they actually come to me in the capacity of my actual job that they pay me for.


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...even accounting for the fact that I made it so.

"Hi, Ms. Scint!"
"I'm not running a game with over half the group missing."
"Can we chill anyway? I don't have to work for like an hour..."
"Yeah, let's talk about your outlines."
".......yaaaaay. Hey can we do a campaign where we kill Tom Sawyer?"


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NobodysHome wrote:


I didn't feel he was "rules lawyering", but yet again asking for too much and not taking no for an answer.

Fair enough.

NobodysHome wrote:
As to, "How bad could it be?", you obviously haven't met Hooken.

...So you're afraid that your kid's ranger will cast true crit on a random hippo, thus leading to a self-inflicted TPK.

I can think of worse, but again, fair enough.


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I'm more amused than I should be that they've both found ways to talk about how terrible Tom is, even with completely different essay topics.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

l5r started as a card game.

With loosey goosey rules for what the winner could do to/with losing clans during tourneys.

Things got stupid after a while.

I am not looking to bring drama here, but...yeah.

If you'd like to spoiler it or PM me, I am curious.

Ditto that, Freehold. I never played L5R.


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:D Ah, children. :)


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Scintillae wrote:

...even accounting for the fact that I made it so.

"Hi, Ms. Scint!"
"I'm not running a game with over half the group missing."
"Can we chill anyway? I don't have to work for like an hour..."
"Yeah, let's talk about your outlines."
".......yaaaaay. Hey can we do a campaign where we kill Tom Sawyer?"

Please let there be a campaign where the BBEG is Rush

.


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I have had a week of mad fun. Whingey Wizzard was away in SoCal for most of the week but came home a day early because the wildfires were two miles from his campus and they closed it. Meanwhile His Lordship, our landlord/housemate, has been in Stuttgart for 2 weeks so I'm in charge of all his dogs and emergency home repairs. Our only administrative person at work is on personal leave this week so I am covering all of her duties as well as mine. And yet somehow I have not had a mad screaming breakdown nor have I killed anybody. But I still have four hours to go.


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lisamarlene wrote:
I have had a week of mad fun. Whingey Wizzard was away in SoCal for most of the week but came home a day early because the wildfires were two miles from his campus and they closed it. Meanwhile His Lordship, our landlord/housemate, has been in Stuttgart for 2 weeks so I'm in charge of all his dogs and emergency home repairs. Our only administrative person at work is on personal leave this week so I am covering all of her duties as well as mine. And yet somehow I have not had a mad screaming breakdown nor have I killed anybody. But I still have four hours to go.

I have a co-worker who REALLY needs a beat-down or killing today...


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Could one of you who are being informed inform me later, so Freehold doesn't have to write, like, five bajillion (actual scientific number) PMs about it?


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Kjeldorn wrote:

Hmmm...

Said True-Crit spell and some sort of caster(disintegrate) build maybe...

*looks for his bucket of d6's*

Maximized empowered true critting disintegration...

If only disintegrate were save for half.


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Hm. I wonder if I could work in a Tom Sawyer-based NPC for Crimson Throne.

Spoiler:
Maybe connected to the Cinderlander...


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I am having a lot of fun with strange aeons. Jumping on beds was more successful than flipping tables. in character


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Only ever play the L5R rpg.
Like it well enough.


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lisamarlene wrote:
I have had a week of mad fun. Whingey Wizzard was away in SoCal for most of the week but came home a day early because the wildfires were two miles from his campus and they closed it. Meanwhile His Lordship, our landlord/housemate, has been in Stuttgart for 2 weeks so I'm in charge of all his dogs and emergency home repairs. Our only administrative person at work is on personal leave this week so I am covering all of her duties as well as mine. And yet somehow I have not had a mad screaming breakdown nor have I killed anybody. But I still have four hours to go.

Do you mean UCLA because I went there. I spent too much time in the library on theese boards rather than career development though.


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Grumble grumble work grumble grumble.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Grumble grumble work grumble grumble.

LOL. I have the opposite problem. All our servers just went down. So I'm at work with absolutely, positively nothing to do.

I'm giving 'em 20 more minutes and then considering it an early day.


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NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Grumble grumble work grumble grumble.

LOL. I have the opposite problem. All our servers just went down. So I'm at work with absolutely, positively nothing to do.

I'm giving 'em 20 more minutes and then considering it an early day.

Even dns or are you using external ;p


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doctor_wu wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Grumble grumble work grumble grumble.

LOL. I have the opposite problem. All our servers just went down. So I'm at work with absolutely, positively nothing to do.

I'm giving 'em 20 more minutes and then considering it an early day.
Even dns or are you using external ;p

Long story short: Just like everyone else, our company went over to the magical, wonderful "Cloud". So while I used to install, configure, and maintain all our application servers locally, we now have a team that does it "somewhere on the Cloud".

And in spite of the fact that we have about 200 people testing this week, they decided to bring down "the Cloud" at 3:00 pm sharp today.

So yep, got no work. Listening to rah-rah videos from VPs.

Dark Archive

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Limeylongears wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

...even accounting for the fact that I made it so.

"Hi, Ms. Scint!"
"I'm not running a game with over half the group missing."
"Can we chill anyway? I don't have to work for like an hour..."
"Yeah, let's talk about your outlines."
".......yaaaaay. Hey can we do a campaign where we kill Tom Sawyer?"

Please let there be a campaign where the BBEG is Rush

.

If someone makes this, please inform me so I can run it at some point to annoy my dad :D


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Oh, and in case anyone's wondering, I definitely learned many things last night, but in particular I learned why I have never even considered a job as a professional chef/cook/sous-chef:
(1) I showed up at the appointed time and started dicing parsnips and sweet potatoes. No one gave us any indication as to how big the pieces should be. So I cut them the way I would cook them: Roughly 1/2" cubes.
(2) After I'd done about 25-30 pounds, a woman came over and said, "Oh, those are way too small!", brought over the cook in charge, and he said, "Yes! Cut them bigger!"
(3) I started cutting 1" cubes. And of course, "These are way too big! Now we're going to have to go back through all of them and cutting them smaller! What's wrong with you?"

Er... maybe that you didn't give me a "canonical piece" to start with?

And, after 2 1/2 hours of cutting root vegetables, your hands and wrists get sore. Not too bad; I could have kept going. But you notice. And of course all my cuts from replacing the sump pump turned into blisters. Fun!

Then I had to wash off the mushrooms, and apparently I was crap at that as well.

So yeah, I make tasty food that everyone loves, but apparently I'm a klutz in the kitchen who can't do anything right once a "chef" is involved.

So today I'm wearing flying pig pants. Because.


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doctor_wu wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
I have had a week of mad fun. Whingey Wizzard was away in SoCal for most of the week but came home a day early because the wildfires were two miles from his campus and they closed it. Meanwhile His Lordship, our landlord/housemate, has been in Stuttgart for 2 weeks so I'm in charge of all his dogs and emergency home repairs. Our only administrative person at work is on personal leave this week so I am covering all of her duties as well as mine. And yet somehow I have not had a mad screaming breakdown nor have I killed anybody. But I still have four hours to go.
Do you mean UCLA because I went there. I spent too much time in the library on theese boards rather than career development though.

No, he teaches at a small graduate school in the Santa Barbara area. His field is Psychology and Somatics.


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EDIT: dang it, ninja-lisamarlene!

NH.

I have something serious to talk to you about.

It's about your cooking.

I know it's uncomfortable, but it needs to be said.

What I'm saying is that I am very judgmental, and believe everything an "expert" says, and so probably hold the same opinion; thus you should come over here and prove me wrong.

...

...

... daily.

>.>

*cough*


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lisamarlene wrote:
I have had a week of mad fun. Whingey Wizzard was away in SoCal for most of the week but came home a day early because the wildfires were two miles from his campus and they closed it. Meanwhile His Lordship, our landlord/housemate, has been in Stuttgart for 2 weeks so I'm in charge of all his dogs and emergency home repairs. Our only administrative person at work is on personal leave this week so I am covering all of her duties as well as mine. And yet somehow I have not had a mad screaming breakdown nor have I killed anybody. But I still have four hours to go.

calls abscondi-cave masseuse, informs him he will be working overtime, has chocolates prepared


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"Excuse me sir, do you have any hoverboards?" - asked the middle age Amish lady.

I was not expecting that.

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I'd have asked how big the stuff is to be cut... Well after the last time I thought I was supposed to slice the carrot turned out to be actually cube the carrots... Ah don't @ssume,it makes an @ss out of you and me.

Besides my aunts party beehoon requires the carrots to be in strips instead so... And yeah and my brother chopped the green peppers too small(wheres the texture!) while I wasn't looking so yes don't @ssume.

Oh I'm not good at actually chopping up stuff and I know it so I always ask people how they want things chopped and how big. I can't really get even cuts(unless they are fairly thick) so to speak.

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About GM stories.

Yes I ever kicked someone out of my game for arguing with me too much. She had a flying animal companion without ranks in fly(probably couldn't be bothered to), complained when I tripped her said flying companion since I always autobotted it landing on before it attacked to save on the fly skill checks and to let it full attack without needing to make fly checks. And got complained off.

Next she claimed that her summons could go to the town to pick up supplies, when summon monster clearly states they cannot use their summons or teleportation abilities. If you want to planar binding/planar ally, by all means go ahead. But not out of a summon spell.

Basically some players just want you to do everything in their favor. I don't roll that way, I'm strictly lawful neutral. If a rule says you can, you can. If no rules say you can, you can't.

I expect you to know the rules concerning your character and animal companions/familiars before you use it.

I believe I'm harsher then NH on my players.

Yes, NH, I feel for you. Being a GM is tough work.


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No snow yet. >:-(

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Surprisingly the group that I GMed from 1-12 for PFS found me a cool and easy going GM. Because I don't give a fk with a halfling tetori monk grapples a huge dragon as long as you beat the cmd.

I think of it as the wu xi finger hold

So basically in my games you can do whatever as long as it's supported by the rules. Follow the rules, and we'll get along fine.

And I don't do weird houserules or whatsoever. Just bring on the cheese, murderhobo everything(because that's what PFS is) and we can all go home early.


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Just a Mort wrote:
She had a flying animal companion without ranks in fly(probably couldn't be bothered to), complained when I tripped her said flying companion since I always autobotted it landing on before it attacked to save on the fly skill checks and to let it full attack without needing to make fly checks. And got complained off.

Man. You make ME look non-lawful.

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It's all about equity. If you want something - you should put in something in returns. Yes I can be very anal.


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For me it's apathy. I can't be bothered to roll stuff like that every round and I can't be bothered to make my players do it. It's the same reason I don't track ammunition or commonplace spell components and I tend to be very loose on handling encumbrance. I just don't care.


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NobodysHome wrote:

So today I'm wearing flying pig pants. Because.

But...flying pigs don't exist. Therefore, the pants... my word. How indecent.


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F+!& layaways.


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Orthos wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
She had a flying animal companion without ranks in fly(probably couldn't be bothered to), complained when I tripped her said flying companion since I always autobotted it landing on before it attacked to save on the fly skill checks and to let it full attack without needing to make fly checks. And got complained off.
Man. You make ME look non-lawful.

... what?

Orthos is so lawful he makes my teeth hurt. And I'm not even anywhere near him.


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Orthos wrote:
For me it's apathy. I can't be bothered to roll stuff like that every round and I can't be bothered to make my players do it. It's the same reason I don't track ammunition or commonplace spell components and I tend to be very loose on handling encumbrance. I just don't care.

tracking ammo and spell components did not bring as much to the game as I thought it would.

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