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Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
I've never considered myself a part of GenX, even though I was born in 74. I just can't get into what is ostensibly my generation's "culture". I never really understood the appeal.
This is kinda how I've always felt about the Millennial label. I'm in the right age range, but I've never really felt attached to most of what that group seems to be defined by.
I dunno, the ennui, vague hopelessness borne of dreams snuffed out during the recession before our careers ever had a chance to begin, and the growing realization that the world is, in many ways, careening down a slip-and-slide of surreal horror is kind of a mood.

F%!~, when you're right you're right....


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.... no. Just no. This is not a clothes-optional discussion.


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I have legitimately never understood that stupid rule.


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So, I think this says a lot about me: The wind around here caused power lines to drop across the freeway, shutting down 880 in both directions for just over 90 minutes while we were on our way to Shiro's.

So yes, we were some of the first people out of our car and hanging around, and then I started socializing with all the people around me. And it wasn't until this evening that I realized that getting out of your car in the middle of a stopped freeway and cheerfully socializing with all the other stopped people probably isn't something most people do.

But geez, talking to everyone sure made the time go faster.


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lisamarlene wrote:
I've never considered myself a part of GenX, even though I was born in 74. I just can't get into what is ostensibly my generation's "culture". I never really understood the appeal.
Orthos wrote:
This is kinda how I've always felt about the Millennial label. I'm in the right age range, but I've never really felt attached to most of what that group seems to be defined by.
Scintillae wrote:
I dunno, the ennui, vague hopelessness borne of dreams snuffed out during the recession before our careers ever had a chance to begin, and the growing realization that the world is, in many ways, careening down a slip-and-slide of surreal horror is kind of a mood.

And yet, I really don't think this is all that different than most generations.

Generation whatever had to deal with the threat of their world ending by recession and abject poverty. This gave rise to despair and exhaustion.

Generation the next one had to deal with the threat of the world ending by war. This gave rise to a deep seated weariness and bitterness.

Generation the one after had to deal with the threat of the world ending by nuclear proliferation. This gave rise to a deep seated despair and rebelliousness.

The world is always careening down a slip-and-slide of surreal horror - and it's always also got its upside. Millennials being angry, having that ennui, vague hopelessness, etc. isn't unique to them: pretty much each generation before went through some variant of it. This is one of the reasons that Millennials got so much flak from the 'Boomers in the first place (again, erasing GenX, 'cause we they? don't really fit this mold as well) is because the whole "we're bored and the world is doomed" feels kind of goth-like in its empty rhetoric to those who've already gone through it.

The specific concerns are, of course, unique, as is the time and the surrounding elements. This is why the Baby Boomers feel so out of touch with the concerns of the Millennials - because they are. "We made it through our problems, why can't you make it through yours" is absolutely dismissive, and really fails to understand both the reality of the situation they passed through and the reality of the situation facing our future.

Basically, I don't really think the attitude broadly espoused by either is correct - or, more accurately, some truths can be taken from both sides. Whether you let the despair hold you, or not is up to you. The point is to do what you need to, no matter what. And, generally, Millennials have been doing that, despite vocal 'Boomer attitudes (which, interestingly seems to actually be listening to and paying attention to the Millennial complaints... without actually watching or paying attention to their actions and "real" situation).

I'unno. Everything is awesome, because win or lose, you guys are my friends and life rocks.

Scintillae wrote:
I have legitimately never understood that stupid rule.

It's meant as a joke to be silly and to prevent FaWtL from devolving into a pages-long depths of despair and/or deep-seated heated discussion because it's hard to take yourself (or anyone else) too seriously when something ludicrous like clothing vanishes. The inconvenience of the rule interrupting serious conversation is actually its purpose - by causing the poster to acknowledge the rule (and its silliness) it breaks up what would otherwise be a consistent flow of passionate (and thus Dangerous for Internet/FaWtL tone) discussion, thereby helping ensure FaWtL remains more of a light-hearted place to relax and be silly with friends than a serious place to meditate on the ills of the world (which is what other threads are ostensibly for).

It doesn't prevent such meditations, of course, but that's it's purpose. And, yeah, it works. It's just goofy enough that it forces a break and acknowledgement. And that's a genuinely good thing.

EDIT: It's not that I've never felt frustration or irritation with the rule, myself. I'm not suggesting that feeling annoyed is wrong; rather the rule has a purpose, and that purpose is strongly important. Even when it is irritating, it actively functions along its own purposes - preventing FaWtL from becoming too serious.


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So! On to more depressing news: DBZA is over.

EDIT: for clarity, despite the glib introduction, this is serious, not a joke. These guys are sad and frustrated by this announcement. It's a hard one.

Short Version:

1) burnout don't want to suck; it feels like it would

2) copyright strikes channel could be eliminated; folks' livelihoods rely on it not doing that

3) they plan on other projects, notably original projects

4) they are bad at communications and apologize


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Um, yeah......


NobodysHome wrote:

Um, yeah......

O.o


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Complete and utter insanity.


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I won't kill Rocko.

I might kill Rocko.

Rocko will die.

Accidentally.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I won't kill Rocko.

I might kill Rocko.

Rocko will die.

Accidentally.

"Accidentally", got it. Like maybes hes was out doin' a bit of ice fishin', and oops! his shack gets run over by a horde of drunken hamsters on tiny snowmobiles. This I can do for you, since it is the day of my daughter's wedding.


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Woran wrote:

Thanks to the storm we have today, another beautifull dutch tradition was able to take place. The national championship cycling against the wind

Article in dutch but it has a movie

Another video, lots of dutch talk so Freehold can enjoy

We've had the storm all over us here; part of the bottom of town was underwater yesterday after the river burst its banks, but it looks to have cleared by now, since the traffic's running (luckily, I live well uphill).

Hope DSXMachina's alright, since they got hit hard in other areas as well...


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I told Rocko who was boss.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I told Rocko who was boss.

Is it Mr. Smitty?

(That was Rocko's boss in Rocko's Modern Life.)


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Hello, everyone!

The garage has water.
Finished Hook Mountain Massacre. One of the party members can single-round kill a Stone Giant. By himself.

Scarab Sages

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John Napier 698 wrote:

Hello, everyone!

The garage has water.
Finished Hook Mountain Massacre. One of the party members can single-round kill a Stone Giant. By himself.

Glad to hear the water is back.


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Limeylongears wrote:
Woran wrote:

Thanks to the storm we have today, another beautifull dutch tradition was able to take place. The national championship cycling against the wind

Article in dutch but it has a movie

Another video, lots of dutch talk so Freehold can enjoy

We've had the storm all over us here; part of the bottom of town was underwater yesterday after the river burst its banks, but it looks to have cleared by now, since the traffic's running (luckily, I live well uphill).

Hope DSXMachina's alright, since they got hit hard in other areas as well...

Despite being a Spa town there's not too much flooding, although a friend has 3 inches of water under the floor of his new house. Just glad I don't live in York.


gran rey de los mono wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I told Rocko who was boss.

Is it Mr. Smitty?

(That was Rocko's boss in Rocko's Modern Life.)

Talk about deep cuts into childhood lore I'd rather forget... XD


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Hello, everyone!

Hello!

John Napier 698 wrote:
The garage has water.

Hurray!

John Napier 698 wrote:
Finished Hook Mountain Massacre. One of the party members can single-round kill a Stone Giant. By himself.

Hurray! Again!


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Tacticslion wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I told Rocko who was boss.

Is it Mr. Smitty?

(That was Rocko's boss in Rocko's Modern Life.)

Talk about deep cuts into childhood lore I'd rather forget... XD

I never watched it, personally. But I knew it existed, and Wikipedia knew the rest.


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Tacticslion wrote:

So! On to more depressing news: DBZA is over.

EDIT: for clarity, despite the glib introduction, this is serious, not a joke. These guys are sad and frustrated by this announcement. It's a hard one.

** spoiler omitted **

I remember when they made the announcement that it was on hiatus for Dragon Shortz.

My thing is: you made it to Buu. You can't crank one last saga out?


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Windy night and windy day.

*yawn*

Scarab Sages

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Drejk wrote:

Windy night and windy day.

*yawn*

At least the wind doesnt give me a headache.

Scarab Sages

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I'm leaving for this larp op wednesday.

I'll be back on sunday.

Its going to be amazing and I'm nervous as f*ck.


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Woran wrote:
Drejk wrote:

Windy night and windy day.

*yawn*

At least the wind doesnt give me a headache.

Lucky you :(


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This morning should be "interesting".

As I mentioned, AT&T put "No Parking" signs all up and down the street last week... except for a HUGE gap right by our house (3 houses on each side when there's a sign in front of every house on the rest of the block)... which also happens to be a cluster of non-AT&T customers.

So, four possibilities:
(1) The houses really are exempt. I'd be skeptical of this except for the perfect symmetry of the skippage: The signs are fairly regularly placed on both sides of the street, stop at the same point, skip the same 3-house stretch, and then resume. If you didn't make that gap intentionally, then you really done messed up.

(2) There will be a polite knock at my door asking me to kindly move my car. This is how the city of Albany typically works, and if it were city employees or police I would expect it. Since it's AT&T, I suspect they won't even dream of actually *gasp* communicating with the residents.

(3) They'll try to ticket/tow my car without bothering to contact me. I'd kind of enjoy this, because I could nail them to the wall for it. On the other hand, it takes time to raise a stink, so I'd prefer the polite knock.

(4) They'll just work around the cars. Miraculously, this is what most companies do. I'd expect at least a note on my windshield saying, "Please move your car so we can work here tomorrow," but I've seen cars sitting all week in No Parking Construction zones and watched the workers meticulously work their way around them. (There's even a big (2' diameter) sinkhole in front of one person's house because they never moved their car during the sewer or repaving work.)

Anyway, yeah, I could just move my car and be done with it, but when you give me no formal notification (for all other work we received physical letters AND flyers), you don't bother to put the signs in front of my house, AND you leave a huge gap around my house, I'm just going to be intentionally ornery at you.


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They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.


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captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Tickets like that always go to the top of my to-do list.


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captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

If your co-workers are breaking the equipment, hand them shovels.


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If you ever needed to understand why I despise social media platforms, the way our company uses Slack is a prime example: We have a channel where sales reps can ask technical questions. The idea is that when you have time, you check on the channel and answer their questions.

Except SOME idiot started his very first post with, "Hi, @channel!" when sends EVERYONE ON THE LIST (around 800 people) a pop-up notification, an email, and an urgent flashing in their taskbar that Slack has a message that needs your attention.

So now EVERYONE does it. In spite of multiple requests for them to stop.

And it's true of EVERY channel our company uses: People start all of their posts with, "Hi, @channel!" and you have to disable all notifications just to avoid being inundated with nonsense.

As GothBard watched in horror when I turned notifications on and showed her just how bad it was, she gasped, "That's NOT how you use Slack!"

Well, it's how *MY* company uses Slack, which is why I hate social media in general: The bigger the platform, the greater the idiocy.


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OK, there's, "Your signs are unclear and stop 80 feet away from my house so I'm not moving unless you ask me to," and there's, "Yeah, not gonna do it."

There are at least 8 cars parked in the clearly-marked No Parking construction zone, so it's going to be quite a while before my cars are in any danger of being the worst offenders.


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NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Tickets like that always go to the top of my to-do list.

If I could get tickets like that I wouldn't hate my job.


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NobodysHome wrote:

If you ever needed to understand why I despise social media platforms, the way our company uses Slack is a prime example: We have a channel where sales reps can ask technical questions. The idea is that when you have time, you check on the channel and answer their questions.

Except SOME idiot started his very first post with, "Hi, @channel!" when sends EVERYONE ON THE LIST (around 800 people) a pop-up notification, an email, and an urgent flashing in their taskbar that Slack has a message that needs your attention.

So now EVERYONE does it. In spite of multiple requests for them to stop.

And it's true of EVERY channel our company uses: People start all of their posts with, "Hi, @channel!" and you have to disable all notifications just to avoid being inundated with nonsense.

As GothBard watched in horror when I turned notifications on and showed her just how bad it was, she gasped, "That's NOT how you use Slack!"

Well, it's how *MY* company uses Slack, which is why I hate social media in general: The bigger the platform, the greater the idiocy.

These are the same defective users who hit Reply All to company-wide email announcements and other mass emails that specifically state in bold red font NOT to hit Reply All.


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

If you ever needed to understand why I despise social media platforms, the way our company uses Slack is a prime example: We have a channel where sales reps can ask technical questions. The idea is that when you have time, you check on the channel and answer their questions.

Except SOME idiot started his very first post with, "Hi, @channel!" when sends EVERYONE ON THE LIST (around 800 people) a pop-up notification, an email, and an urgent flashing in their taskbar that Slack has a message that needs your attention.

So now EVERYONE does it. In spite of multiple requests for them to stop.

And it's true of EVERY channel our company uses: People start all of their posts with, "Hi, @channel!" and you have to disable all notifications just to avoid being inundated with nonsense.

As GothBard watched in horror when I turned notifications on and showed her just how bad it was, she gasped, "That's NOT how you use Slack!"

Well, it's how *MY* company uses Slack, which is why I hate social media in general: The bigger the platform, the greater the idiocy.

These are the same defective users who hit Reply All to company-wide email announcements and other mass emails that specifically state in bold red font NOT to hit Reply All.

I've always wanted to implement a system whereby every Reply All deemed inappropriate by IT would fine the user $1 per extra recipient.

"You replied 'Me Too' to 187 recipients. We're deducting $186 from your next paycheck. Have a nice day!"


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NobodysHome wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

If you ever needed to understand why I despise social media platforms, the way our company uses Slack is a prime example: We have a channel where sales reps can ask technical questions. The idea is that when you have time, you check on the channel and answer their questions.

Except SOME idiot started his very first post with, "Hi, @channel!" when sends EVERYONE ON THE LIST (around 800 people) a pop-up notification, an email, and an urgent flashing in their taskbar that Slack has a message that needs your attention.

So now EVERYONE does it. In spite of multiple requests for them to stop.

And it's true of EVERY channel our company uses: People start all of their posts with, "Hi, @channel!" and you have to disable all notifications just to avoid being inundated with nonsense.

As GothBard watched in horror when I turned notifications on and showed her just how bad it was, she gasped, "That's NOT how you use Slack!"

Well, it's how *MY* company uses Slack, which is why I hate social media in general: The bigger the platform, the greater the idiocy.

These are the same defective users who hit Reply All to company-wide email announcements and other mass emails that specifically state in bold red font NOT to hit Reply All.

I've always wanted to implement a system whereby every Reply All deemed inappropriate by IT would fine the user $1 per extra recipient.

Me, too! Stealth: 1d20 ⇒ 11 scampers off


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Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Tickets like that always go to the top of my to-do list.
If I could get tickets like that I wouldn't hate my job.

"Computer displays persistent black screen. Examining the wall reveals a miniature cobra has been expelled from its home in the wall mid-meal as bite marks remain. Cannot approach due to ophidiophobia; do not wish to be bitten, and the snake has already attached itself to the computer tower. URGENT."

Grand Lodge

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Pool drain and clean is almost done. Water is about five inches below where it needs to be. Hopefully it’s ready by the time my pool guy gets there.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

If your co-workers are breaking the equipment, hand them shovels.

No one broke it, it just broke.

And some background, I used to work with both summer co-worker and the mechanic at a different place where my first day I broke a shovel and summer co-worker didn't want me to get in trouble with the equipment manager, so he said "just tell them I broke it!".

Fifteen years later, I'm still telling the mechanic summer co-worker broke it.


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Wow, you guys make 'everyday life' SO much more interesting than I do! :)

When 'the other company' came through installing their internet/video system in the neighborhood (OK, it was AT&T) they were supposed to install it into the neutral ground between the sidewalk and the street. EXCEPT that the neutral ground was ALREADY full, with both COX and LUS (local city/state company) lines.

So what did AT&T do? Did they go to take extra time and caution so that they could fit into the neutral ground as well?

Nope. They hired some ham-handed trench-diggers of doom to install the lines RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR FRIGGIN' YARDS.
MY yard. Of which I own ALL the rights. Mineral, etc. Destroyed one neighbors, driveway, etc,
AND their 'towers' are enormously hugemongous. And Obnoxious, like 3' tall.
(LUS is installed under a flat plate, and Cox is maybe a foot tall)
And where both Cox & LUS installed a junction maybe once every 10-12 houses, AT&T installed one EVERY. THREE. HOUSES.
O_o

And they didn't even do a good job. They changed the shape and slope of my yard so that now I get MORE water draining TOWARDS My front door, instead of towards the street where it belongs. :(

I REALLY want to go and raise a stink, maybe a class-action lawsuit, and force them to Re-do EVERYTHING in the entire neighborhood. I'm pretty sire it wouldn't be that difficult, but I just dont have time to spearhead that kind of project myself. :P

So, I just cheer when my neighbor (with the destroyed driveway) just happens to 'accidentally' run over the tower installed in their yard, and forced AT&T to come back and replace it with a in-ground box/plate. (Ah hah! so you COULD have done that too!)
>_<


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captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Sounds legit.


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I think my favorite-ever Reply All story was when I was asking a very specific question for which only I would be interested in the answer, so I BCC'ed the group list just to avoid any Reply Alls, and someone actually MANUALLY RE-ADDED THE ENTIRE GROUP to their response of, "I don't understand why you're asking that question."

Then 36 responses of, "It's a legitimate question."

Then half a dozen, "Please stop Replying All".

To an original question where Reply All had been disabled to the best of my ability.

SOOOOOOO annoying.

EDIT: The best was a contact I know who's on the list, who sent me a private note of, "I see what you tried there, and you should know that the Reply Allers cannot be denied..."


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captain yesterday wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

If your co-workers are breaking the equipment, hand them shovels.

No one broke it, it just broke.

And some background, I used to work with both summer co-worker and the mechanic at a different place where my first day I broke a shovel and summer co-worker didn't want me to get in trouble with the equipment manager, so he said "just tell them I broke it!".

Fifteen years later, I'm still telling the mechanic summer co-worker broke it.

Okay. Sorry about the misunderstanding.


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Drejk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Sounds legit.

Summer co-worker's response was "international witch doctor cabals is one of the groups that sent me a friend request on Facebook!" (He recently downloaded the Facebook app to get in touch with his dad and immediately regretted it).


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John Napier 698 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

If your co-workers are breaking the equipment, hand them shovels.

No one broke it, it just broke.

And some background, I used to work with both summer co-worker and the mechanic at a different place where my first day I broke a shovel and summer co-worker didn't want me to get in trouble with the equipment manager, so he said "just tell them I broke it!".

Fifteen years later, I'm still telling the mechanic summer co-worker broke it.

Okay. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

No need to be sorry, you're good, John.

It was a perfectly reasonable response. :-)


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Scintillae wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

They might regret giving me maintenance tags for broken down tools.

"The rotor doesn't work on this snowblower, I suspect summer co-worker is funding an international cabal of witch doctors in order to sabotage it. Further investigation is needed" - What I wrote on the tag for my broken snowblower.

Tickets like that always go to the top of my to-do list.
If I could get tickets like that I wouldn't hate my job.
"Computer displays persistent black screen. Examining the wall reveals a miniature cobra has been expelled from its home in the wall mid-meal as bite marks remain. Cannot approach due to ophidiophobia; do not wish to be bitten, and the snake has already attached itself to the computer tower. URGENT."

To be fair...not all the time...but once in a while it would be really nice.

I do have a couple users that document absolutely everything they tried before putting in the ticket. One of them even puts in color commentary to their play-by-play. Even if they're wildly off base about their attempts, they are at least trying to figure something out, just in case it was something they could solve on their own. Sometimes they manage to do so. Sometimes they're clearly wasting their time, but that's their managers' problem, not mine. I appreciate the effort.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

So! On to more depressing news: DBZA is over.

EDIT: for clarity, despite the glib introduction, this is serious, not a joke. These guys are sad and frustrated by this announcement. It's a hard one.

** spoiler omitted **

I remember when they made the announcement that it was on hiatus for Dragon Shortz.

My thing is: you made it to Buu. You can't crank one last saga out?

Nah. And it's really not fair to expect them to. If you watch them, you can see how hard this is on them, but they aren't willing to make dross, and anything they'd make out of it would be, plus (and more importantly) it only takes a single misstep in YouTube's current thing and their entire channel and livelihood is gone - as well as that of their employees.

Basically, they did well and they don't want to end it, but they need to - for their sanity, for their stability, and for their mental, emotional, and financial health.


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My relief is here. Have a good evening, everyone.


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So, on the one hand, I understand that construction is a shifty business, and you can never be sure exactly when you're going to get somewhere, or how long it's going to take.

But if you have the audacity to shut down a city block for an entire week, starting on a Monday no less, you'd best darn actually show up on Monday!

(Yes, our street is (mostly) closed to parking, and AT&T hasn't even bothered to show up yet.)


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I had three other people for my snow run yesterday, none of them made it to the end.


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Have you ever tried fencing with a harmonica in your mouth?

I have.

I don't intend to make a habit of it.

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