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The problem is that that leads to a mindset of being utterly incapable of saying anything bad about something if you can't do the job yourself.
I can't play most instruments, but I know bad music when I hear it.
I can't cook elaborate meals, but I know bad food when I taste it.
You don't need to be an expert to critique. And expecting it as a requirement is ridiculous.
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I've always been the type of cat that goes, before you criticize, prove you can do a better job. I criticize people's cooking because I can do a better job(like, did you have to get that salmon that dry? Or, it's tasteless, did you forget to add salt?) and actually tell them how to improve on it.
I can't draw to save my life, or create campaigns, or game worlds so I definitely am not criticizing people doing it.
I can't perform surgery, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you sew my hand on backward.
I can't cook, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you give me food poisoning.
I can't dance, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you're breakdancing at a waltz.
"If you don't like it, do better" is a useless dismissal of often valid criticism.
You don't need to be a fashionista to know nakedness either!
Edit: The paizo website does not want to let me stay on this page... and the only way right now to get on it is to edit this post...
That is, to be quite frank, a terrible idea and restriction.
I can't play most instruments; I played trombone in high school and haven't touched it since and I can sing halfway decently. That doesn't stop me from knowing bad music when I hear it.
I can't cook much more than two or three dishes. That doesn't stop me from knowing bad food when I taste it.
Requiring one must be able to improve on or outdo someone to critique them is a ridiculous and stupid restriction that only serves to silence criticism and prevent someone from being told their work isn't up to par. It's a way of shutting up the people who don't like what you do, even if their critique is valid, and nothing more.
FAWTL appears to have broken the forums again~
Apologies for the double post.
It is kicking you off onto the previous page as well?
Mayhaps we need to start a new FAWTL already?
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FAWTL appears to have broken the forums again~
It is the way of the world.
Appears to have resolved itself now. Weird.
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FAWTL appears to have broken the forums again~It is the way of the world.
4or-err0r &nd 3rror, @men.
maybe the forums needed to process the insane number of posts we've put on here!
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Huh, things are getting strange all around the site. New posts aren't going away, the page won't stop loading for a while, and now this. Wonder what's causing it.
I enjoyed Goblins heartily, and don't mind people criticizing it or other things I like. Maybe that's my ability to stop and start caring what others think; it shouldn't hurt anyone too much. I see why the "if you don't like it, do better" argument has its flaws, so here's my opinion:
People should be able to say whatever they like, so long as A) No one needs to pay attention or let it get to them, and B) If they decide to, whoever said it should not be surprised when the appropriate consequences come.
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People should be able to say whatever they like, so long as A) No one needs to pay attention or let it get to them, and B) If they decide to, whoever said it should be ready for any appropriate consequences.
On that note I was completely mortified while watching a couple on youtube this morning who literally said they didn't think freedom of speech was a good thing and they wanted people with offensive opinions locked away.
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I've always been the type of cat that goes, before you criticize, prove you can do a better job. I criticize people's cooking because I can do a better job(like, did you have to get that salmon that dry? Or, it's tasteless, did you forget to add salt?) and actually tell them how to improve on it.
I can't draw to save my life, or create campaigns, or game worlds so I definitely am not criticizing people doing it.
I can't perform surgery, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you sew my hand on backward.
I can't cook, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you give me food poisoning.
I can't dance, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you're breakdancing at a waltz.
"If you don't like it, do better" is a useless dismissal of often valid criticism.
whats funny is that none of this is valid criticism or even criticism. Its noticing something has gone horrifically wrong to the point of (near) absurdity.
I cant quite remember the saying an old english teacher of mine used, but it went something like criticism isnt telling someone they suck, its telling someone how they disappointed you. Or something like that. Gah, that's gonna keep me up.
Problem still exists. I get sent to page 3869 if I come here from another thread, with 3870 not visible. If I go to 3868, 3870 becomes visible and I can reach it. I'm going to use my personal initiative and post in Website Feedback.
When it does kick me off, which is thankfully not every time I reload now, I have to finagle it a little bit more...
I've always been the type of cat that goes, before you criticize, prove you can do a better job. I criticize people's cooking because I can do a better job(like, did you have to get that salmon that dry? Or, it's tasteless, did you forget to add salt?) and actually tell them how to improve on it.
I can't draw to save my life, or create campaigns, or game worlds so I definitely am not criticizing people doing it.
I can't perform surgery, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you sew my hand on backward.
I can't cook, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you give me food poisoning.
I can't dance, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you're breakdancing at a waltz.
"If you don't like it, do better" is a useless dismissal of often valid criticism.
whats funny is that none of this is valid criticism or even criticism. Its noticing something has gone horrifically wrong to the point of (near) absurdity.
I cant quite remember the saying an old english teacher of mine used, but it went something like criticism isnt telling someone they suck, its telling someone how they disappointed you. Or something like that. Gah, that's gonna keep me up.
Honestly, I have seen that defense used for things that were bad to the point of near absurdity.
"I cannot tell any of this comic's characters apart without their hairstyle, and this one looks like their wrist is broken."
"Well, I don't see you drawing anything."
But yes, good criticism should be constructive. Here is a specific thing to work on, etc.
G'night, John.
I've always been the type of cat that goes, before you criticize, prove you can do a better job. I criticize people's cooking because I can do a better job(like, did you have to get that salmon that dry? Or, it's tasteless, did you forget to add salt?) and actually tell them how to improve on it.
I can't draw to save my life, or create campaigns, or game worlds so I definitely am not criticizing people doing it.
I can't perform surgery, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you sew my hand on backward.
I can't cook, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you give me food poisoning.
I can't dance, but I'm sure as hell going to critique if you're breakdancing at a waltz.
"If you don't like it, do better" is a useless dismissal of often valid criticism.
whats funny is that none of this is valid criticism or even criticism. Its noticing something has gone horrifically wrong to the point of (near) absurdity.
I cant quite remember the saying an old english teacher of mine used, but it went something like criticism isnt telling someone they suck, its telling someone how they disappointed you. Or something like that. Gah, that's gonna keep me up.
Honestly, I have seen that defense used for things that were bad to the point of near absurdity.
"I cannot tell any of this comic's characters apart without their hairstyle, and this one looks like their wrist is broken."
"Well, I don't see you drawing anything."But yes, good criticism should be constructive. Here is a specific thing to work on, etc.
actually I was hoping you would remember the saying...
About to start a new game can't decide what to play. we have a slayer and a druid. Its my friends first time running a game so I don't want to play a full arcane even though I'm kind of leaning towards arcanist since I haven't played one before.
FAWTL appears to have broken the forums again~
Apologies for the double post.
I thought you were just venting your excessive aggression spawned by your internet anonymity...
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About to start a new game can't decide what to play. we have a slayer and a druid. Its my friends first time running a game so I don't want to play a full arcane even though I'm kind of leaning towards arcanist since I haven't played one before.
Hexcrafter. You're a magus with witch hexes! Oh wait.. That's complicated. Hmm. Go play a bard. Everyone likes bards!
You could even go summoner. Unchained version. If there's a druid already, probably bringing animal companion, I see no reason that a summoner would be any different.
I thought about a Skald but we have kind of a small party So I figure my buff may not be as advantageous.
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Ok, here goes. I’m really NOT particularly suited for philosophy.
Sure, freedom of speech (to criticize or whatsoever) is fine and all that – but remember that the freedom to swing your fist ends at your neighbours nose.
From website:
Some of the most common cyberbullying tactics include:
• Posting comments or rumors about someone online that are mean, hurtful, or embarrassing.
I would say some of the comments on that page count – like calling the author of the comic “a passive aggressive jerk@ss”, or a “horrible douche”.
And also there is potential to sue for slander.
Do you think the author of the page would actually tell that to someone in the face in Real Life? I think not.
If people would practice a little more responsibility before posting things, the internet would be a better place.
hmm might be worth a shot. any cool archtypes or races that go well with it that you can think of? would you say the unchained or the regular one?
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Regularis higher on power level. But if you want simpler, then play a unchained summoner because a lot of customization is taken out of your hands. The good thing about summoners is you get summon Monster as an SLA so once you dismiss your eidolon you can summon stuff to help you do utility things(like earth elemental scout out the cavern, Azatas for healing/condition removal etc). If you need raise dead or stuff requiring material components you'll need to resort to planar binding. Which I don't really like.
Planar ally= Asking politely. With a bigger price tag
Planar binding= Demanding outsiders serve you. Smaller price tag.
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San Francisco General Hospital has now had the second mysterious death in an out-of-the-way stairwell in five years.
As the SF Sheriffs Dept. handles security for the hospital, Whingey Wizzard is now convinced there is a fledgling serial killer inside the Sheriffs Dept.
Having read the details of the first case, I find it extremely unlikely unless there's collusion within the Medical Examiner's office, so... probably not.
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Half elf is good for summoners since you can pump your FCB into eidolon evolutions. And also, you can have a Winged cat eidolon!
If you need help in eidolon evolution point allocation, I can do it for you.
I was kind of thinking dwarf but im undecided. Umm the twin born eidolon amused me (been looking through) or maybe an earth elemental which seems very dwarfy. Inevitable also interested me.
Huh I don't know if you watch legion but twin born would be a great way to make a certain character(s) from that show.
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San Francisco General Hospital has now had the second mysterious death in an out-of-the-way stairwell in five years.
As the SF Sheriffs Dept. handles security for the hospital, Whingey Wizzard is now convinced there is a fledgling serial killer inside the Sheriffs Dept.
Having read the details of the first case, I find it extremely unlikely unless there's collusion within the Medical Examiner's office, so... probably not.
Well in the high school I studied in, there was a rumor that someone committed suicide at the stairwell. Could be the case in the hospital.
Also my data plan is 90% used up, so I should stop reading webcomics.
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Frankly I prefer regular summoner because you can customize your eidolon better and also higher power level.
Dwarf also makes crappy summoners from optimization point of view due to the penalty to Charisma. Again if all you're doing is buffs, at the end of the day it may not matter that much.
Aww like all my choices are the worst possible that is really sad.
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Frankly, anyone (except Mort, who is cool) that tells you not to make any class a dwarf is doing it wrong.
I hate guides.
If it was up to the guides I never would have made my dwarven oracle (stargazer archetype) conspiracy theorist and future sludge aficionado.
Yeah quantified her explanation so I get it. Its not mechanically optimized which is fine. I may still end up doing it even with that limitation.
Although, after 33 years of entirely dwarves and halflings I've started to branch out with elves.
Unfortunately, with how times have worked the last year I haven't actually gotten to play any.
Hmm, yup, except for the one paladin that was backstabbed in the first tavern he went into, all dwarves and halflings.
I guess I shouldn't make fun of my brother for making every single character he's ever made a human ranger, just like Aragorn.
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My first character was a human ranger based on Aragorn. I think I still have him in a old folder with my other 1st edition characters... somewhere.. That was the book Aragorn mind you way before the movie!
Walking dogs this morning, my dad and brother went to fetch the out of state nephews, so I get to walk his dog as well, she is a delightful ray of sunshine (that requires nearly constant positive reinforcement, otherwise she'll revenge poop all over as soon as I go to work).
My first character was a human ranger based on Aragorn. I think I still have him in a old folder with my other 1st edition characters... somewhere.. That was the book Aragorn mind you way before the movie!
Did you make every character since also a human ranger based on Aragorn, I bet not. :-)
My first character was a human ranger based on Aragorn. I think I still have him in a old folder with my other 1st edition characters... somewhere.. That was the book Aragorn mind you way before the movie!Did you make every character since also a human ranger based on Aragorn, I bet not. :-)
I did not that would be a silly thing.
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You know, guys, I've never played a dwarf before? I think it's because I have enough of being short and rounded in RL...some people say I even resemble a dwarf character wise.
I usually play humans and half orcs. Sometimes elves if I'm doing wizard.
Once rolled a gnome named Twinkles with rainbow coloured hair. Heavens oracle...Shiny! *colourspray*
Hmm, yup, except for the one paladin that was backstabbed in the first tavern he went into, all dwarves and halflings.
I guess I shouldn't make fun of my brother for making every single character he's ever made a human ranger, just like Aragorn.
what happened in that tavern, I wonder?
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what happened in that tavern, I wonder?Hmm, yup, except for the one paladin that was backstabbed in the first tavern he went into, all dwarves and halflings.
I guess I shouldn't make fun of my brother for making every single character he's ever made a human ranger, just like Aragorn.
I think they just had a really wild party.
Hmm, yup, except for the one paladin that was backstabbed in the first tavern he went into, all dwarves and halflings.
I guess I shouldn't make fun of my brother for making every single character he's ever made a human ranger, just like Aragorn.
For me it's been mostly humans, half-elves, and elves, but with a smattering of dwarves, the occasional aasimar or tiefling, a halfling or two, a gnome exactly twice...as for classes I tend towards magus, fighter, wizard, arcanist, sorcerer, cleric, and oracle. And sometimes some flavor of alchemist. And an occasional barbarian. Or ranger. Sometimes monk. And then there was that monk/psychic/kineticist...