Hey all I hope someone out there can anwser my questions but for an alchemists bomb attack if you hit your target with a shock bomb do they also get a save for half damage and do they get a save for the secondary affects of the shock bomb(1d4 rds dazzled). I have been looking for a while and im just not seeing it. Any help would be great thats guys.
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You do not get a save if the bomb hits you, you take the damage. And the secondary effects of the shock bomb do not allow for a save, but the secondary effect is only for a direct hit. You get a reflex save if you get hit by the splash damage.
Hey all I hope someone out there can anwser my questions but for an alchemists bomb attack if you hit your target with a shock bomb do they also get a save for half damage
Nope. Bombs just use the range touch attack to hit or miss the main target.
and do they get a save for the secondary affects of the shock bomb(1d4 rds dazzled). I have been looking for a while and im just not seeing it. Any help would be great thats guys.
Yes. The DC = 10 +1/2 alchemist level +int modifier.
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and do they get a save for the secondary affects of the shock bomb(1d4 rds dazzled). I have been looking for a while and im just not seeing it. Any help would be great thats guys.Yes. The DC = 10 +1/2 alchemist level +int modifier.
Where does it say the shock bomb gets a save?
Shock bomb*: When the alchemist creates a bomb, he can choose to have it inflict electricity damage. Creatures that take a direct hit from a shock bomb are dazzled for 1d4 rounds.
Compared to:
Concussive bomb*: When the alchemist creates a bomb, he can choose to have it inflict sonic damage. Concussive bombs deal 1d4 points of sonic damage, plus 1d4 points of sonic damage for every odd-numbered level, instead of 1d6. Creatures that take a direct hit from a concussive bomb are deafened for 1 minute unless they succeed at a Fortitude save. An alchemist must be at least 6th level before selecting this discovery.
If you notice the Shock bomb does not say a save can be made to prevent the dazzled condition. Whereas the Concussive bomb specifically calls out a Fort save for the deafened condition.
Ahh thanks guys for the clarification on this just got the APG last week adn running an alch for the first tiem and I want to do it right.
Hu. I hadn't noticed that there is no save. Dazzle isn't that bad though.
The creature is unable to see well because of overstimulation of the eyes. A dazzled creature takes a –1 penalty on attack rolls and sight-based Perception checks.
