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I do not know the alignment of the Northern deities that voted Yes, but I guess that Heimdall might be LN and Sunna LG, maybe Hoder LN.
So those would make good culprits, especially Heimdall yes
Interesting. I just noticed that 9 deities voted Yes and 9 voted No. The same number as the alignments. Not sure this is a coincidence
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How'd he cast that many spells?
Even if he can somehow get the spell in a domain slot and it low enough level that he gets it 5/day, you'd need a wisdom in the high 40's to cast 11 of the same spell.
I get that OotS is fast and loose with the rules, but that's kinda stretching it...
*shrugs* Maybe he used metamagic to prepare it in some of his higher slots and taught it to the other vampires as well.
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How'd he cast that many spells?
Even if he can somehow get the spell in a domain slot and it low enough level that he gets it 5/day, you'd need a wisdom in the high 40's to cast 11 of the same spell.
I get that OotS is fast and loose with the rules, but that's kinda stretching it...
1) scrolls
2) pearls of power
3) higher level spell slots (no metamagic feat needed; just prepare higher slots)
4) metamagic slots to lower the level (that's only in Pathfinder, though there are ways to get similar effects in 3.X)
5) research/create a "mass" version of the same spell (probably doesn't care about really learning the base one, because it's already in his staff; that last picture aside, I could see them not having passed more than 30 feet or so of bodies {I couldn't actually find rules for timing related to research})
- 5a) widened version of the same (pushes it up to 60 ft.)
There are a number of possibilities.
Nice catch, though, as I hadn't counted the corpses!
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Eh. I don't think the dwarf cleric is DOOM...but she probably won't grow into a side character.
But yeah 17th level is how I figure V can do 8th level spells now.
That and a little better planning might have worked for them. But we'll see.
17th level spells that persist for 34 hours - at two hours per level, that makes him 34/2 = 17th CL, i.e. 17th level.
That's a really daggum powerful wizard, by-the-by. XD
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V has used force cage before on the psion. that was some time ago too.
In news of weird(ly awesome~!) things the fandom keeps track of, uses of forcecage in the comic.
He's used it against the black dragon (when the dragon sought vengeance for her son; comic 627; waaaaayyyyy back in 209), in the fight against Zz'dtri (when ZZ'dtri had nearly insurmountable SR; comic 795; back in 2011); and against Laurin Shattersmith (the epic caster fight; comic 935; back in 2013).
Curiously, the spell has never worked out for him. In two of the three fights the caster in question has teleported out - in the first, the dragon used antimagic field to just... walk out.
The others hallucinated that he'd used it to great success in the Girard room (when the Order was trapped in a hypnosis trap; comic 886; again, in 2013).
It remains to be seen if this is the first time it will have been truly useful (it was debatably useful in the fight against Lauren, causing her to expend resources, but not for its hypothetical "real" purpose).
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17th CL, i.e. 17th level.
I mean, unless he has some CL boosting feats or items.
That's fair. We know his familiar has an orange ioun stone (again, from Lauren Shattersmith), but does that transfer to V? I've forgotten by now if that was ever resolved in some way.
We know his minimum level is 15 - it's been 15 since at least 2009 when he fought the dragon and used that spell (it may have been that high since before then, but I don't keep as solid a track) - the question, though, is if he has ninth level spells.
According to this, he's level 16 - I don't know when that was last updated, though, or what it was relevant, toward.
(Seems it was relevant toward the battle with Lauren?)
... aaaaaaaaaaaaand just found the answer. There we go. 17th CL, 16th level, looks like.
EDIT: other source
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While it looks to be 20ft tall, the appearance is that of the solid wall version. Maybe V had it metamagic'd to be enlarged.
Widened (Enlarge increases range), which by RAW would not affect forcecage (it is limited to certain shapes of area effects - lines, emanations, bursts, and spreads), though of course Rich does not have to stick to the rules 100%...
I think it's just not sticking to the grid (10 feet is three meters, i.e. width of my room, it seems to be a plenty of space for a small group).
The Raven Black
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Tacticslion wrote:17th CL, i.e. 17th level.TriOmegaZero wrote:I mean, unless he has some CL boosting feats or items.That's fair. We know his familiar has an orange ioun stone (again, from Lauren Shattersmith), but does that transfer to V? I've forgotten by now if that was ever resolved in some way.
We know his minimum level is 15 - it's been 15 since at least 2009 when he fought the dragon and used that spell (it may have been that high since before then, but I don't keep as solid a track) - the question, though, is if he has ninth level spells.
According to this, he's level 16 - I don't know when that was last updated, though, or what it was relevant, toward.
(Seems it was relevant toward the battle with Lauren?)... aaaaaaaaaaaaand just found the answer. There we go. 17th CL, 16th level, looks like.
EDIT: other source
Am I the only one who thinks Rich planted the ioun stone just so he could boost V's level for this spell so that he could write the "Thirty-four hours" vs "Twenty-four hours" too much information bit ?