Is the Barbarian Worth Playing Again?


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Maerimydra wrote:


I think that maybe, just maybe, you're playing a little to much D&D/Pathfinder. (;

It reminds me of one of my friend who used to give a charisma score to every girls he saw in the street. :P

:D

That's a misinterpretation of Charisma! NERDRAGE

more seriously, I sometimes encourage my players to compare some cool move or action seen in a movie with the rules of the game, for two purposes:

- they can enjoy to transmit the same badassey in their Character

- they can use feats and class features in an imaginative way, because I'm really tired of the "melee can only charge and full attack" and few of my players used to have this mindset.


Maerimydra wrote:
This, the bare-chest barbarian, it comes mostly from Conan, the iconic barbarian. I'm reading the Complete Chronicles of Conan (from Robert E. Howard) right now and I can tell you that, even as a barbarian, Conan is wearing an armor most of the time.

The "iconic" bare-chested barbarian would be Tarzan. It got worse after the whole body-building wave arrived, and peplum movies and "beefcake" pinups became popular. Then you had Vallejo, Frazetta and the hedonistic 80s, and the damage was done. That's why Elmore got popular for a while, at least some of his characters had an reasonable amount of armor (well, if they were male).


Greetings, fellow travellers.

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bare-chested barbarian

There is a unique magic armor

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in AP KM#1 which does exactly that. It gives you protection like studded leather (+1, if I remember correctly) - so designing that should not be a problem.

Ruyan.

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mhd wrote:
Maerimydra wrote:
This, the bare-chest barbarian, it comes mostly from Conan, the iconic barbarian. I'm reading the Complete Chronicles of Conan (from Robert E. Howard) right now and I can tell you that, even as a barbarian, Conan is wearing an armor most of the time.
The "iconic" bare-chested barbarian would be Tarzan. It got worse after the whole body-building wave arrived, and peplum movies and "beefcake" pinups became popular. Then you had Vallejo, Frazetta and the hedonistic 80s, and the damage was done.

Not to mention the Marvel Comics adaptations of both Conan and Red Sonja. although in later versions of the Sonja comic they did get her out of the bikini and put some light armor on her.

I wonder how many people know that the original version of the character was called Red Sonja of Rogatine and that her stchtick was flintlocks?

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LazarX wrote:

I wonder how many people know that the original version of the character was called Red Sonja of Rogatine and that her stchtick was flintlocks?

Hahhah, not many I reckon. I think the Mahvel Red Sonja is more than a little influenced by the Queen character in the Howard novel, Queen of the Black Coast, where Conan does some swashbucklery. Little to no armor, sassy as hell and the blistering hot climate inlfuencing everyone's garb. Then there's the character in Red Nails who uses a thin longsword and wears padding and leather, which is likely another inspiration for the popular character.

It's funny though, the Mahvel Sonja is so aggravatingly sexist when it comes to imagery, but Howard's sexism barely shows in the female adventurers he presents. Unlike the damsels in distress and sexy sorceresses. Meet the Were-woman of the Mires in the Worms of the Earth! Stranger fellow, that Robbie.

Anyhow and on that note, I want to eventually make an eldritch-slaying witch hunter barbarian modeled after Solomon Kane. I'll reflavour barbarian rage as righteous fury and wield a grosse messer(falchion). Rock.


Muser wrote:
LazarX wrote:

I wonder how many people know that the original version of the character was called Red Sonja of Rogatine and that her stchtick was flintlocks?

Hahhah, not many I reckon. I think the Mahvel Red Sonja is more than a little influenced by the Queen character in the Howard novel, Queen of the Black Coast, where Conan does some swashbucklery.

Belit :). One of my favorite Conan stories.


meatrace wrote:
Belit :). One of my favorite Conan stories.

So far, because I didn't read all of them yet, mine is the Scarlet Citadel, and only because of one of Conan's quotes:

"I offer you life, Conan," said Tsotha, a cruel mirth bubbling at the back of his voice.

"I give you death, wizard," snarled the king, and backed by iron muscles and ferocious hate the great sword swung in a stroke meant to shear Tsotha's lean torso in half.

That's how I like my barbarians! :D


Maerimydra wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Belit :). One of my favorite Conan stories.

So far, because I didn't read all of them yet, mine is the Scarlet Citadel, and only because of one of Conan's quotes:

"I offer you life, Conan," said Tsotha, a cruel mirth bubbling at the back of his voice.

"I give you death, wizard," snarled the king, and backed by iron muscles and ferocious hate the great sword swung in a stroke meant to shear Tsotha's lean torso in half.

That's how I like my barbarians! :D

Thieves in the House is also a favorite. It is the birth of the feat "Razor Sharp Chair Leg" which is what I believe greater improvised weapon was called in Beta. :)

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I like the way this thread is heading.

One of my faves is The Tower of the Elephant. It and Phoenix in the Sword are the two stories I like to showcase when I meet people who can't think of anything but loincloths and iron hard thews when thinking of Conan. The first one has Conan as a young thief avoiding detection and doing roguish stuff and the latter is the classic venerable king story of Conan in his autumn years. Hey, I like my Savage Sword comics as well as anyone, but going to a cavalry battle in a loincloth is just silly.


Speaking of Conan and the bare-chested Barbarian build, it's interesting to note that whenever Conan is described as fighting bare-chested, he also gets his ass kicked more thoroughly than usual. It's only when he's wearing armor that he's described as "invincible."


Archmage_Atrus wrote:
Speaking of Conan and the bare-chested Barbarian build, it's interesting to note that whenever Conan is described as fighting bare-chested, he also gets his ass kicked more thoroughly than usual. It's only when he's wearing armor that he's described as "invincible."

True! That's why barbarians need their half-plates. :)

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