Eidolon details questions


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Couldn't see anything about these in faqs or in specific threads, so...

1)

Eidolon Skills wrote:
The following skills are class skills for eidolons: Bluff (Cha), Craft (Int), Knowledge (planes) (Int), Perception (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), and Stealth (Dex). In addition, at 1st level, the summoner can choose 4 additional skills to be class skills for his eidolon. Note that eidolons with a fly speed receive Fly (Dex) as a free class skill, even if they do not gain a fly speed until a later level.

Should I assume the correct wording was meant to be something like: "even if they lose their fly speed at a later level"? Because if an Eidolon receives Fly due to its fly speed, then obviously it already has a fly speed...

2)

Quote:
Unless otherwise noted, each evolution can only be selected once.
Bite wrote:

An eidolon’s maw is full of razor-sharp teeth, giving it a bite attack. This attack is a primary attack. The bite deals 1d6 points of damage (1d8 if Large, 2d6 if Huge). If the eidolon already has a bite attack, this evolution allows it to deal 1-1/2 times its Strength modifier on damage rolls made with its bite.

Should I assume (again) that this evolution can be taken up to two times?

3)

Climb wrote:
An eidolon becomes a skilled climber, gaining a climb speed equal to its base speed. This evolution can be selected more than once. Each additional time it is selected, increase the eidolon’s climb speed by 20 feet.

Although I would say yes, I'll ask anyway: does the Eidolon also acquire the +8 bonus to Climb skill checks and the ability to always take 10 and so on? The main thing that instills the doubt in me is that things like the differencies between primary and secondary attacks are explained in the Eidolon's entry (and it's good, since many players may just read the Core Book and APG and not know rules like these that are detailed in the Bestiary), while this other thing is not. This question also applies to the Swim evolution.

4)

Poison wrote:
This poison can be used no more than once per round.

Provided the Eidolon has both poisonous bite and one or more stings and makes a full attack, does this mean that it must declare to which of its attacks he will apply the poison for that round, before making the attack rolls, or that it can go freely and if at least one of its attacks hits he can apply poison to it independently?

5) About the Web evolution, regarding its use for climbing, is it to be treated as a rope? And how long? 50 ft.? How long does it last before becoming unusable?
What if another creature (be it ally or foe) tries to climb it? I mean, shouldn't she find it attached to herself? Even in the case where it wouldn't entangle her in that way, shouldn't the web be unusable for any creature trying to climb after her, since she messed it up by having it attached all over her or, at best, all over her hands, as if she was unwillingly reel it?


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Irrlicht wrote:

Couldn't see anything about these in faqs or in specific threads, so...

1)

Eidolon Skills wrote:
The following skills are class skills for eidolons: Bluff (Cha), Craft (Int), Knowledge (planes) (Int), Perception (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), and Stealth (Dex). In addition, at 1st level, the summoner can choose 4 additional skills to be class skills for his eidolon. Note that eidolons with a fly speed receive Fly (Dex) as a free class skill, even if they do not gain a fly speed until a later level.

Should I assume the correct wording was meant to be something like: "even if they lose their fly speed at a later level"? Because if an Eidolon receives Fly due to its fly speed, then obviously it already has a fly speed...

2)

Quote:
Unless otherwise noted, each evolution can only be selected once.
Bite wrote:

An eidolon’s maw is full of razor-sharp teeth, giving it a bite attack. This attack is a primary attack. The bite deals 1d6 points of damage (1d8 if Large, 2d6 if Huge). If the eidolon already has a bite attack, this evolution allows it to deal 1-1/2 times its Strength modifier on damage rolls made with its bite.

Should I assume (again) that this evolution can be taken up to two times?

3)

Climb wrote:
An eidolon becomes a skilled climber, gaining a climb speed equal to its base speed. This evolution can be selected more than once. Each additional time it is selected, increase the eidolon’s climb speed by 20 feet.

Although I would say yes, I'll ask anyway: does the Eidolon also acquire the +8 bonus to Climb skill checks and the ability to always take 10 and so on? The main thing that instills the doubt in me is that things like the differencies between primary and secondary attacks are explained in the Eidolon's entry (and it's good, since many players may just read the Core Book and APG and not know rules like these that are detailed in the Bestiary), while this other thing is not. This question also applies to the Swim evolution.

4)...

1) I have no idea

2) 2 of the three base forms come with a bite attack already.
3) yes
4) usually the bite, but yes you declare which attack casues the poison when the power is chosen, he doesnt shift it between attacks.
5) i'd say anyone other than the eidolon touches it they are snared.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

1. Eidolon's don't get the class skill bonus for fly skill checks until they get the Flight evolution. If they get flight in some other manner (magic item, spell, etc.) it's not considered a class skill.

5. I'd go with the Universal Monster Rules from the Beastiary on what you can do with the Web evolution.

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