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My first PFS character is about to finish his first adventure - PBP - and is a burly summoner with mounted feats who wishes to be a Knight - this alias if you are interested. Since the eidolon starts off medium he cannot ride it until 5th level when it can take the large evolution. I had hoped to use mount in the meantime to get an occasional use out of my mounted feats, but now realize that the rules for none combat trained mounts make this untenable and will change out the spell.
Can I purchase a heavy horse - I believe I can from searches here, and readings of the PFS PDF, but would like confirmation - can I do so when I already have a companion creature, and if so would it be poor table etiquette to do so? I will be playing PBP exclusively and am usually a prompt and active poster, so I hope taking up table time will be less of an issue than in normal play. To be clear I'd be perfectly happy with only very occasionally getting to use mounted combat, and am certainly not expecting it to be practical every adventure.
I was also wondering if there is any method to make leaving a horse outside dungeons, etc., more practical. I've heard of vanities and believe they are earned on chronicle sheets, and understand we are not supposed to know what is on which chronicle sheet, but a valet sure would be handy. Any suggestions appreciated.
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Having a combat mount + the eidolon is a little iffy. I'd expect to see some table variation on that.
Scroll of Carry companion can keep your horse safe in your pocket . but i think new horses are cheaper.
The squire Vanity for 4 PP from the field guide also sounds right up your alley
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Thanks N N 959, that was very helpful. I think I'll take a heavy warhorse, leave it outside instructed to guard, and only summon my eidolon when we enter narrower confines. I'll still have summon monster available afterall. I'll ensure I talk things over with DMs before the game begins, using a mount to attack on without it attacking itself is clearly a grey area.
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Also keep in mind that a horse you buy with gold will always stay a horse as it is found in the Bestiary. In high tier scenarios, such a mount can die really quickly if hit by an opponent. But at some point, you won't have to worry about that when you can ride your eidolon.
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Since the eidolon starts off medium he cannot ride it until 5th level when it can take the large evolution. I had hoped to use mount in the meantime to get an occasional use out of my mounted feats, but now realize that the rules for none combat trained mounts make this untenable and will change out the spell.
The advice above is solid. Just note that the Large evolution requires an 8th-level summoner, not a 5th-level one.
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That's my thought, 19 hp is pretty decent up until level 3 or 4, more than my eidolon will have until 3rd level. And frankly having an opponent do 19 damage to my horse instead of me or one of my fellow Pathfinders does not seem a bad deal! I've got mounted combat to, so with some barding it should be pretty survivable. 4th level will likely be tough, but I'll likely have a cure wand and its going to take about forty points of damage to kill it outright.
I'll take it as a challenge to have Mister Biscuits survive until he can be retired for stud at 5th level :)
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Oh, dang, thanks for pointing that out John, you are right of course. Hmmm, well that's going to be tough, maybe I can start making use of enlarge person at higher levels. I don't suppose anyone knows of a method to up a horses hp that is not too ruinous? This is all a long way off though, years given the pace of PBP, and 300gp still sounds like a pretty good deal.
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Oh, dang, thanks for pointing that out John, you are right of course. Hmmm, well that's going to be tough, maybe I can start making use of enlarge person at higher levels. I don't suppose anyone knows of a method to up a horses hp that is not too ruinous? This is all a long way off though, years given the pace of PBP, and 300gp still sounds like a pretty good deal.
Have you considered becoming a gnome? Small size means you only need a medium mount.
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@BigNorseWolf, No I'm pretty invested in my character, and I don't mind being a tad suboptimal, he's been a blast to play so far.
@N N 959, sadly both of the options do not seem to work for summoners, I suppose I could UMD Carry Companion - the animal just needs to be friendly - but it would be prohibitively expensive, and I was not really planning on taking ranks in UMD.
I'll probably purchase a mount and play it by ear, I still think its a bargain under any interpretation of the rules.
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Why not play a cavalier? Everything you have in your ALIAS points to a cavalier, plus the way you wish to play. Why do you need to be a summoner? Is it so you can create your mount in some capacity? Do not forget that Summoners suffer from Arcane Spell failure. Being in the front lines as well will really be detrimental to your health.
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Why not just use the Mount spell? 1st level spell that lasts 2 hours/level. Also, it is a summoned creature. It benefits from Augment Summoning. Can also serve as a combat summon, with some Handle animal. Mount + Wartrain mount is definitely combat capable (but you would need to find a friendly inquisitor or Paladin). Also can be summoned in dungeons.
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Well honestly I wanted to ride a blue furry dragon - I may be a Neverending Story fan - and I find the cavalier rather uninspiring. Perhaps I am being unfair been a long time since I looked at the class, and I recall being unimpressed. Honestly my thought process was more how can I make a different kind of summoner, etc.
Wartrain Mount is a great idea, shame I can't get it as a 1st level wand. Mount requires a DC 20 ride check to be worth using in combat, I have it and the difficulty of using it spurred this thread.
@Grayfen Starling I am proposing using my heavy horse as a combat animal when I do not have my eidolon summoned, would you find that acceptable as a DM?
