Hello,
My players just fineshed HMM and we will quickly proceeding to Fortess of the Stone Giants. I don´t understand why it is so important for Karzoug to destroy the Hellfire fume in which Xaliasa was stationed? What does Karzoug fear from his old spy? Or the Runeforge?
Xaliasa knows how to get in Runeforge where is magic that could harm Karzoug (runeforged weapons). Better safe than sorry. That is the main reason to that Karzoug wants to kill Xaliasa. Attack to Sandpoint was to get stone from Old Light that Mokmurian could locate where Xaliasa slumbers.
Still don´t make sense to me.
He knows much but is 10.000 years dead! Karzoug must be very very cautious to look after 10.000 year long dead spies (one amonst many I´m sure) and make sure they stay that way. Especially if his intrusion make the "heroes of this age" curios whats so important on this site (otherwise they probably never give the thing a second tought).
And for the Runeforged Weapons.... they are nice sure. But nothing Karzoug really has to be afraid of.
Still don´t make sense to me.
He knows much but is 10.000 years dead! Karzoug must be very very cautious to look after 10.000 year long dead spies (one amonst many I´m sure) and make sure they stay that way. Especially if his intrusion make the "heroes of this age" curios whats so important on this site (otherwise they probably never give the thing a second tought).
And for the Runeforged Weapons.... they are nice sure. But nothing Karzoug really has to be afraid of.
Xaliasa was one of a handfull of people who knew about the Runeforge AND how to get to it. Mokmurian has been tasked with finding the ruins of the Hellfire plume that Xaliasa was stationed at... after all, there were MANY Hellfire plumes. Once the right one was found, they wanted to make sure any information or evidence left behind by Xaliasa regarding the whereabouts of the Runeforge was destroyed so that no one could ever track it down and use it against Karzoug.
They don't attack Sandpoint with the intentions to destroy the Hellfire Plume, Teratkinus just wants to retrieve a single stone from it so they can tell if it's the one they're looking for. They're just looting and pillaging while they're there cause, well, why not? The fact that Xaliasa is actually still around is just bonus, though Karzoug doesn't know this yet.
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One remark! I never said he ordered Sandpoint to be destroyed. He orders the Flume to be destroyed! Page 9 of Adventure 4 says:" Karzoug did make clear that Mokmurian should reduce the site to nothing more than dust and ashes" and "...when his (Mokmurian) army marches, he can take special care in destroying this particular site for his master".
But thank you very much. It´s now much clearer than before, now that I see all information summarized! But why does Karzoug not plan to enter Runeforge? Now that he is the only surviving Runelord?
Some events appear too staged for my taste! X betrayed Karzoug and just as he found the way to entry runeforge, the world turns upside down (Earhtfall?). But Karzoug has enough time to know he betryed him and that he found a way how to enter Runeforge. Sure. So many accidents!
But why does Karzoug not plan to enter Runeforge? Now that he is the only surviving Runelord?
He can't enter Runeforge... from SotS 'The seven runelords bound themselves by edict that they themselves would never directly interfere with or even enter Runeforge, for fear that their presence would hamper the work being performed there.'
If he can't go there, I'm not surprised that he'd try to prevent anyone else entering as well. Therefore, he's orders to destroy Xalasias notes and information makes good sense.
But why does Karzoug not plan to enter Runeforge? Now that he is the only surviving Runelord?He can't enter Runeforge... from SotS 'The seven runelords bound themselves by edict that they themselves would never directly interfere with or even enter Runeforge, for fear that their presence would hamper the work being performed there.'
If he can't go there, I'm not surprised that he'd try to prevent anyone else entering as well. Therefore, he's orders to destroy Xalasias notes and information makes good sense.
Ok, maybe I was a little bit unclear.
Why does he not enter Runeforge, when all that is holding him back an old edict?
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Why does he not enter Runeforge, when all that is holding him back an old edict?
I believe at this point he isn't able to go much of anywhere, as he is still bound to his demiplane. It isn't until the climax of the series in Part 6 that he is nearing manifestation in the physical world. Thus why he has to rely on other agents to pave the way for him.
Seems I really must spell everything out.
1. Karzoug can sent his minions to Runeforge.
2. He could want to wait for later, when he is back in full glory.
Why just destroy the (only?) clue to the way to runeforge? Especially Karzoug (Runelord of GREED). I can´t imagine someone so greedy not wanting to dip into the secretes of Runeforge!
It took me a long while, but your statement is not true. Runelords can enter Runeforge (See PF AP 6, p.61, under Leng Device is Operational).
Therefore it was just an edict, that surely had sense when the other runelords still lived. They respected these edict, because all other runelords would possibly band together to destroy the oathbreaker.
I have to agree with Kropp, it doesn't say the Runelords can't enter the Runeforge it simply says they agreed not to enter and they all upheld this until the end. It was designed so that one Runelord could not dominate the Runeforge with the threat of the other combined Runelord's wrath keeping each of them from breaking the agreement.
However there is one very very important reason why Karzoug would care about the Runeforge. It was where the magic of the Runewell keeping him alive was developed and therefore the information to stop his return, which is a great immediate threat to him. If I was in Karzoug's shoes I would have my warriors raze a town so close to a font of information that could possibly bring about my defeat.