Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.
Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
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Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
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No, just means that once he runs out of bullets and gas and has to make his own or fight to find some in Numeria that he'll do well instead of very well, but once he gets the boomstick ammo and chainsaw go juice back he'll be good to go for more.
Assuming he doesn't do any knucklehead moves along the way. But he wouldn't do that!
Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
Humbly,
YawarNo, just means that once he runs out of bullets and gas and has to make his own or fight to find some in Numeria that he'll do well instead of very well, but once he gets the boomstick ammo and chainsaw go juice back he'll be good to go for more.
Assuming he doesn't do any knucklehead moves along the way. But he wouldn't do that!
Couldn't he ask a local sage or wizard in a city to make/find some? I mean, they can't be THAT stupid, especially if he explains well (though from what you say about Golarion's medieval stasis I believe they just might be.)
Plus, Fabricate Bullets is a second level spell, same as locate object.
Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
Humbly,
YawarNo, just means that once he runs out of bullets and gas and has to make his own or fight to find some in Numeria that he'll do well instead of very well, but once he gets the boomstick ammo and chainsaw go juice back he'll be good to go for more.
Assuming he doesn't do any knucklehead moves along the way. But he wouldn't do that!
To build on this, how quickly could the USA conquer Golarion if they were to invade for oil (assume no other factors like public outcry or any of that nonsense on our side)? Since it seems if one man with a shotgun could do so well, obviously an army of the world's best soldiers could easily crush any political entity in Golarion, and thus the world itself, a la GATE.
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Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
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YawarNo, just means that once he runs out of bullets and gas and has to make his own or fight to find some in Numeria that he'll do well instead of very well, but once he gets the boomstick ammo and chainsaw go juice back he'll be good to go for more.
Assuming he doesn't do any knucklehead moves along the way. But he wouldn't do that!
Couldn't he ask a local sage or wizard in a city to make/find some? I mean, they can't be THAT stupid, especially if he explains well (though from what you say about Golarion's medieval stasis I believe they just might be.)
Plus, Fabricate Bullets is a second level spell, same as locate object.
A sage, perhaps. A wizard, not so much. Wizards are experts on magic, not bullets and gasoline. There's some in Numeria that could help, but he'd still have to go to Numeria.
More to the point, this is Ash we're talking about. The wizards and sages might not be THAT stupid, but he might be! Or perhaps stubborn is a better word. He gets the job done, yes, but as much due to dumb luck and stubbornness as anything else!
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To build on this, how quickly could the USA conquer Golarion if they were to invade for oil (assume no other factors like public outcry or any of that nonsense on our side)? Since it seems if one man with a shotgun could do so well, obviously an army of the world's best soldiers could easily crush any political entity in Golarion, and thus the world itself, a la GATE.
Not really interested whatsoever in that storyline at all, but that said... that's an entirely new genre of game and would require an entirely new set of rules to do. And without having designed those rules, I can't tell you in rules-speak how they'd do it.
And it's just as big a lift to come up with a compelling storyline for this beyond the initial idea.
And shotguns are in the game. They don't do THAT much more damage than anything else of a comparable level. One man with a shotgun won't upend the country. Especially if that one man is Ash.
Ash is not a stereotypical PC. He's a slapstick anti-hero who gets by as much on dumb luck as he does skill or stubbornness. That's what makes the character so much fun.
To build on this, how quickly could the USA conquer Golarion if they were to invade for oil (assume no other factors like public outcry or any of that nonsense on our side)? Since it seems if one man with a shotgun could do so well, obviously an army of the world's best soldiers could easily crush any political entity in Golarion, and thus the world itself, a la GATE.Not really interested whatsoever in that storyline at all, but that said... that's an entirely new genre of game and would require an entirely new set of rules to do. And without having designed those rules, I can't tell you in rules-speak how they'd do it.
And it's just as big a lift to come up with a compelling storyline for this beyond the initial idea.
And shotguns are in the game. They don't do THAT much more damage than anything else of a comparable level. One man with a shotgun won't upend the country. Especially if that one man is Ash.
Ash is not a stereotypical PC. He's a slapstick anti-hero who gets by as much on dumb luck as he does skill or stubbornness. That's what makes the character so much fun.
I am not talking about making a new game. In fact, it shouldn't require a new game. The USA should conquer them without any real effort since all their society and tech is medieval so all we do is snipe the kings with sniper guns and we are gold.
Do you dispute this?
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Very well! At least until he ran out of bullets or gas.Does that mean that Ash Williams' knowledge chemistry won't apply in Golarion? That he probably won't be able to acquire the necessary reagents and tools because of a language barrier? Or something else?
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YawarNo, just means that once he runs out of bullets and gas and has to make his own or fight to find some in Numeria that he'll do well instead of very well, but once he gets the boomstick ammo and chainsaw go juice back he'll be good to go for more.
Assuming he doesn't do any knucklehead moves along the way. But he wouldn't do that!
Couldn't he ask a local sage or wizard in a city to make/find some? I mean, they can't be THAT stupid, especially if he explains well (though from what you say about Golarion's medieval stasis I believe they just might be.)
Plus, Fabricate Bullets is a second level spell, same as locate object.
A sage, perhaps. A wizard, not so much. Wizards are experts on magic, not bullets and gasoline. There's some in Numeria that could help, but he'd still have to go to Numeria.
More to the point, this is Ash we're talking about. The wizards and sages might not be THAT stupid, but he might be! Or perhaps stubborn is a better word. He gets the job done, yes, but as much due to dumb luck and stubbornness as anything else!
Bullets aren't super-complicated foreign concepts though. They already exist. Though Ash's horrible descriptions might not help. For gas they would just find a way to run it magically. Bam. No more fuel problems.
To the other point: So are they that stupid? You certainly imply they are, which would contradict your last statement that 25 int doesn't correspond to 80 int in the real world.
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Bullets aren't super-complicated foreign concepts though. One spell fixes it.
So are they that stupid? You certainly imply they are, which would contradict your last statement that 25 int doesn't correspond to 80 int in the real world.
I'm tired of these questions. Let's move on. (And when you do, please try to phrase your posts in a less antagonistic way. I'm here to answer questions, not to debate story telling themes or fight over whose idea is better.)
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I am not talking about making a new game. In fact, it shouldn't require a new game. The USA should conquer them without any real effort since all their society and tech is medieval so all we do is snipe the kings with sniper guns and we are gold.
Do you dispute this?
You can tell whatever stories you want to tell. I don't dispute that you could tell a story where the real-world USA invades Golarion to drain them of their oil reserves. I just am not interested in that story and thus I'm not really interested in spitballing "how would I build this adventure path in Pathfinder" at all.
Other than to say that when you do decide to tell a story, you need to decide who is the protagonist and who is the antagonist, and whether you want your story to be a tragedy or comedy in the Shakespearean sense of those words. Those two things can DRASTICALLY change how you'd do a USA invades Golarion story, and whether or not those sniper guns would even stand a chance against people who can cast wish or raise the dead or ride dragons or any of the other over-the-top fantasy tropes that are available for you to draw upon when telling fantasy stories.
So no, I don't dispute the idea of a story where the USA invades Golarion and finds it a pushover and takes all their natural resources, but that story isn't interesting to me at all.
I am not talking about making a new game. In fact, it shouldn't require a new game. The USA should conquer them without any real effort since all their society and tech is medieval so all we do is snipe the kings with sniper guns and we are gold.
Do you dispute this?
You can tell whatever stories you want to tell. I don't dispute that you could tell a story where the real-world USA invades Golarion to drain them of their oil reserves. I just am not interested in that story and thus I'm not really interested in spitballing "how would I build this adventure path in Pathfinder" at all.
Other than to say that when you do decide to tell a story, you need to decide who is the protagonist and who is the antagonist, and whether you want your story to be a tragedy or comedy in the Shakespearean sense of those words. Those two things can DRASTICALLY change how you'd do a USA invades Golarion story, and whether or not those sniper guns would even stand a chance against people who can cast wish or raise the dead or ride dragons or any of the other over-the-top fantasy tropes that are available for you to draw upon when telling fantasy stories.
So no, I don't dispute the idea of a story where the USA invades Golarion and finds it a pushover and takes all their natural resources, but that story isn't interesting to me at all.
Let's rephrase it: would YOU think it possible (or not) for the US to curbstomp and if so why or why not? Give a few reasons, please.
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Let's rephrase it: would YOU think it possible (or not) for the US to curbstomp and if so why or why not? Give a few reasons, please.
It 100% depends on the story's goals. For me, no, it's not possible, because...
A) I wouldn't create that story as a writer, and...
B) I wouldn't approve that story for publication by Paizo as Pathfinder's creative director.
Have you seen the trailer for Godzilla v. Kong? Any early thoughts?
Are you watching WandaVision?
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Have you seen the trailer for Godzilla v. Kong? Any early thoughts?
Ha Of COURSE I've seen it! Several times! Love it! Based on it and some internet ideas... my (potentially spoilery) thoughts are...
And in the end, Kong will fall from a great height, potentially in a last-ditch move to defeat Mechagodzilla, and the real Godzilla will emerge triumphant hopefully to show up in another movie (although at this point, as far as I know, this is the last one in the Legendary Pictures series, and given how frustrated they are with how Warner Brothers decided to put the movie out on HBO Max I wouldn't be surprised to see legal issues and studio bickering put the nail in the series' coffin for the forseeable future... hope Toho has some more in the works!)
Also: Godzilla vs. Kong has been done before, and as then, this time it makes me feel uncomfortable in the same way: it's like seeing your two best friends fight to the death. But that said, I'm team Godzilla every time.
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Are you watching WandaVision?
Nope, not yet. I don't yet have a sub to Disney +, since there's not yet enough on there to make me feel like the trouble to add yet another streaming service is worth it. That'll change once Moon Knight shows up (not because I'm a Moon Knight fan... In fact I barely know anything about Moon Knight at all), but because several episodes of Moon Knight are being directed by my favorite director duo: Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead.
At that point, I'll sub up for the minimum 1 year purchase, and finally watch Wanda Vision and that Star Wars thing.
Let's rephrase it: would YOU think it possible (or not) for the US to curbstomp and if so why or why not? Give a few reasons, please.It 100% depends on the story's goals. For me, no, it's not possible, because...
A) I wouldn't create that story as a writer, and...
B) I wouldn't approve that story for publication by Paizo as Pathfinder's creative director.
But realistically, IN-UNIVERSE, could the US curbstomp Golarion if suddenly a portal opened to there from Earth? Because frankly, if the writers themselves need to say "no", then it is pretty telling that Earth would probably win.
And frankly, what with all the civilian cars and planes and stuff we have, why, the Golarians would probably just go insane. All our tech would just blow their medieval little minds.
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But realistically, IN-UNIVERSE, could the US curbstomp Golarion if suddenly a portal opened to there from Earth? Because frankly, if the writers themselves need to say "no", then it is pretty telling that Earth would probably win.Let's rephrase it: would YOU think it possible (or not) for the US to curbstomp and if so why or why not? Give a few reasons, please.It 100% depends on the story's goals. For me, no, it's not possible, because...
A) I wouldn't create that story as a writer, and...
B) I wouldn't approve that story for publication by Paizo as Pathfinder's creative director.
This argument is like "Who would win in a fight: the Predator or Batman?" It depends on what story you want to tell, which is fueled by which character you, the story teller, prefer. Using the word "REALISTICALLY" when there's unrealistic parts of your argument (AKA: Golarion is unrealistic) is ironic, though.
In any case, let's please move on to questions, not perpetuate story arguments, please. It's obviously your preference for the US vs. Golarion storyline is different than mine, and we're not going to convince each other to change our minds, nor should we try because having different preferences is good.
If you want to consider the thought-experiment of USA vs. Golarion, please start a new thread for folks to toss ideas back and forth.
And frankly, what with all the civilian cars and planes and stuff we have, why, the Golarians would probably just go insane. All our tech would just blow their medieval little minds.
And you assume that our modern little minds would do any better the first time we see someone cast a spell? That's a ridiculous argument to make in this case. You can't have it both ways.
ANYWAY... like I said above... let's move on to other topics before this one gets too argumentative and political.
But realistically, IN-UNIVERSE, could the US curbstomp Golarion if suddenly a portal opened to there from Earth? Because frankly, if the writers themselves need to say "no", then it is pretty telling that Earth would probably win.Let's rephrase it: would YOU think it possible (or not) for the US to curbstomp and if so why or why not? Give a few reasons, please.It 100% depends on the story's goals. For me, no, it's not possible, because...
A) I wouldn't create that story as a writer, and...
B) I wouldn't approve that story for publication by Paizo as Pathfinder's creative director.This argument is like "Who would win in a fight: the Predator or Batman?" It depends on what story you want to tell, which is fueled by which character you, the story teller, prefer. Using the word "REALISTICALLY" when there's unrealistic parts of your argument (AKA: Golarion is unrealistic) is ironic, though.
In any case, let's please move on to questions, not perpetuate story arguments, please. It's obviously your preference for the US vs. Golarion storyline is different than mine, and we're not going to convince each other to change our minds, nor should we try because having different preferences is good.
If you want to consider the thought-experiment of USA vs. Golarion, please start a new thread for folks to toss ideas back and forth.
And frankly, what with all the civilian cars and planes and stuff we have, why, the Golarians would probably just go insane. All our tech would just blow their medieval little minds.And you assume that our modern little minds would do any better the first time we see someone cast a spell? That's a ridiculous argument to make in this case. You can't have it both ways.
ANYWAY... like I said above... let's move on to other topics before this one gets too argumentative and political.
We would be able to handle it better since we have a better grasp on culture and the world around us. The average USA citizen is far more knowledgeable and wealthy than even a Golarion king, and our world advances everyday in robotics, medicine, etc. Meanwhile, the average man on Golarion is a dirt-farming primitive peasant who works from sunup to sundown on his oppressive feudal lords fields until he dies with no hope of life ever getting better (aka real medieval life, and I have yet to see anything to the contrary in any AP or printed source).
There is a big difference is what I'm saying.
However, if you really want to prove Golarion is "not a medieval world" like you have been saying, give some in-universe examples and reasons why please?
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However, if you really want to prove Golarion is "not a medieval world" like you have been saying, give some in-universe examples and reasons why please?
It has magic and monsters and takes inspiration from eras and regions far beyond medieval Europe.
The medieval world did not have magic, nor monsters, and the one I infer you're speaking of is a specific time period in European history.
My proof of in-universe examples that Golarion is a different place than the historical European medieval world exists in every product we publish. Pick any of them at random to find examples.
Is there a type of cuisine you could imagine Cheliax being known for?
Where in Avistan could you imagine Kaijus living?
As always, thank you so much for taking the time to answer questions! :)
Who came up with the name Azlant? I mean in-world and in real-life.
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Were in Avistan could you imagine Kaijus living?
As always, thank you so much for taking the time to answer questions! :)
Nowhere, really. Kaiju are inspired by Japanese movies like Godzilla, and as such I imagine them living in Tian Xia, not Avistan.
Doesn't mean you can't have kaiju or kaiju-sized monsters in Avistan, of course, and the Land of the Mammoth Lords seems like a good place for them since there's already giant stuff there, I suppose.
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Who came up with the name Azlant? I mean in-world and in real-life.
Erik Mona invented the word, deliberately spelling it so that it evokes a gut-reaction in the reader for its similarity to Atlantis.
In world, I don't believe we've revealed who came up with it, but it'd be someone at the dawn of the whole human empire that grew up on that continent, I guess, which is a topic I don't think we've ever explored in print.
However, if you really want to prove Golarion is "not a medieval world" like you have been saying, give some in-universe examples and reasons why please?
It has magic and monsters and takes inspiration from eras and regions far beyond medieval Europe.
The medieval world did not have magic, nor monsters, and the one I infer you're speaking of is a specific time period in European history.
My proof of in-universe examples that Golarion is a different place than the historical European medieval world exists in every product we publish. Pick any of them at random to find examples.
Yes, but what does any of that MATTER to the average dirt peasant? Does it improve his life? No in many ways it makes his life harder, to the point where Golarion's population densities as calculated from the settlement tables are almost an order of magnitude smaller than the population densities of Europe in the High Middle Ages (counting China/Japan to Tian Xia, two orders of magnitude).
Meanwhile, we, a purely technological society, enjoy incredibly advanced tech and luxuries almost to our eyeballs to make any Golarion noble's mansion look like a hovel. Beginning from Golarion's tech level, we did it in around 1000 years. Meanwhile, they have been stuck toiling in primitive savagery for what, over 6000 years counting from the last apocalypse?
Please explain this disparity?
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Please explain this disparity?
Artistic license, combined with you making selective choices to only support your argument when it comes to comparing parts of Golarion to the real world, and what appears to be a greater interest in winning an internet argument than actually hearing answers from me.
Seems like you prefer games not set in campaign settings like Golarion, though. Maybe a different game would be more to your liking?
Please explain this disparity?Artistic license, combined with you making selective choices to only support your argument when it comes to comparing parts of Golarion to the real world, and what appears to be a greater interest in winning an internet argument than actually hearing answers from me.
Seems like you prefer games not set in campaign settings like Golarion, though. Maybe a different game would be more to your liking?
Where have I made selective choices about "comparing parts of Golarion to the real world"? I am genuinely confused about this. Even the poorest person in Europe and USA is equivalent to a wealthy merchant from Golarion.
Can all the forces of Modern Earth kill a god like Iomedae or Cayden Cailean? What about a minor god?
Can all the forces of Modern Earth kill a god like Iomedae or Cayden Cailean? What about a minor god?No.
What about the forces of Starfinder?
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Where have I made selective choices about "comparing parts of Golarion to the real world"? I am genuinely confused about this. Even the poorest person in Europe and USA is equivalent to a wealthy merchant from Golarion.
Most of your questions do this.
For example, taking this question alone: you mention a "wealthy merchant." Looking PURELY at what we have in the rules, let's make a quick assumption about what a wealthy merchant is, based on the assumption that the 6 to 10 level band is where such a character would live (using the level spread listed for "Power Levels" on page 253 of the Inner Sea World Guide), since a "wealthy merchant" to me isn't a powerful character but is ceratinly a mover and shaker, and thus exceptional.
So, a 100% pedantic look at this results in the following.
The merchant goes to Earn Income on his +17 skill check. The DC for a 7th level Earn Income check is 23, so let's just assume that the merchant makes all of his checks automatically but never critically succeeds.
This earns him 2 gp and 5 sp for a day's work. That's 25 gp, assuming a 5 day work week, over a 2 week pay period.
A thousand coins counts as 1 bulk. And 1 bulk is about 5 to 10 pounds; let's assume it's 7.5 pounds for a thousand coins, since that's right in the middle of that range.
Unless my math is wrong (which it might be), that means 25 gold coins weighs 4.6875 pounds, or 75 ounces. Today's gold price is $1,854.94 per ounce. On the assumption that Golarion has solid gold coins, that means that for 2 weeks worth of 40 hour work weeks, this merchant has made $139.088.25. Which is a lot of money from where I'm sitting.
Obviously there's a lot of variables in that wall of text above behind the spoiler tag, but it's a pretty good indication that a wealthy merchant is not equal in wealth to the poorest person in Europe or the USA.
It's also a good example of how ridiculous it is to assume that there's a direct one to one correlation between Golarion and the Real World. There's a LOT of artistic license that happens between those two, be it how much buying power 25 gold coins has or whether or not a random person off the street would or wouldn't have a nervous breakdown if they met a dragon, etc.
ADDITION: I'm not looking for a response to this post. Please let this line of questions stop and let's move on to new topics.
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In any event, Carbonacreation, your questions are starting to bother others on this board and are getting a bit too distracting. At this point, if you can't keep your questions relatively simple and can't ask them in ways that aren't insulting, I need you to take a break from this thread for a while.
So Gauntlight and Malevolence are coming out mere months apart... How far apart were they written?
Since we are on the topic of statting things, how would you stat the equivalent of the wealthy merchant in Pathfinder 1e? Just give a barebones rundown like you just did.
I am also crazy excited for Godzilla vs Kong, and my theory about the movie lines up almost exactly with yours!
Other than the Legendary Pictures Godzilla franchise, are there any other modern Kaiju movies you'd recommend?
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I am also crazy excited for Godzilla vs Kong, and my theory about the movie lines up almost exactly with yours!
Other than the Legendary Pictures Godzilla franchise, are there any other modern Kaiju movies you'd recommend?
Cloverfield is the top of the list, and is one of my favorite kaiju movies of all time anyway.
All the recent Toho Godzilla movies are a blast too. Shin Godzilla's the most recent, and it's a really different type of Godzilla movie, tonally, but quite fascinating.
The Meg was a lot better than I thought it would be; good fun, that one!
I wouldn't really call The Mist a proper kaiju movie, but it has a few of them in there. Really creepy and devastating movie.
Colossal was a fun movie, but very VERY different than the standard kaiju movie.
Big Ass Spider! is a lot of fun.
Super 8 was quite good too.
Trollhunter kinda counts.
Monsters was quite good as well.
The Host is flat out one of the best kaiju movies ever, although that critter's a bit on the small side to really stand up to something like Godzilla.
Underwater is my most recent favorite giant monster movie.
I am also crazy excited for Godzilla vs Kong, and my theory about the movie lines up almost exactly with yours!
Other than the Legendary Pictures Godzilla franchise, are there any other modern Kaiju movies you'd recommend?
Cloverfield is the top of the list, and is one of my favorite kaiju movies of all time anyway.
All the recent Toho Godzilla movies are a blast too. Shin Godzilla's the most recent, and it's a really different type of Godzilla movie, tonally, but quite fascinating.
The Meg was a lot better than I thought it would be; good fun, that one!
I wouldn't really call The Mist a proper kaiju movie, but it has a few of them in there. Really creepy and devastating movie.
Colossal was a fun movie, but very VERY different than the standard kaiju movie.
Big Ass Spider! is a lot of fun.
Super 8 was quite good too.
Trollhunter kinda counts.
Monsters was quite good as well.
The Host is flat out one of the best kaiju movies ever, although that critter's a bit on the small side to really stand up to something like Godzilla.
Underwater is my most recent favorite giant monster movie.
Thanks for the suggestions! I haven't seen roughly half of these, so I'll watch them over the next few days.
Quick edit: Shin blew my expectations of what a Godzilla movie could be away.Just so I'm not breaking the questions rule, what is your favorite Toho movie?
What's a good campaign excuse to bring a good-aligned dragon(s) and a retinue of Ryphorians from Triaxis to Golarion? Things to think about: Did they arrive accidentally (i.e. experiment went awry), purposely (chasing time-traveling criminals)? Are they trapped on Golarion, or can they come and go to/from Golarion and Triaxus?
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Just so I'm not breaking the questions rule, what is your favorite Toho movie?
Seven Samurai is pretty well tied with the original Godzilla there. Since they share some actors and crew, though, I get to pick them both as my favorite Toho movie, yes?
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What's a good campaign excuse to bring a good-aligned dragon(s) and a retinue of Ryphorians from Triaxis to Golarion? Things to think about: Did they arrive accidentally (i.e. experiment went awry), purposely (chasing time-traveling criminals)? Are they trapped on Golarion, or can they come and go to/from Golarion and Triaxus?
We've not given reasons for that yet specifically to allow/encourage GMs to explore that on their own. I tend to avoid answering questions like this as a result, since I try not to step on GM creativity that way... at least, until we need to publish something in print.
I'm not sure if Starfinder's said anything more on the topic though.