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Freehold DM wrote:


Why sad? It makes me excited, actually. I think the fandom(i.e. fandoms in general) are a little spoiled in believing that the original source is the ONE TRUE WAY. The TV peeps should have a little room to make changes. I'm sure there are some things in the comic that would NOT have worked on screen, and I'd rather see something different than something watered down. Does that make any sense?

totally. I also am excited to see what different directions they might take it.

However, getting to the CDC seemed like a pretty momentous step for the group. I would've actually preferred to see them do a bit more of the day to day survival scenarios acted out in the first couple of books. I feel like the producers felt (and rightly so) like they needed "something big" at the end of the first season so they amped it up with CDC scenario.

I'm still excited to see where it goes. . .

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d13 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:


Why sad? It makes me excited, actually. I think the fandom(i.e. fandoms in general) are a little spoiled in believing that the original source is the ONE TRUE WAY. The TV peeps should have a little room to make changes. I'm sure there are some things in the comic that would NOT have worked on screen, and I'd rather see something different than something watered down. Does that make any sense?

totally. I also am excited to see what different directions they might take it.

However, getting to the CDC seemed like a pretty momentous step for the group. I would've actually preferred to see them do a bit more of the day to day survival scenarios acted out in the first couple of books. I feel like the producers felt (and rightly so) like they needed "something big" at the end of the first season so they amped it up with CDC scenario.

I'm still excited to see where it goes. . .

Again, as someone who hasn't read the comics, exactly what different directions are you looking forward to? Different from what? This statement makes no sense what so ever.

And side note, I guess you got a little bit of your answer about Shane tonight. ;-)

Edit: Obviously, I confused you with Daeglin. If you have read the books, then it is a perfectly valid view for you to have. I just don't happen to share it. ;-)


d13 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:


Why sad? It makes me excited, actually. I think the fandom(i.e. fandoms in general) are a little spoiled in believing that the original source is the ONE TRUE WAY. The TV peeps should have a little room to make changes. I'm sure there are some things in the comic that would NOT have worked on screen, and I'd rather see something different than something watered down. Does that make any sense?

totally. I also am excited to see what different directions they might take it.

However, getting to the CDC seemed like a pretty momentous step for the group. I would've actually preferred to see them do a bit more of the day to day survival scenarios acted out in the first couple of books. I feel like the producers felt (and rightly so) like they needed "something big" at the end of the first season so they amped it up with CDC scenario.

I'm still excited to see where it goes. . .

See, to me, the day to day stuff is something that I think wouldnt' work on TV. Especially in an hour long series. Eventually you'd lose viewers.


Freehold DM wrote:


See, to me, the day to day stuff is something that I think wouldnt' work on TV. Especially in an hour long series. Eventually you'd lose viewers.

I don't know. There are plenty of really compelling TV dramas that don't have much action in them. There is plenty of conflict within the story already, and watching people survive in an apocalyptic setting only heightens this. As long as the writing is good I'm fine without having to see the group get overrun by zombies every episode.

Now don't get me wrong, I do like it when the brains hit the fan, but in the end its going to be the people, not the zombies, that keep me watching.


I agree, Im completely digging the whole "end of civilization" angle that they seem to be working. If its diverging from the comics (which I havent read), it seems like its borrowing some ideas from WWZ. I love this show. I wonder if they set up the season finale in an indoor setting to help facilitate shooting for next season? (since its now winter and theyre leaving off in the summer time)

Did anyone else feel a little sweaty and swampy after watching the burial/cremating scenes? I hate winter.

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TheWhiteknife wrote:
I agree, Im completely digging the whole "end of civilization" angle that they seem to be working. If its diverging from the comics (which I havent read), it seems like its borrowing some ideas from WWZ. I love this show. I wonder if they set up the season finale in an indoor setting to help facilitate shooting for next season?

You're the second person to make thins comment, what ideas exactly are you referring to. (I've read WWZ, but it's been awhile.) The collapse of society and good people doing bad things for the greater good has always been a big part of The Walking Dead, which actually predates WWZ by three years. Of course that doesn't mean that individual writers aren't borrowing things, but it's also entirely possible that Brooks actually borrowed from The Walking Dead.


d13 wrote:
Also, I don't know what seasons are like in Georgia(where they film) but they may want to hold off until they are in the same season for continuity's sake. The camp scenes require a lot of outdoor shooting. Then they have to edit.

My brief 6 month experience in Augusta, Georgia(about an hour from Atlanta) was 115 degree heat near the end of summer (July - Sept.) and extremely windy, grey overcast and ice cold rain in the fall/early winter. (Oct. - Dec.). I think it may have flurried once as well. Just FYI. *shrug*

Mikaze wrote:
Darryl must have to sterilize the HELL out of those bolts if he hunts zombies and food with them. Hope for the sake of Mr. Buttshot that he used a fresh one. And seriously, after wiping a post-zombie-cranium bolt off on my pants even once, I would be ready to burn that pair and get some new clothes.

I also had that thought, almost IMMEDIATELY upon seeing him wipe a bolt off and reload. Infecting the food being the first thought, then infection seeping into his skin from his pant leg. I guess they debunked infection from smearing it on yourself with Rick and Glen though. *shrug*

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My thoughts:
I haven't seen the show as an end to civilization, but as more of an reset. I would gladly welcome such a reset as it would mean freedom from a corrupt economic system (the rich get richer, everyone else gets thrown under the bus) and an even more corrupt legal system (the rich (ex: celebrities) are never held accountable for their crimes) for at least a few decades, maybe longer.

The general lack of common sense is a bit disturbing, but not uncommon in my opinion. Surely those tanks weren't parked there and siphoned of their fuel... an ignition switch and 2 levers later you have a few hundred less zombies. They drive just like a bulldozer or even videogame tanks using an analog controller at this point.

The lack of technology and communication is there biggest enemy at the moment, which is why I think Darryl has found a place in the group despite having a similar personality as his brother.


Wolfthulhu wrote:
TheWhiteknife wrote:
I agree, Im completely digging the whole "end of civilization" angle that they seem to be working. If its diverging from the comics (which I havent read), it seems like its borrowing some ideas from WWZ. I love this show. I wonder if they set up the season finale in an indoor setting to help facilitate shooting for next season?
You're the second person to make thins comment, what ideas exactly are you referring to. (I've read WWZ, but it's been awhile.) The collapse of society and good people doing bad things for the greater good has always been a big part of The Walking Dead, which actually predates WWZ by three years. Of course that doesn't mean that individual writers aren't borrowing things, but it's also entirely possible that Brooks actually borrowed from The Walking Dead.

Of course I hadnt thought of the possibility that the comics came out before WWZ. I retract my statement. It seems that WWZ really seemed to borrow alot from walking dead.

Edit: some of the similarities of noticed are : A. The ineffectiveness of the military. (Tanks being useless as anything more than defensive cover and/or bulldozers) B. Zombies that attack anything alive, not just humans. (Makes finding food that much harder) C. The retreat and abandonment of the US Government ( I betcha the helicopter that Rick saw in episode 1 that hasnt ever been brought up since episode 2 belongs to the government. Reminds me of the solution that was used to end WWZ)

Silver Crusade

Oh man, looks like they've gone completely off the rails for the time being.

Loved:

Spoiler:

Glenn's stand on what to do with the dead.

Andrea's whole vigil.

Carol giving Darryl pause.

Keeping Jim's choice true to the comics. Poor ol' Jim. Character really struck me in the comics, and I'm happy with how it translated onto the screen.

I'm a little put off by the CDC looking like...I don't know. Some sci-fi lab from the 80's. Still, the whole bit outside was nice and tense. Really eager to see where they go with it next week.

No new episodes after that until next October? FDFDDFJDFDGDFDGDFDSFGDF

Sovereign Court

I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

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Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

You'd be surprised what some under-educated-grew-up-in-the-hills types might still say, even today. Rare, I'm sure but probably still out there. Though, I have to say. For all the backwoods redneck stereo type, I really like Darryl.

In other news: Blu-Ray/DVD release set for March 8. Price seems high for a 6 episode show, but of course I'll end up buying it anyway. At least I can gt a discount through Amazon.

Also: Frank Darabont fired the entire writing staff. Apparently the 'staff' only produced two of the six episodes. Two were done by Darabont and two more were freelance work.

Sovereign Court

Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

You obviously don't live in the deep south, Hell I've heard it not to long ago, in fact growing up the corner store in my town was called "the china-man's" despite the fact that it was literally named "the corner store" and i'm pretty sure they were korean. It doesn't take a lack of education as Wolfthulhu suggests, hell it doesn't even need to be "racist intent" my dad called it that, although he went fishing with the owners family and went to the store at least once a week. Doesn't make it right, but don't assume that everyone who may use racist language it a toothless back woods inbred type.


I wonder how many more zombie movies and shows will be, this is worse than vampires

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Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

All I know is that china-men is not the preferred nomenclature.

Now, who wants to go bowling?


lastknightleft wrote:
the corner store in my town was called "the china-man's" despite the fact that it was literally named "the corner store"

one part hilarious.

one part ridiculous.

hilari-diculous.

Sovereign Court

Sebastian wrote:
Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

All I know is that china-men is not the preferred nomenclature.

Now, who wants to go bowling?

Real cute.

How much is shoe rental?


Sebastian wrote:
Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

All I know is that china-men is not the preferred nomenclature.

Now, who wants to go bowling?

The china-man is not the issue here, Walter. Way off-topic now. Cant wait for sunday!

Shadow Lodge

The appeal of Zombies I think they are wish fulfilment scenarios in a lot of ways. Think about it, who doesn't want to be a hero (nobody pictures themselves as protozombie) and in some ways disasters releive stress.

I think a lot of people would, after a month or two, would be relieved. The guy stressing about their car payments or student loans any more and might be secretly be less stressed now that they're merely dealing with the walking dead. The social hierarchy would also be shaken up and that a#$^%hole brother who became a lawyer is no longer lording it over you.

Personally, I think a lot of us wouldn't mind a things falling a part a bit, at least as long as it's fiction.

As for the series,no cable,watched first episode online, read the comic. Like what they are doing.

Sovereign Court

Wolfthulhu wrote:
Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

You'd be surprised what some under-educated-grew-up-in-the-hills types might still say, even today. Rare, I'm sure but probably still out there. Though, I have to say. For all the backwoods redneck stereo type, I really like Darryl.

In other news: Blu-Ray/DVD release set for March 8. Price seems high for a 6 episode show, but of course I'll end up buying it anyway. At least I can gt a discount through Amazon.

Also: Frank Darabont fired the entire writing staff. Apparently the 'staff' only produced two of the six episodes. Two were done by Darabont and two more were freelance work.

I dont know about owning this series. It does seem like a steep price for 6 episodes. I myself cant shake that made for TV feeling reminds me a lot of the stand for some reason. I didn't make it past the first volume of the comics either it was kind of corny.

I guess I keep watching because I like zombie stuff. It has been way too long since anyone has done anything remarkable with the genre. I would save my money I have a feeling there will be a lot of access to this series after its over. (netflix)

Liberty's Edge

Pan wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

You'd be surprised what some under-educated-grew-up-in-the-hills types might still say, even today. Rare, I'm sure but probably still out there. Though, I have to say. For all the backwoods redneck stereo type, I really like Darryl.

In other news: Blu-Ray/DVD release set for March 8. Price seems high for a 6 episode show, but of course I'll end up buying it anyway. At least I can gt a discount through Amazon.

Also: Frank Darabont fired the entire writing staff. Apparently the 'staff' only produced two of the six episodes. Two were done by Darabont and two more were freelance work.

I dont know about owning this series. It does seem like a steep price for 6 episodes. I myself cant shake that made for TV feeling reminds me a lot of the stand for some reason. I didn't make it past the first volume of the comics either it was kind of corny.

I guess I keep watching because I like zombie stuff. It has been way too long since anyone has done anything remarkable with the genre. I would save my money I have a feeling there will be a lot of access to this series after its over. (netflix)

$9.99 for standard definition on iTunes $14.99 for the season. Each has additional behind the scenes documentaries for each episode and a few other extras.

Sean

Sovereign Court

thenorthman wrote:
Pan wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
Pan wrote:
I just have to ask... Who says "china-men" anymore?

You'd be surprised what some under-educated-grew-up-in-the-hills types might still say, even today. Rare, I'm sure but probably still out there. Though, I have to say. For all the backwoods redneck stereo type, I really like Darryl.

In other news: Blu-Ray/DVD release set for March 8. Price seems high for a 6 episode show, but of course I'll end up buying it anyway. At least I can gt a discount through Amazon.

Also: Frank Darabont fired the entire writing staff. Apparently the 'staff' only produced two of the six episodes. Two were done by Darabont and two more were freelance work.

I dont know about owning this series. It does seem like a steep price for 6 episodes. I myself cant shake that made for TV feeling reminds me a lot of the stand for some reason. I didn't make it past the first volume of the comics either it was kind of corny.

I guess I keep watching because I like zombie stuff. It has been way too long since anyone has done anything remarkable with the genre. I would save my money I have a feeling there will be a lot of access to this series after its over. (netflix)

$9.99 for standard definition on iTunes $14.99 for the season. Each has additional behind the scenes documentaries for each episode and a few other extras.

Sean

Thats not bad. Better than the 39.99 from the other link. However its still not worth buying IMO.

The Exchange

Disappointed, to say the least. Not real surprised though.

Sovereign Court

So i missed the last two episodes, anyone care to give me a synopsis, go ahead and put it in a spoiler.

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