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Guys, the boards are acting up and I've lost several posts to the post monster's hunger. :) I'm gonna try to reply to you all during the day.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1
Zariah wrote:
Preliminary background is up as well. She could easily tie in with anyone who's been on the Korvosan streets the last few years.

For Zariah:
We might have know each other as competition (both street performers) back when i was younger. Unlikely that we danced together though... Asasha's more of a tomboy, and unlikely to show some skin like you (besides which she was only about 13 when she gave up performing for thievery). Maybe she worked the crowd as a pickpocket whilst you performed and shared the take with you? - depends on timing of when you were performing etc. (by my calculations i'm 4 years younger than you.) Maybe we met through Katalin - He's about your age?

Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

For Asasha

Spoiler:

I can definitely see the Dance/pickpocketing scam working for them both up to the point where Asasha disappeared from the city. It would be a rare thing for Zariah to come across someone she actually trusts.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1
Zariah wrote:

For Asasha

** spoiler omitted **

let's lock it in


Male

Well, seems like everyone is getting along and spinning backgrounds together. Galrion is originally from Korvosa and lift there... but seeing my age, none of you were even born when he was there. He left at quite young age to travel and see world and came back now about couple months before home to see family after long years and what has happened so far.

I am also totally fine with variant defense system. It´s more than perfect considering my priest style and clothing. Trying to find a way to get to know you guys


Male 1/2 elf Rogue 1

Kristophe has worked in Korvosa for the past few years at many places as a guard...The docks, Old Korvosa, Eel's end, so anyone who spent any time there might be familiar with him at least.


Female Elf (Forlorn) Witch 1; 6/6 hp; AC: 12, (Touch 12, FF 10); F +1, R +2, W +3, Perc +3/+5 Init +2

If any of you had needed to get treated for various sicknesses,you may have run into me as I took care of your needs, but you probably didn't enjoy it too much, he he.


Male Human Summoner 1
Kristophe wrote:
Kristophe has worked in Korvosa for the past few years at many places as a guard...The docks, Old Korvosa, Eel's end, so anyone who spent any time there might be familiar with him at least.

Old Korvosa, and guard? It's almost like you were meant to hook into mine, if only the smallest bit. It's very possible you might've known Valeria, since she was stationed in Old Korvosa for training and duty.

Go ahead and check my background - if you want, that can definitely be arranged.

EDIT: Also, since you mention 'many places', it could be you've known both of us. After all, the big ceremonies that are sometimes held at the Acadamae require many guards...


Male

Galrian is finally ready with everything. Just equipment missing, but I can fix that quite fast since going only with his glaive and some fashion clothes :P After all, this "old" playboy might have been catching some eyes or all the "females" have heard about him. Maybe some recent news, since when he came back to Korvosa, he has turned his eye to Shelyn and trying to reach her and women want to see this themself (and especially those old ones / younger ones he was.. cough, dating before leaving for his own reasons) :D


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
Kristophe wrote:
Kristophe has worked in Korvosa for the past few years at many places as a guard...The docks, Old Korvosa, Eel's end, so anyone who spent any time there might be familiar with him at least.

You may know my mother. She works at Eel's End. I'm just getting back into town though.


Male Danisil - Evil Subtype Wildlander/1 Rogue/2

Right then, doing the background now. Be nice to somehow link it in with some other peoples. Lem is a failed travelling tincture salesman. Lem is Lem because I love the avatar and I think it looks remarkably like Lemmy from Motorhead.


Male Tiefling - Daemon Spawn Alchemist 1

And again. Posts just keep disappearing. Basis for my character. I'll post up a basic background in a little while. Also, Lem is named Lem purely because I love the avatar and he looks like Lemmy.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp

Ezekiel:

Though I don't see how we could have known each other before, I'm sure we will get along grandly, as how I am somewhat going to be a priest of Desna.
Spoiler:

[spoiler=Galrian]
As a somewhat trained priest of Desna we have much in common. Desna and Shelyn are close allies from what I understand.

[spoiler=Zariah]
I too am a fortune teller, though I do it more as sport and less for income. I also never give bad news so likely if we have run into each other there is likely a tiny bit of animosity, who would go to a fortune teller who gives fortunes of good and bad, when they can go to one who only gives good and probably does so for free, though I do accept tips. Though I haven't been on Korvosa in 5 years so the feelings would be dull if there ever where any, and if you did know Ashasha her and I were close so it couldn't have been much to begin with.

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Okay, guys, roll-call. Let's see how many of you are there.


Female Elf (Forlorn) Witch 1; 6/6 hp; AC: 12, (Touch 12, FF 10); F +1, R +2, W +3, Perc +3/+5 Init +2

Present


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp

I'm here.

Also I just posted this, but post monster struck. Luckily I have gotten into the habit of copying anything before hitting submit.

Ezekiel:

Though I don't see how we could have known each other before, I'm sure we will get along grandly, as how I am somewhat going to be a priest of Desna.

Galrian:

As a somewhat trained priest of Desna we have much in common. Desna and Shelyn are close allies from what I understand.

Zariah:

I too am a fortune teller, though I do it more as sport and less for income. I also never give bad news so likely if we have run into each other there is likely a tiny bit of animosity, who would go to a fortune teller who gives fortunes of good and bad, when they can go to one who only gives good and probably does so for free, though I do accept tips. Though I haven't been on Korvosa in 5 years so the feelings would be dull if there ever where any, and if you did know Ashasha her and I were close so it couldn't have been much to begin with.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp

Also here is a consolidated list of open questions

Do I have enough background for the "Harrower" background feat?

Can I use the variable bonuses from UA for my d20 rolls, based on no objections from the group?

Can we use the class defense option from UA instead of armor?

How will we be determining starting gold?

Is the Heirloom Weapon Trait a legal option?

Is the oversized 2-weapon fighting from complete adventurer a legal option?

Approval needed for background interactions.

I will see if there are more but this is all I can think of.


Male 1/2 elf Rogue 1

Kristophe is here, but he's so sneaky you probably can't see him.


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

I'm here

Sounds good Katallin.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1

Signing in,...

P.S. Is my background good enough to get a gold star? - It's still being modified to incoroporate some other player backgrounds (Kat and Zariah so far).

Also,... how much starting $ do we get?

Really looking forward to this game!

Kat and Zariah:

So i was thinking that maybe you guys were in a gang together (since you're about the same age) and i was adopted into the gang as a little-sister / mascot.

It's possible that it was my mother who taught Zariah how to read cards, dance and sing in traditional Varisian styles (see my background) - maybe that's how i was introduced into the "gang"?

What do you guys think?


Male Tiefling - Daemon Spawn Alchemist 1

Here.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp

Asha and Zeriah:
All of us being Varisian and growing up in old town certainly makes sense that we have joined together, after my time served under Viraj. I know in Korvosa Varisian people are looked down upon, and Desna teaches to protect anyone who is being oppressed. So that is a somewhat likely scenario. It also throws more moral ambiguity into my background before becoming a pirate. It also leads to a much more profound change of heart in my case when I decide that pirate life and my calling to follow Desna are at odds with each other. There would then be a bit of friendly rivalry between me and Zeriah instead of animosity. She's probably a much better fortune teller than I am but I always tell the good and skip over the bad(or maybe as a Desnian I can't even read bad fortunes?)so people like my fotunes better.


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)
Asasha wrote:

Signing in,...

P.S. Is my background good enough to get a gold star? - It's still being modified to incoroporate some other player backgrounds (Kat and Zariah so far).

Also,... how much starting $ do we get?

Really looking forward to this game!

** spoiler omitted **

Asasha and Katallin

Spoiler:

I like it, I'll start working it into the background. There'll aslo be an element of you all left and I stayed to her initial attitude. She's made a name for herself in the seedier parts of town but she'll wonder if she should have left.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
Gods and Magic wrote:
Her(Desna) holy text is The Eight Scrolls, which is short enough to easily fit in two scroll cases.

I will also need a price on how much these religious texts will cost.


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

Added to Zariah's background.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1
Zariah wrote:
Added to Zariah's background.

Also added to Asasha's background - with links :)


Male Human Vanguard

I'm here and Cyra will have a post up soon and now I just need to get my character done prolly be tomorrow or the day after.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
Asasha wrote:
Zariah wrote:
Added to Zariah's background.
Also added to Asasha's background - with links :)

Spoiler:
I will update mine later, but basic changes are that I was the enforcer of the group so to speak. Whenever we got into trouble(which seemed a daily occurrence to me cause I always had to deal with the consequences) I was the one who stayed behind to cover your escapes(and my brother's). So even though I was somewhat a moral compass of the group and rarely actually did any stealing(more because I was not very good at it then an outright objection to it) I was the one who always got caught. My mother never knew how much involvement Kazitel had until after she agreed to send me away with Viraj to try and keep me from turning into a bad kid.

Male Human Summoner 1

Sorry to be late - was out being social with my friends for the evening.

As I asked before in an earlier post - would it be a problem to have the weapon/shield I placed on the eidolon able to be 'banished' with it when it leaves? It would certainly make more sense in some respects, but if you choose not to, I understand entirely.

On another note - is my background enough for the feat I listed for it?

EDIT: Katallin:

Show:

I'm sure we will, seeing as he sounds to firmly believe in 'dreams come true' and so forth! It will indeed be entertaining when someone tries to tell him it isn't really her...


Male

Here, Here


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

Linked my background as well.

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Okay, so we have:

Shol'a'saul
Katalin
Kristophe
Zariah
Asasha
Lem
Ezekiel
Galrian

The boards were impossible to use, at least for me, so I haven't reviewed your characters yet. I'll begin tonight, going by the list above.


Male Human Vanguard

You missed mine and cyra's which will be done by the end of the night


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp

background updated with links. Also added the variable bonus dice after the static bonuses in the character sheet to give you an idea of what it would look like if you let me use it. An example would be:

Attack with falchion, using power attack.
Attack:1d20 + 1d12 ⇒ (9) + (7) = 16
Damage: 2d4 + 9 ⇒ (4, 3) + 9 = 16

or:
Knowledge(religion):1d20 + 1d10 ⇒ (9) + (3) = 12


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1

For Kat:

I've added a personality spoiler to my profile which has some stuff about our interaction. Just FYI.


Male Human Vanguard

Well mostly done just got to finish history you can read what's there its just unfinished


Male Human Vanguard

Can anyone tell me what the lv1 one difference is for the swashbuckler archetype please?


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
Kythvanath "Ryuu" wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the lv1 one difference is for the swashbuckler archetype please?

Here's the whole text:

Swashbuckler:
Sw ashbuckler
A paragon of mobile swordplay, the swashbuckler is a
rogue who focuses almost exclusively on honing her
skill at arms and perfecting daring acrobatic moves and
elaborate f lourishes that border on performance.
Martial Training (Ex): At 1st level, the swashbuckler
may select one martial weapon to add to her list of
weapon prof iciencies. In addition, she may take the
combat trick rogue talent up to two times. This ability
replaces trapfinding.
Daring (Ex): At 3rd level, a swashbuckler gains a +1
morale bonus on Acrobatics checks and saving throws
against fear. This bonus increases by +1 for every 3 levels
beyond 3rd. This ability replaces trap sense.
Rogue Talents: The following rogue talents complement
the swashbuckler archetype: offensive defense, positioning
attack, powerful sneak, and weapon training*.
Advanced Talents: The following advanced rogue talents
complement the swashbuckler archetype: crippling strike*,
entanglement of blades, and redirect attack.


Male Human Vanguard

thank you my good sir. Pleasure doing business with you. hands over 1 gp


Here's my character just need to do her history and appearance and then it should be done she is a swashbuckler rogue archetype.


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

Looking good guys, it's like revenge of the street rats!


Male Daytona 500 DM / 12

Geez with this many rogues we'll be tripping over each other to disarm traps. What happened to the Paladin? So much for unique characters. Also don't mean to be persnickety, but has Nightflier approved the Class Defense bonus, or the oversize two weapon fighting, or the variable ability bonus.

I don't know about everybody else, but my biggest problem with 3.5 was rules glut where you had options for everything, and problem feats. It seems to me we're turning this from Pathfinder back to 3.5. It seems some of the characters are based on things that haven't been OK'd yet.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1
scranford wrote:
It seems some of the characters are based on things that haven't been OK'd yet.

+1

By the way, given the large numbers of rogues i'm thinking of multiclassing into something depending on how the game goes. - Difficult from a background perspective with this character though... she's pretty stereotyped!


Male Daytona 500 DM / 12
Asasha wrote:
scranford wrote:
It seems some of the characters are based on things that haven't been OK'd yet.

+1

By the way, given the large numbers of rogues i'm thinking of multiclassing into something depending on how the game goes. - Difficult from a background perspective with this character though... she's pretty stereotyped!

Yeah. I'm multiclassing as illusionist or Diviner at next level. Headed for Arcane Trickster.


Female Human Oracle (Flame) 1
scranford wrote:
Yeah. I'm multiclassing as illusionist or Diviner at next level. Headed for Arcane Trickster.

That was one of my options! - damn you! :)


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
scranford wrote:

Geez with this many rogues we'll be tripping over each other to disarm traps. What happened to the Paladin? So much for unique characters. Also don't mean to be persnickety, but has Nightflier approved the Class Defense bonus, or the oversize two weapon fighting, or the variable ability bonus.

I don't know about everybody else, but my biggest problem with 3.5 was rules glut where you had options for everything, and problem feats. It seems to me we're turning this from Pathfinder back to 3.5. It seems some of the characters are based on things that haven't been OK'd yet.

As far as class defense bonus goes it has nothing to do with my character, I hadn't even remembered it existed until it was brought up. Yeah it would make more sense that an ex-pirate would not wear armor, but I was originally trained by a paladin so it's not a huge issue if I have to wear armor, it just means I won't be as good with the falchion as I would be with it, since I do have to spend some time training to wear armor(me taking the weapon master archtype is dependent on class defense donus but otherwise nothing changes about my character.) Either way is fine by me.

As far as the variable mods, it has no effect on my character, and extremely low impact on the game. I have never gotten to use it at the table because figuring out what dice to use when ever your bonuses change, and the math of 1d20 + 1d12 - 1d8 is too time consuming at the table, but here in this format it would have no time impact. I just like rolling dice and think espicially for a character based around luck it makes sense. Again if the dm or anyone else doesn't like it then I don't use it and nothing about my character changes and it's no big deal. I'm sure it won't be my last chance.

Other than that everything I chose is from APG or core.

Sorry if this comes off as defensive but I do get a little defensive when I feel like people are accusing me of power gaming, especially in a RP group. I know it shouldn't matter but people frown on power gamers for some reason, and my roots are in power gaming, as that was how my first group that I played in for two years was run so it's kinda like my dark secret. It's like when trailer trash get some money and they have chip on their shoulders to prove that they're better than white trash, but then go home and drink a forty of steel reserve and watch NASCAR(no offense to NASCAR fans). Not saying that you're accusing anyone of anything, it just struck a nerve.

why can't I get the smaller tag to work?


Male Daytona 500 DM / 12
The Great Katallin wrote:
scranford wrote:

Geez with this many rogues we'll be tripping over each other to disarm traps. What happened to the Paladin? So much for unique characters. Also don't mean to be persnickety, but has Nightflier approved the Class Defense bonus, or the oversize two weapon fighting, or the variable ability bonus.

I don't know about everybody else, but my biggest problem with 3.5 was rules glut where you had options for everything, and problem feats. It seems to me we're turning this from Pathfinder back to 3.5. It seems some of the characters are based on things that haven't been OK'd yet.

As far as class defense bonus goes it has nothing to do with my character, I hadn't even remembered it existed until it was brought up. Yeah it would make more sense that an ex-pirate would not wear armor, but I was originally trained by a paladin so it's not a huge issue if I have to wear armor, it just means I won't be as good with the falchion as I would be with it, since I do have to spend some time training to wear armor(me taking the weapon master archtype is dependent on class defense donus but otherwise nothing changes about my character.) Either way is fine by me.

As far as the variable mods, it has no effect on my character, and extremely low impact on the game. I have never gotten to use it at the table because figuring out what dice to use when ever your bonuses change, and the math of 1d20 + 1d12 - 1d8 is too time consuming at the table, but here in this format it would have no time impact. I just like rolling dice and think espicially for a character based around luck it makes sense. Again if the dm or anyone else doesn't like it then I don't use it and nothing about my character changes and it's no big deal. I'm sure it won't be my last chance.

Other than that everything I chose is from APG or core.

Sorry if this comes off as defensive but I do get a little defensive when I feel like people are accusing me of power gaming, especially in a RP group. I know...

No problem. It really wasn't aimed at you, or any particular character in general. I've just seen this destroy games in the past, because when you set a precedent of letting in optional rules, it tends to take on a life of it's own. You get players saying "You let so-and-so do this why can't I do this". and more time is spent defending and justifying powers than playing. I think there are game systems designed for this type of play. Hero, Gurps, Savage Worlds etc, and I enjoy them, but to me Pathfinder is a Class / level system, and when you start messing with the RAW, you start creating mayhem.


Male Human Fighter 1 35xp
scranford wrote:
No problem. It really wasn't aimed at you, or any particular character in general. I've just seen this destroy games in the past, because when you set a precedent of letting in optional rules, it tends to take on a life of it's own. You get players saying "You let so-and-so do this why can't I do this". and more time is spent defending and justifying powers than playing. I think there are game systems designed for this type of play. Hero, Gurps, Savage Worlds etc, and I enjoy them, but to me Pathfinder is a Class / level system, and when you start messing with the RAW, you start creating mayhem.

I really didn't think you were. This is just my first pbp and I am a little extra sensitive to criticism being the new kid and all. It also doesn't help that i've been lurking the pathfinder boards for awhile now and I have to say there seems to be a lot of openly hostile people here. More than I remember from the Wizards boards back when I used to lurk there.

edit: god I can't type tonight now that you got me all fired up j/k


Female Goddess blessed human Oracle 1 ((hp 9/12; AC 13, t 13, ff 10; Fort +2, Ref +3. Will +1; Init +3; Perception -1 (beyond 30ft autofail)

Nightflier's a talented DM who has a good handle on what works, what doesn't and how to handle balance. I'd let him worry about other people's characters. I applaud everyone gettinginto the game by completing characters and interweaving backstory, it shows genuine enthusiasm, the mark of a campaign that won't die in a week.

If anything's not approved we'll all just as easily modify it.

Besides, it's one thing where a single player want class defence bonus and everyone else uses armor, that unbalances the available cash per character, but when it work for everyone that's fine in fact it exists for campaigns where the characters are unlikely to wear armor yet know how to not get themselves killed.

We're all here to have fun, let's not start rules lawyering before the DM's even put in his 2 cents.

Yeah, there's a lot of rogues but it's also a perfect opportunity to really see how the APG class options can redefine the classes to create drastically different characters.

Just because a few people have similar concepts for a city based game doen't mean they're clones. A comment like so much for unique characters, comes off as elitist and insulting, and makes people feel as if they have to defend their character concept. I hope that's not what you were going for.

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