APG Alt Racial Favored Class Issue

[Mirror, Mirror]

First of all, thanks to Paizo for the APG. It's a great read and I enjoyed meeting James, Jason, Erik, Lisa, and everyone else at GenCon.
/fanboygush

Now, the human alt FC option for Sorcerers. WTF!! I must be reading it wrong, because it sounds a lot like every level a human sorcerer has the option of adding a spell to his list of spells known as long as it is at least 1 level lower than the max level he can cast.

Which, ignoring cantrips, effectively adds 17 spells known to the sorcerer. IMO, that's just TOO good. Sorcerers have always had issues with the whole "known" list, and they are not on par with Wizards in terms of varied utility spells, but an additional 2 spells at every level (sans 9th) goes a long way towards evening those odds. Especially with spont casting.

Now, I may be wrong in my reading of the ability, or there may be a misprint. If someone knows something I don't, could they please steer me in the correct direction? Thanks.

[sieylianna]

Mirror, Mirror wrote:

Which, ignoring cantrips, effectively adds 17 spells known to the sorcerer. IMO, that's just TOO good. Sorcerers have always had issues with the whole "known" list, and they are not on par with Wizards in terms of varied utility spells, but an additional 2 spells at every level (sans 9th) goes a long way towards evening those odds. Especially with spont casting.

Pathfinder sorcerers are too weak relative to wizards because they have the same crappy skill list that they did in 3.5 and they can't pick up loads of skills because Intelligence isn't their stat for casting. With speciailization and an arcane focus, the difference in spells per day between a sorcerer and a wizard is minimal and sorcerers get everything a level later.

I'd have liked to have seen more of the races get the same favored class bonus for sorcerer, oracle, etc as humans.

[Mirror, Mirror]

My larger issue, though, is that the bonus blows out of the water any other FC bonus. HP or SP? No thanks, Ill take another SPELL, thank you.

[Austin Morgan]

People should really start using the "search" function for these message boards.

There's about 10 other threads completely dedicated to complaining about the Human Sorcerer Favored Class bonus. Post in one of those.

[Mirror, Mirror]

Austin Morgan wrote:

People should really start using the "search" function for these message boards.

There's about 10 other threads completely dedicated to complaining about the Human Sorcerer Favored Class bonus. Post in one of those.

And now that I have spent a bloody hour LOOKING for said threads, could someone be so kind as to put a link in? It does not appear to be in the General forum or the Paizo products forum. "APG Sorcerer" and "Alt Favored Class" doesn't bring up anything meaningful in the search function either.

At least tell me what to search for, please?

[Zurai]

I'd rather have the HP than more low-level random utility spells, myself.

[King of Vrock]

Mirror, Mirror wrote:

Austin Morgan wrote:

People should really start using the "search" function for these message boards.

There's about 10 other threads completely dedicated to complaining about the Human Sorcerer Favored Class bonus. Post in one of those.

And now that I have spent a bloody hour LOOKING for said threads, could someone be so kind as to put a link in? It does not appear to be in the General forum or the Paizo products forum. "APG Sorcerer" and "Alt Favored Class" doesn't bring up anything meaningful in the search function either.

At least tell me what to search for, please?

When in doubt search Jason Bulmahn's profile for recent posts...

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--Vrock on!