Good religious groups and good knightly orders


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I'm collecting references in Pathfinder products to good religious organizations, good knightly orders, and similar groups associated with the good deities of our campaign setting. We'll be discussing them in a future book and I want to be sure we don't miss any obscure sources.

If you know of any, please post them here.

Thanks! :)

Sovereign Court

Those Hellknights from Cheliax that keep the downtrodden in their place so they don't get ideas above their station... Sounds like a good organisation to me :).

On a serious note, i'll have a think and post as many obscure ones as I can later.

Silver Crusade

The Dawncult kind of walked a fine line throughout history, haven't they?

Certain church entities in the Mendevian Crusades could qualify, if they aren't taken as a whole with all Mendevian crusaders. The paladin order in The Demon Within were certainly good folk. Not so much the people persecuting the hell out of the natives...

Didn't Desna have some organized resistance groups operating in Nidal? I'm fairly sure there was one detailed in Cities of Golarion.

Desna's Lyrune-Quah among the Shoanti is more of a culture, but maybe the Moon Maidens could be fleshed out.

Exploring the "heretical" female-focused adherents of Erastil introduced in Seekers of Secrets could be nice too.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16

the valkyrie messenger ladies on their pegasi from the Linnorm lands would probably qualify.

The annoying tendency of many writers to want to corrupt good societies because it's 'cool' makes it hard to make lasting good knightly orders, I've noticed.

==Aelryinth

Shadow Lodge

Agreed. I had a few I made up a while ago if your interested.


Mikaze wrote:
Didn't Desna have some organized resistance groups operating in Nidal? I'm fairly sure there was one detailed in Cities of Golarion.

Yes, the Whispered Song.

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
We'll be discussing them in a future book and I want to be sure we don't miss any obscure sources.

BTW Sean, I loved your work on Champions of Valor for the Forgotten Realms.

Sovereign Court

Aelryinth wrote:

the valkyrie messenger ladies on their pegasi from the Linnorm lands would probably qualify.

The annoying tendency of many writers to want to corrupt good societies because it's 'cool' makes it hard to make lasting good knightly orders, I've noticed.

==Aelryinth

I would not go as far as "annoying" but yeah, there it is.

Sometimes a good order, should be a GOOD order. Really. Genuine.

Does not mean they have to go through the PCs whims because they are good though.

Anyways, for a change, I like adventures where the good guys are really, truly good (even if possibly misguided), but there is black sheep in the lot to betray the rest.

After all, IRL, there are plenty of good people, but they don't always get the correct info they'd need to act properly on time.

I remember the module in Lastwall, I liked it, but I'd like something like this, but more subtle too.

Silver Crusade

Peasant Railgun wrote:

Yes, the Whispered Song.

Thanks!

Also, while this thing is still in the really early stages, could we please have a good groups based in the Mwangi(made primarily of the native peoples being good and of their own culture rather than being people having to bring good into the Mwangi Expanse. We have plenty of neutral guys and a large number of demon worshippers. It would be nice to see some folks from that area kicking it for good just as much as any armor-clad Lastwall paladin.

Same thing for Jalmeray really. Jalmeray really needs more love.

It's just, we know that there's going to be Andoren(@#$% YEAH) guys and all of the other Avistanian exemplars of good. I'd just like to see some Mwangi, Vudrani, Keleshite, and Garundi examples of Good Guys portrayed in equal measure as well.

I'm still a bit let down from the lack of art of Mwangi people in the Mwangi Expanse book, I guess.


Well this future book will be cool

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Mikaze wrote:
Peasant Railgun wrote:

Yes, the Whispered Song.

Thanks!

Also, while this thing is still in the really early stages, could we please have a good groups based in the Mwangi(made primarily of the native peoples being good and of their own culture rather than being people having to bring good into the Mwangi Expanse. We have plenty of neutral guys and a large number of demon worshippers. It would be nice to see some folks from that area kicking it for good just as much as any armor-clad Lastwall paladin.

Same thing for Jalmeray really. Jalmeray really needs more love.

It's just, we know that there's going to be Andoren(@#$% YEAH) guys and all of the other Avistanian exemplars of good. I'd just like to see some Mwangi, Vudrani, Keleshite, and Garundi examples of Good Guys portrayed in equal measure as well.

I'm still a bit let down from the lack of art of Mwangi people in the Mwangi Expanse book, I guess.

Right now we're--er, Sean is--looking for existing references, rather than making new ones up. But those are good suggestions.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16

I'm wondering what our eugenics-endorsing LG gold dragon has organized for a Knighthood. Heh.

==Aelryinth

Sovereign Court

Mikaze wrote:
Peasant Railgun wrote:

Yes, the Whispered Song.

Thanks!

Also, while this thing is still in the really early stages, could we please have a good groups based in the Mwangi(made primarily of the native peoples being good and of their own culture rather than being people having to bring good into the Mwangi Expanse. We have plenty of neutral guys and a large number of demon worshippers. It would be nice to see some folks from that area kicking it for good just as much as any armor-clad Lastwall paladin.

Same thing for Jalmeray really. Jalmeray really needs more love.

It's just, we know that there's going to be Andoren(@#$% YEAH) guys and all of the other Avistanian exemplars of good. I'd just like to see some Mwangi, Vudrani, Keleshite, and Garundi examples of Good Guys portrayed in equal measure as well.

I'm still a bit let down from the lack of art of Mwangi people in the Mwangi Expanse book, I guess.

Not to go too of topic, but the most successful/popular classes in the MWangi should probably be those that grant immunity to disease and poison. Which means Paladins should be all over the place.


Not that it needs stating, but I'd REALLY like to learn more about the Knights of Ozem of Shining Crusade fame. Ideally NOT being a PrC, but a fleshed out chunk of flavor text, perhaps some alternate class features, and a good detailing of their history since the fall of the Whispering Tyrant.


Well, now we at least know which book he was talking about. :)

Liberty's Edge

TheWarriorPoet519 wrote:
Not that it needs stating, but I'd REALLY like to learn more about the Knights of Ozem of Shining Crusade fame. Ideally NOT being a PrC, but a fleshed out chunk of flavor text, perhaps some alternate class features, and a good detailing of their history since the fall of the Whispering Tyrant.

+1

I agree, besides Our Lady (Iomedae for those who need the reference) hails from their lines, and the servants of the Red Crusader deserve a better destiny that their dead goddess.

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