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"Thought it was going to be larger" ... in the nude? For TOTP.

Liberty's Edge

Urizen wrote:
"Thought it was going to be larger" ... in the nude? For TOTP.

Nice. :)


I'm with you now. Except for the "in the nude part."

Liberty's Edge

New episode of my radio show is up on the blog.


Spare me a fig leaf and we'll be fine.


Studpuffin wrote:
Treppa wrote:

So, freezing rain for tomorrow, followed up by 8-20 inches of snow, all ending Wednesday - maybe.

And our anniversary is Tuesday.

Snowed in on an anniversary shouldn't be so bad. We should really go hit up the grocery store before it snows us in.

I hope it's a great night for you guys regardless!

Scarab Sages

Another wonderful work week, and more snow to "look forward" to.

Damn that Freehold DM!

Scarab Sages

My work is done here. I'm needed elsewhere now. I'm needed wherever outlaws rule the West, wherever innocent women and children are afraid to walk the streets, wherever a man cannot live in simple dignity, wherever a people cry out for justice.


Ugh.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Ugh.

Monday....


Ugh is right. My eyes do not want to comfortably wear contacts right now, so I'm continuing to wear glasses these morning. Ralphie from A Christmas Story is calling me and wants them back. Blergh.

Going to need some PC inspiration. Last week in our Tuesday campaign, it seemed that the party went in two different directions when it came to an impasse that the 'Adventurer's Guild' was seized and rolled into the city militia under terms of martial law. Several players decided to allow themselves to be conscripted for the upcoming war whilst others wanted to be conscientious objectors ... or more specifically ... they don't want to be involved in a war where their characters have no concerns in. But for those characters, they'll have to find a new means of employment and/or income as the original means to do so has now passed them.

This has caused a situation where he's planning on running concurrent story lines. Since the war portion will take more time to plan and to decide how he wants to run mass vs. individual combat, it will take a backseat for awhile. Therefore, we're going to run the separate arc with the PCs not involving themselves in the upcoming war (for now). Since my Swordsage/Barbarian/Scout is a fighting machine, he volunteered for conscription. So I need to come up with a new PC for tomorrow evening.

As it stands, there's a Ranger and a Cleric/Druid who are good aligned. There's also a Fighter who's NE. Not sure if we'll have our Wizard in this party as he ended up doing something stupid at the end of the previous session and got himself locked up. Myself and one other guy in the group were the only ones who essentially have to come up with new PCs.

I was a couple hundred XP shy of 8th level, so I get to put together the new one at exactly that point. I expect him to level-up mid adventure, so I'm going to put together in mind as if the PC will be 8th level so I don't have much downtime and can smoothly transition mid-play.

Need inspiration! We are playing 3.5; the WotC resources are wide open. I assume Green Ronin is too because one of the players has been playing an Unholy Warrior (which is going to be interesting because we've been trying to get that player off the 'must always play EEVVIILLL characters' kick).

Scarab Sages

Urizen wrote:

Ugh is right. My eyes do not want to comfortably wear contacts right now, so I'm continuing to wear glasses these morning. Ralphie from A Christmas Story is calling me and wants them back. Blergh.

Going to need some PC inspiration. Last week in our Tuesday campaign, it seemed that the party went in two different directions when it came to an impasse that the 'Adventurer's Guild' was seized and rolled into the city militia under terms of martial law. Several players decided to allow themselves to be conscripted for the upcoming war whilst others wanted to be conscientious objectors ... or more specifically ... they don't want to be involved in a war where their characters have no concerns in. But for those characters, they'll have to find a new means of employment and/or income as the original means to do so has now passed them.

This has caused a situation where he's planning on running concurrent story lines. Since the war portion will take more time to plan and to decide how he wants to run mass vs. individual combat, it will take a backseat for awhile. Therefore, we're going to run the separate arc with the PCs not involving themselves in the upcoming war (for now). Since my Swordsage/Barbarian/Scout is a fighting machine, he volunteered for conscription. So I need to come up with a new PC for tomorrow evening.

As it stands, there's a Ranger and a Cleric/Druid who are good aligned. There's also a Fighter who's NE. Not sure if we'll have our Wizard in this party as he ended up doing something stupid at the end of the previous session and got himself locked up. Myself and one other guy in the group were the only ones who essentially have to come up with new PCs.

I was a couple hundred XP shy of 8th level, so I get to put together the new one at exactly that point. I expect him to level-up mid adventure, so I'm going to put together in mind as if the PC will be 8th level so I don't have much downtime and can smoothly transition mid-play.

Need inspiration! We are playing 3.5;...

Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).


Ralphie the Shadow Sorcerer...he'll put somebody's eye out.

Scarab Sages

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Ralphie the Shadow Sorcerer...he'll put somebody's eye out.

You'll magic missle someone's eye out?


Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).

While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.

Scarab Sages

Urizen wrote:
Need inspiration! We are playing 3.5;...

Or, perhaps an elf rogue - give him decent Dex, Int, and Cha. He can take advantage of the chaos and distraction provided by the war to start his own crime organization, maybe even be some kind of black market war profiteer.

Scarab Sages

Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.

Oops, forgot about that.

How about a halfling sorcerer with the shade template - they had it written out in an issue of Dragon. Of course, I think you'd have to sacrifice some levels....


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Why are groceries so f@##ing expensive?
It just keeps getting worse too, and if fuel prices continue to rise it is going to get much worse.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Back when I still lived (full-time) with my mother, I saved just about every penny I made, and collected a respectable amount. Now, even though I still work when I'm on break, the amount of money I make ($8.50 per hour, 40 hours per week) is much less than what I spend. By my calculations, if gas and food prices get any higher than they are now, I'll be s!@! broke by the end of the year.

It's a kick in gonads alright, and I think it's going to get quite a bit worse. I think utilities are going to get worse too. Rental prices are going up in this region too, and it getting harder to finance homes.

I have friends with masters degrees and PhDs who are out of work.

My wife and mother are needling me to get my Masters degree, but the way the job market is, I'd be slitting my own throat in terms of my employment options. Part of it may indeed be the field of psychology/social work, as I feel we're getting into a situation where we have dozens upon dozens of social workers and new phd's who enter the field hoping to get rich, but find out they are completely replaceable/interchangeable.

I'm not sure why people think they are going to make a lot of money in the field of psychology and social work. I almost went into psych then I almost went into constitutional law. I wouldn't have minded staying in IC wafer fab and chemical management if those industries hadn't collapsed.

In any case, psychology seems to be one of the fields where advanced degrees are least likely to pay big dividends. I just can't imagine who gets a degree in social work and thinks they are going to get rich.

Forgot to mention that if I got those did get the advanced degree, I would not be able to get the jobs I have now- I would be considered overqualified. But then again, I think that goes without saying.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Paris Crenshaw wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
Paris Crenshaw wrote:

Hey, FAWTLs!

Busy morning, but I had a thought I needed to post on. Just thought I'd share.

Also, if you haven't seen it, check out my daughters' Girl Scout Cookie "commercial". It's a hoot. ;)

Have a great day, FAWTLs!

Cute!

How long before Britney Spears rips off their song? :P

Well, we borrowed the tune from Cee Lo Green's "Forget You" (that's the clean version of the song). I doubt Ms. Spears will have much interest in it, since our version doesn't involve sex, drugs or poor child-care decisions. ;)

HEY!!! You leave Britney be. She's a fellow Sagittarius!!

Also, more than a few people at the second job last night(venue was located not too far away from where I used to live) told me I look like Cee Lo Green. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

For some reason I think of you as quite trim, but I was also beginning to think your second job was being a dancer.

LOL!!!!!!


Morning. Oh joy.

On the bright side, leftovers from the weekend make for good lunches, so I have that to look forward to. Heh. This is the second week in a row I made sure we got Chinese food over the weekend so I could have leftovers for my lunches. I am nothing if not predictable. :)


Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.

I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.


Urizen: Belated congrats on your anniversary and congrats on Tiamat! Also, if you have it, there's a Shadow Walker template (+1 LA) in Unapproachable East. +2 Dex, -2 CON, and spell-like abilities added every couple levels... let me know if you'd like the details.

Allen: Belated congrats to you and your partner too!

Lynora: And early HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

{shambles off searching for coffee}


Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.

Have you ever done an arcane trickster kind of thing in 3.5? It's not very optimized, but they can be a lot of fun. Is this game in Golorian?

Liberty's Edge

Mmm... Arcane Trickster.

If you do go Arcane Trickster, be sure to pick up the various Orb spells (ranged touch attack -- within 30' can sneak attack).

Sovereign Court

lynora wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.
I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.

whisper gnome.

Whisper gnome beguiler / shadowcraft mage. :D

take arcane thesis silent image and heighten spell, I think. Then make 100% real shadow evocations and conjurations...


Jess Door wrote:
lynora wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.
I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.

whisper gnome.

Whisper gnome beguiler / shadowcraft mage. :D

take arcane thesis silent image and heighten spell, I think. Then make 100% real shadow evocations and conjurations...

Damn, skippy, our optimizer's got nothing on you. That's a combo destined to make my GM cry...if only it was still allowed in game. :D

Liberty's Edge

DAMN YOU URIZEN!

You've forever warped my fragile little mind.

In another messageboard, we were discussing safe-houses for PCs on the lamb. One person posted that everything went fine until somebody brings home "a stripper with a big mouth". The Urizen taint on my soul made me re-read this to figure out if he meant that in or out of game...

Scarab Sages

Mmmmmmmmm........

Liberty's Edge

Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........

And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...


Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........
And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...

LOL!


Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........
And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...

soaks Ashe's brain in 11 secret zombie herbs and spices

NOW it tastes better. Bon appetite, Aberzombie.

Scarab Sages

Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........
And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...

You should probably let me be the judge of that. I am, after all, the expert on such matters.

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........
And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...

soaks Ashe's brain in 11 secret zombie herbs and spices

NOW it tastes better. Bon appetite, Aberzombie.

Don't think you can get back on my good side that easily Snow Bringer.


Aberzombie wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Mmmmmmmmm........
And no, just because my mind is warped doesn't mean it tastes better...

soaks Ashe's brain in 11 secret zombie herbs and spices

NOW it tastes better. Bon appetite, Aberzombie.

Don't think you can get back on my good side that easily Snow Bringer.

BTW, don't think that eating my brain thinking will result in an early spring. Should my brain be eaten, winter snows will plague the eater along with those who conspired for my brain to be eaten for the rest of eternity, even in summer.


Aberzombie wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Need inspiration! We are playing 3.5;...
Or, perhaps an elf rogue - give him decent Dex, Int, and Cha. He can take advantage of the chaos and distraction provided by the war to start his own crime organization, maybe even be some kind of black market war profiteer.

Not a bad idea. However, I must admit that my initial character had tendencies of looting and pillaging to take advantage of the initial hysteria that was going on and I think what the GM is trying to do is to steer the group off into a co-op where we're more good/neutral aligned. Ultimately, I think it'll revert back more to the beer & pretzel mode after a couple of attempts, so I guess I'm just looking more at an entertaining build. Alas, this one is a bit more of a roll-play venture.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Urizen: Belated congrats on your anniversary and congrats on Tiamat! Also, if you have it, there's a Shadow Walker template (+1 LA) in Unapproachable East. +2 Dex, -2 CON, and spell-like abilities added every couple levels... let me know if you'd like the details.

Looking at it right now. What tactics or methods do you do to prevent the GM from trying to exploit bright light on you? I mean, it's not like UV Ray Bans are common in a fantasy setting. :P

As for Tiamat - I learned this morning that Gorilla Glue seems to 'expand' and 'foam' a bit even though you put on what you thought was a dab. I'm going to have to chip away carefully at some of the foam that trickled and built up around it. Maybe use one of those tools that dentists use to scrape tartar from teeth. (?)

P.S. Is it bad of me when I told my girl that it's normally going for $80, but when she told me how much I paid for it, I replied ... twenty five? *looks guilty* It seemed much easier to say than $40.


Happy note - 26th anniversary today!

Sad note - apparently telling the boss 'by leaving me alone to do the job' when she asks how she can 'help' the project is frowned upon.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
Urizen wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Urizen: Belated congrats on your anniversary and congrats on Tiamat! Also, if you have it, there's a Shadow Walker template (+1 LA) in Unapproachable East. +2 Dex, -2 CON, and spell-like abilities added every couple levels... let me know if you'd like the details.

Looking at it right now. What tactics or methods do you do to prevent the GM from trying to exploit bright light on you? I mean, it's not like UV Ray Bans are common in a fantasy setting. :P

As for Tiamat - I learned this morning that Gorilla Glue seems to 'expand' and 'foam' a bit even though you put on what you thought was a dab. I'm going to have to chip away carefully at some of the foam that trickled and built up around it. Maybe use one of those tools that dentists use to scrape tartar from teeth. (?)

P.S. Is it bad of me when I told my girl that it's normally going for $80, but when she told me how much I paid for it, I replied ... twenty five? *looks guilty* It seemed much easier to say than $40.

Only if she sees the bill.;)


lynora wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.
I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.

Unless I'm overlooking something (which is entirely possible), I only see Chaos and Whisper Gnomes as variants in that book.

EDIT: Just saw Jess' comment. Whisper Gnome, it is. Will re-read.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Have you ever done an arcane trickster kind of thing in 3.5? It's not very optimized, but they can be a lot of fun. Is this game in Golorian?

Our Tuesday night game is set in a homebrew to which we know very little about other than the base city. It's very loose and sandboxy on the fly.

Could you elaborate?

Dark Archive

Urizen wrote:


P.S. Is it bad of me when I told my girl that it's normally going for $80, but when she told me how much I paid for it, I replied ... twenty five? *looks guilty* It seemed much easier to say than $40.

I still don't understand the "justify your purchases to the spouse" thing. My husband has never cared about it.


Ashe Ravenheart wrote:

Mmm... Arcane Trickster.

If you do go Arcane Trickster, be sure to pick up the various Orb spells (ranged touch attack -- within 30' can sneak attack).

From the Spell Compendium? Whenever I play a Warmage, I abuse the living hell out of those. We jokingly call that book The Book of Broken. There are a lot of good utility spells in there, but I think that there's a number of them that stacked uncanny dodge and evasion when it came to playtesting. ;-)

The Exchange

Urizen wrote:

Ugh is right. My eyes do not want to comfortably wear contacts right now, so I'm continuing to wear glasses these morning. Ralphie from A Christmas Story is calling me and wants them back. Blergh.

Going to need some PC inspiration. Last week in our Tuesday campaign, it seemed that the party went in two different directions when it came to an impasse that the 'Adventurer's Guild' was seized and rolled into the city militia under terms of martial law. Several players decided to allow themselves to be conscripted for the upcoming war whilst others wanted to be conscientious objectors ... or more specifically ... they don't want to be involved in a war where their characters have no concerns in. But for those characters, they'll have to find a new means of employment and/or income as the original means to do so has now passed them.

This has caused a situation where he's planning on running concurrent story lines. Since the war portion will take more time to plan and to decide how he wants to run mass vs. individual combat, it will take a backseat for awhile. Therefore, we're going to run the separate arc with the PCs not involving themselves in the upcoming war (for now). Since my Swordsage/Barbarian/Scout is a fighting machine, he volunteered for conscription. So I need to come up with a new PC for tomorrow evening.

As it stands, there's a Ranger and a Cleric/Druid who are good aligned. There's also a Fighter who's NE. Not sure if we'll have our Wizard in this party as he ended up doing something stupid at the end of the previous session and got himself locked up. Myself and one other guy in the group were the only ones who essentially have to come up with new PCs.

I was a couple hundred XP shy of 8th level, so I get to put together the new one at exactly that point. I expect him to level-up mid adventure, so I'm going to put together in mind as if the PC will be 8th level so I don't have much downtime and can smoothly transition mid-play.

Need inspiration! We are playing 3.5;...

Gnome rouge/fighter dual wielding Kukris and using the PRC tunnel fighter.

Elving Wizard specializing in archery and charm spells.

A human based on any of the members of the A-Team

BA a Human Barbarian
Face a Human Rouge
Hannibal a Human tactical fighter
Mad Dog a Human Sorcerer specializing in wind and flight spells.


Jess Door wrote:
lynora wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Halfling sorcerer with the Shadow Bloodline from APG. Halflings get a bonus to Charisma, and to Stealth, and with that bloodline Stealth becomes a class skill I believe. Plus you'll get Darkvision (first to 30 ft, then to 60 ft).
While playing 3.5 instead of Pathfinder, I may have to give that a look. It can easily be reversed to fit the 3.5 mold.
I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.

whisper gnome.

Whisper gnome beguiler / shadowcraft mage. :D

take arcane thesis silent image and heighten spell, I think. Then make 100% real shadow evocations and conjurations...

Elaborate, if you can. I recall the beguiler in PH2, but no memory of the shadowcraft mage. How many levels of beguiler before you enter the PrC?

And after just reading the stats on the whisper gnome, I'm surprised there's no LA.


Ashe Ravenheart wrote:

DAMN YOU URIZEN!

You've forever warped my fragile little mind.

In another messageboard, we were discussing safe-houses for PCs on the lamb. One person posted that everything went fine until somebody brings home "a stripper with a big mouth". The Urizen taint on my soul made me re-read this to figure out if he meant that in or out of game...

I assume the thread is not on Paizo? Otherwise, you should totally fail your will save and reply accordingly.

I mean...I would.


Emperor7 wrote:

Happy note - 26th anniversary today!

Sad note - apparently telling the boss 'by leaving me alone to do the job' when she asks how she can 'help' the project is frowned upon.

<stabs micromanagers> <applauds 26 years of hanging tough>


Justin Franklin wrote:
Urizen wrote:
P.S. Is it bad of me when I told my girl that it's normally going for $80, but when she told me how much I paid for it, I replied ... twenty five? *looks guilty* It seemed much easier to say than $40.
Only if she sees the bill.;)

Just the Tiamat in a zip-lock baggie surrounded by styrofoam popcorn enclosed in a box. No receipt. *wipes brow*

Sovereign Court

lynora wrote:
Jess Door wrote:
lynora wrote:


I forget what it's called exactly since it's been banned in our games after a player really abused the silence ability, there is a shadow gnome in Races of Stone I think that has some really nice spell-like abilities that are especially good for a stealthy type character.

whisper gnome.

Whisper gnome beguiler / shadowcraft mage. :D

take arcane thesis silent image and heighten spell, I think. Then make 100% real shadow evocations and conjurations...

Damn, skippy, our optimizer's got nothing on you. That's a combo destined to make my GM cry...if only it was still allowed in game. :D

I am a horrible person.

::hangs head in shame::

I actually did play a gnome (regular 3.5 gnome) beguiler for a game once...but it blew up when the DM threw a fit over another game. Ah well. Gnomes get bonuses to Illusion DCS - which is still really nice, and you're not losing a casting level to LA. ^_-


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Urizen wrote:


P.S. Is it bad of me when I told my girl that it's normally going for $80, but when she told me how much I paid for it, I replied ... twenty five? *looks guilty* It seemed much easier to say than $40.
I still don't understand the "justify your purchases to the spouse" thing. My husband has never cared about it.

You're early in the relationship and/or marriage. That conversation will eventually come up when a financial hardship rears its ugly head.


Jess Door wrote:

I am a horrible person.

::hangs head in shame::

I actually did play a gnome (regular 3.5 gnome) beguiler for a game once...but it blew up when the DM threw a fit over another game. Ah well. :)

The Beguiler caused sooooooooooooo many fights in games I was a part of that we decided to ban the class outright.

[EDIT] NEKKID BEGUILERS FOR TOP!!! I like where this is going....

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