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Morning Patrick. I wasn't around much here this weekend, but I see from further up the boards that the trolls were. That's why I tend to steer clear from the rules sections more often than not.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to a rather sucky work week. Lean events are even more s&&#ty when they are (a)unfunded, (b)redundant, (c)and when I'm the leader.
Yuck. I hope you survive the week.

Urizen |

Something I think many people don't realize. Everyone gets so fixated on that there MUST be someone for everyone, not everyone NEEDS someone. Sure, it is nice to have a person there to share things with and live life with, and I don't doubt that I may yet find that person that will grow old with me, but if I've learned anything from the last four years, it's that if you're not happy alone, you'll never be happy with someone else.
(Fortunately, I will always treasure this time I've spent in Minnesota to remind me How to Be Alone).
Night all!
If she did her hair a little and slapped on some make-up, she wouldn't have to make that video. Just sayin'.
P.S. Schizos are never alone. Right Urizen? Right!

Urizen |

Aberzombie wrote:Dude, awesome! You should create that alias, and just post that whenever a rules thread gets too heated. You could be the new Vomit Guy!On the contrary. My vast intellegence, and obvious mastery of all that is RPG makes me the perfect focus of these rules threads. Let them overheat! I shall prove that my way is right, and anyone who plays differently has a Candle of Invocation shoved up their ass.
A worthy adversary for Spanky.

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Ashe Ravenheart wrote:Something I think many people don't realize. Everyone gets so fixated on that there MUST be someone for everyone, not everyone NEEDS someone. Sure, it is nice to have a person there to share things with and live life with, and I don't doubt that I may yet find that person that will grow old with me, but if I've learned anything from the last four years, it's that if you're not happy alone, you'll never be happy with someone else.
(Fortunately, I will always treasure this time I've spent in Minnesota to remind me How to Be Alone).
Night all!
If she did her hair a little and slapped on some make-up, she wouldn't have to make that video. Just sayin'.
P.S. Schizos are never alone. Right Urizen? Right!
Hmmm... never thought of that. With all my aliases, I have enough people for two football teams plus a cheerleading squad! (Of course, it's one of the UGLIEST cheerleading squads ever...)

Freehold DM |

GoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD Morning FAWLTY HOUSE!!!
FHDM IS IN DA HOUSE!!!
Yes, I've been waiting for a while to whip that one out.
Whip It....
Roller Derby Girls...
Yeah.....
Okay, in case you can't tell I'm pretty burnt out after all the work this weekend. Well, maybe overstimulated is the right word. Cuz after going to my first ball this Saturday and the wife's attempt to play matchmaker on Sunday, I'm a weird combination of hyper and pooped. Here's hoping some monotonous paperwork evens me out a bit. I'll be going gaming upon the morrow as well- here's hoping I get some quality sleep tonight....

Freehold DM |

God Morning FAWTLy members, this is the first post from developmental psych my 8 am gotta love large lecture halls, next for the day German 101 and that is just my morning classes.
DEVELOPMENTAL PSYCH starts having flashbacks
No...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! runs screaming from thread
[EDIT] Wait, you said developmental, not experimental. *whew*

Freehold DM |

hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?
First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
Yes, I'ds ay you need a mountain bike. It's Iowa- your winters are no joke. Even I- a seasoned NYC cyclist used to riding in conditions that make friends, relatives and acquaintences wonder as to my sanity- shudder at some of the things you'd have to put up with up there. You're going to need something reliable- maybe not oversized tires, which is something of a trend aroundabout- but with enough teeth to grip the road, dirt, and snow that I KNOW is coming your way.

Honest Trollperson |

Aberzombie wrote:Dude, awesome! You should create that alias, and just post that whenever a rules thread gets too heated. You could be the new Vomit Guy!On the contrary. My vast intellegence, and obvious mastery of all that is RPG makes me the perfect focus of these rules threads. Let them overheat! I shall prove that my way is right, and anyone who plays differently has a Candle of Invocation shoved up their ass.
Frankly, you don't have the necessary intelligence to make fun of me. The math just doesn't add up.

Woodraven |

Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
Yes, I'ds ay you need a mountain bike. It's Iowa- your winters are no joke. Even I- a seasoned NYC cyclist used to riding in conditions that make friends, relatives and acquaintences wonder as to my sanity- shudder at some of the things you'd have to put up with up there. You're going to need something reliable- maybe not oversized tires, which is something of a trend aroundabout- but with enough teeth to grip the road, dirt, and snow that I KNOW is coming your way.
I will take a picture and post it later today to show you guys what has caught my eye. it even fits my color scheme :) It originally has aggressive off-road tires, and I am thinking of picking up a set of additional good weather tires

Messageboard Troll! |

Spank Trollham wrote:Frankly, you don't have the necessary intelligence to make fun of me. The math just doesn't add up.
Aberzombie wrote:Dude, awesome! You should create that alias, and just post that whenever a rules thread gets too heated. You could be the new Vomit Guy!On the contrary. My vast intellegence, and obvious mastery of all that is RPG makes me the perfect focus of these rules threads. Let them overheat! I shall prove that my way is right, and anyone who plays differently has a Candle of Invocation shoved up their ass.
Bofh youse is stoopid. Me an smart trol persen. nons youse can b chaleng to me.

Hulkurion |

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:to teach others like me who bring computers to class and post on boards instead of listen to your instruction ;)Urg, getting up in the morning to teach people is painful. Why did I want to do this again?
Maybe had a little too much fun last night with friends and margaritas.
Fnckers!

Urizen |

Okay, in case you can't tell I'm pretty burnt out after all the work this weekend. Well, maybe overstimulated is the right word. Cuz after going to my first ball this Saturday and the wife's attempt to play matchmaker on Sunday, I'm a weird combination of hyper and pooped.
You're just trying to make Jeremy and CH jealous.

taig RPG Superstar 2012 |

Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
Which thread?!!?!?

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:Which thread?!!?!?Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
The eternal debate- point buy vs. 4d6 drop the lowest. Someone on there made a very eugenics like comment regarding people with low stats being in your party that I took offense to. They have since explained themselves better, but it still irks me. If people come to me in the party and say that my character is a bit too weak to play with the big boys, I'll consider what they have to say. If they make an attempt on my character's life in game, or worse, try to put hands on my sheet out of game, then we have a *problem*.

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taig wrote:The eternal debate- point buy vs. 4d6 drop the lowest. Someone on there made a very eugenics like comment regarding people with low stats being in your party that I took offense to. They have since explained themselves better, but it still irks me. If people come to me in the party and say that my character is a bit too weak to play with the big boys, I'll consider what they have to say. If they make an attempt on my character's life in game, or worse, try to put hands on my sheet out of game, then we have a *problem*.Freehold DM wrote:Which thread?!!?!?Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
Agreed. Why do people feel that every character they play has to be optimized? And why do the seeming majority of those people feel the need to proselytize when someone else brings in a character where they want to try a "suboptimal" character which fits a role-playing concept they have.

Freehold DM |

Freehold DM wrote:Agreed. Why do people feel that every character they play has to be optimized? And why do the seeming majority of those people feel the need to proselytize when someone else brings in a character where they want to try a "suboptimal" character which fits a role-playing concept they have.taig wrote:The eternal debate- point buy vs. 4d6 drop the lowest. Someone on there made a very eugenics like comment regarding people with low stats being in your party that I took offense to. They have since explained themselves better, but it still irks me. If people come to me in the party and say that my character is a bit too weak to play with the big boys, I'll consider what they have to say. If they make an attempt on my character's life in game, or worse, try to put hands on my sheet out of game, then we have a *problem*.Freehold DM wrote:Which thread?!!?!?Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
To be fair to those I disagree with, the thread really isn't about optimizing, but point buy, with a subtle eye towards the changes the Pathfinder system has made in 3.x. The game is now a hell of a lot more mechanical than ever before, and a few people have implied(if not made arguments for) that Pathfinder has changed "the game" to the point that randomly determined stats for character creation really no longer work. I have no problem debating that last one, and I'd really be interested in what the heads of Paizo think about that, but what pissed me off was the attitude, not the argument.

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taig wrote:To be fair to those I disagree with, the thread really isn't about optimizing, but point buy, with a subtle eye towards the changes the Pathfinder system has made in 3.x. The game is now a hell of a lot more mechanical than ever before, and a few people have implied(if not made arguments for) that Pathfinder has changed "the game" to the point that randomly determined stats for character creation really no longer work. I have no problem debating that last one, and I'd really be interested in what the heads of Paizo think about that, but what pissed me off was the attitude, not the argument.Freehold DM wrote:Agreed. Why do people feel that every character they play has to be optimized? And why do the seeming majority of those people feel the need to proselytize when someone else brings in a character where they want to try a "suboptimal" character which fits a role-playing concept they have.taig wrote:The eternal debate- point buy vs. 4d6 drop the lowest. Someone on there made a very eugenics like comment regarding people with low stats being in your party that I took offense to. They have since explained themselves better, but it still irks me. If people come to me in the party and say that my character is a bit too weak to play with the big boys, I'll consider what they have to say. If they make an attempt on my character's life in game, or worse, try to put hands on my sheet out of game, then we have a *problem*.Freehold DM wrote:Which thread?!!?!?Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
The way I see it, if you're more of a drain on party resources than you are a contributor, I'll simply stop spending my part of the resources to enable your continued draining of said resources.
That is not to say all PCs need to be 'optimized', but they do need to be 'effective'.
It's like that friend you've all had. You know, the one that is just overly negative about everything, is rude and seemingly unintentionally pisses everyone off... all the time. You may have reasons to like him, but sooner or later you stop inviting him to your parties because he makes it less fun for everyone else.

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Crimson Jester wrote:Cool. I need to see that.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Alabaster Caverns. Spelunking and watching the horde of bats that come out at night, and camping.Urizen wrote:HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Caught in a bad romance?
CrimJ: What were they doing in OK?
Dr. Cosby: the only person other than my grandmother who was allowed to cuss in my house when I was little boy.

Mairkurion {tm} |

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:** spoiler omitted **taig wrote:** spoiler omitted **** spoiler omitted **
With that out of the way, have a good Monday, everyone.
Sorry, man. The longer I live with these contests, the more I wonder about them. Anyway, I think it's one of those things were persistence is one of the most important virtues. It's a competition, not a Judgment from the Mind of God.

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taig wrote:To be fair to those I disagree with, the thread really isn't about optimizing, but point buy, with a subtle eye towards the changes the Pathfinder system has made in 3.x. The game is now a hell of a lot more mechanical than ever before, and a few people have implied(if not made arguments for) that Pathfinder has changed "the game" to the point that randomly determined stats for character creation really no longer work. I have no problem debating that last one, and I'd really be interested in what the heads of Paizo think about that, but what pissed me off was the attitude, not the argument.Freehold DM wrote:Agreed. Why do people feel that every character they play has to be optimized? And why do the seeming majority of those people feel the need to proselytize when someone else brings in a character where they want to try a "suboptimal" character which fits a role-playing concept they have.taig wrote:The eternal debate- point buy vs. 4d6 drop the lowest. Someone on there made a very eugenics like comment regarding people with low stats being in your party that I took offense to. They have since explained themselves better, but it still irks me. If people come to me in the party and say that my character is a bit too weak to play with the big boys, I'll consider what they have to say. If they make an attempt on my character's life in game, or worse, try to put hands on my sheet out of game, then we have a *problem*.Freehold DM wrote:Which thread?!!?!?Woodraven wrote:hey FHDM I am looking at getting a new bike later today, I will show you picture but living here in Iowa would you say a Mountain Bike would be suitable to even ride in the winter?First a potential pet shop thread for me, and now a bike question! Today is shaping up well, on the site for me at the very least!
Well, hell, I *like* getting rid of randomly determined stats.
Might be the nightmare of trying to build a half-elf ranger in AD&D that made me dislike it so... :D

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Alabaster Caverns.Crimson Jester wrote:Cool. I need to see that.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Alabaster Caverns. Spelunking and watching the horde of bats that come out at night, and camping.Urizen wrote:HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Caught in a bad romance?
CrimJ: What were they doing in OK?
Dr. Cosby: the only person other than my grandmother who was allowed to cuss in my house when I was little boy.
Cool. Been awhile since I went to any caves.

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Ok, so a conversation with my 4-year-old went something like...
ME: Who's cutie?
SON: I'm cutie?
ME: Is daddy cutie?
SON: NO! I'm cutie. Daddy genius.So if anyone was doubting... (Hey, have you ever tried to argue with a 4-year-old? -- Kind of like arguing on certain threads actually...)
Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Moff Rimmer wrote:Enjoy it while it lasts.Ok, so a conversation with my 4-year-old went something like...
ME: Who's cutie?
SON: I'm cutie?
ME: Is daddy cutie?
SON: NO! I'm cutie. Daddy genius.So if anyone was doubting... (Hey, have you ever tried to argue with a 4-year-old? -- Kind of like arguing on certain threads actually...)
Yeah. My older son already knows everything -- at 8. (And my experience shows that this doesn't start to change until they get to be around 25...)

Mouthy Troll |

Honest Trollperson wrote:Bofh youse is stoopid. Me an smart trol persen. nons youse can b chaleng to me.Spank Trollham wrote:Frankly, you don't have the necessary intelligence to make fun of me. The math just doesn't add up.
Aberzombie wrote:Dude, awesome! You should create that alias, and just post that whenever a rules thread gets too heated. You could be the new Vomit Guy!On the contrary. My vast intellegence, and obvious mastery of all that is RPG makes me the perfect focus of these rules threads. Let them overheat! I shall prove that my way is right, and anyone who plays differently has a Candle of Invocation shoved up their ass.
*sigh* Here's the lowdown:
I am currently summa cum laude at the Mengele University of Troll Surgery in East Ossterfuchs. I have dozens of playtest and freelancing credits to my name. I can optimize a wizard in 4.5 seconds from memory using a stick of charcoal, three marbles, and some bark. Therefore, I do not have time to deal with nose goblins such as yourselves. So quit your butthurt whinging and read up on the rules a bit, it might stop you from looking like such n00bish asses next time.

Woodraven |

Woodraven wrote:starting engl 250 now, I don't know how MLA will help me with my path into psychology where I need to know APA style. Damn liberal artsBecause in real-life, min/maxing is a very bad idea. Also, it helps to not sound like an uneducated clod when you write.
But I don't like to try to be something I am not. Meaning I am an uneducated clod.
I really enjoy my German class so far.

Nose Goblin |

Messageboard Troll! wrote:Honest Trollperson wrote:Bofh youse is stoopid. Me an smart trol persen. nons youse can b chaleng to me.Spank Trollham wrote:Frankly, you don't have the necessary intelligence to make fun of me. The math just doesn't add up.
Aberzombie wrote:Dude, awesome! You should create that alias, and just post that whenever a rules thread gets too heated. You could be the new Vomit Guy!On the contrary. My vast intellegence, and obvious mastery of all that is RPG makes me the perfect focus of these rules threads. Let them overheat! I shall prove that my way is right, and anyone who plays differently has a Candle of Invocation shoved up their ass.*sigh* Here's the lowdown:
I am currently summa cum laude at the Mengele University of Troll Surgery in East Ossterfuchs. I have dozens of playtest and freelancing credits to my name. I can optimize a wizard in 4.5 seconds from memory using a stick of charcoal, three marbles, and some bark. Therefore, I do not have time to deal with nose goblins such as yourselves. So quit your butthurt whinging and read up on the rules a bit, it might stop you from looking like such n00bish asses next time.
I believe you do have time. I checked Outlook and we have a meeting at 3:17 until 4:42.
Edit: Nekkid Nose goblin mining for TotP!