elephants also can't jump at all, even though they should be great at it RAW.
honestly, most of the animal stat blocks are pretty silly if you have a simulationist perspective.
Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).
A goat and cat could, don't know about a beagle.
I used to have a dog that I dow could have, but he was odd and he could never get back down. He would stand out there and howl. The goat I don't know never owned one but know folks who have, just never thought to ask
A goat and cat could, don't know about a beagle.
Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).
I'll believe it when I see it. I can kinda imagine a cat maybe pulling it off, but not a goat.
I'll believe it when I see it. I can kinda imagine a cat pulling it off, but not a goat.A goat and cat could, don't know about a beagle.
Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).
1) Only a fixed ladder would be perfectly vertical, otherwise it would be unstable. I doubt there would be many fixed ladders.
2) Goats can climb trees and near sheer rock walls even the best climbers couldn't get up.3) Cats can climb anything they can get their claws in.
I'll believe it when I see it. I can kinda imagine a cat pulling it off, but not a goat.A goat and cat could, don't know about a beagle.
Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).1) Only a fixed ladder would be perfectly vertical, otherwise it would be unstable. I doubt there would be many fixed ladders.
2) Goats can climb trees and near sheer rock walls even the best climbers couldn't get up.
3) Cats can climb anything they can get their claws in.
2) Yeah, but said trees and near sheer rock aren't perfectly vertical like a fixed ladder is. A tree has branches spread out at different points that can be jumped to, despite its being vertical (think of it as a pseudo-spiral staircase). Unless you have thumbs and a generally humanoid shape, you are going to have a hard time getting from one rung to another rung directly overhead. (Snakes and similar unique creatures can do it, but pretty much all quadrupeds will just end up falling/jumping off, or hitting their head on the next rung.)
3) That's true. A cat could climb one of the poles of a fixed ladder by simply digging its claws into the wood. That's still not using the rungs though.
2) Yeah, but said trees and near sheer rock aren't perfectly vertical like a fixed ladder is.
Near shear rock is harder to climb than the nonexistent perfectly vertical ladder.
3) That's true. A cat could climb one of the poles of a fixed ladder by simply digging its claws into the wood. That's still not using the rungs though.
Irrelevant. A cat can pull itself straight up on each rung if it wanted to anyway.
2) Yeah, but said trees and near sheer rock aren't perfectly vertical like a fixed ladder is.Near shear rock is harder to climb than the nonexistent perfectly vertical ladder.
3) That's true. A cat could climb one of the poles of a fixed ladder by simply digging its claws into the wood. That's still not using the rungs though.Irrelevant. A cat can pull itself straight up on each rung if it wanted to anyway.
Non-existent? Are you serious? A fixed ladder bolted to a wall is FAR from impossible. Any campaign that has sewer systems or advanced dungeons will likely have such ladders.
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Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).
*sigh* my cat climbs her kitty tree at a full run and it is vertical. Granted the carpet gives her a boost but only a bit. Any sort of cat shy of a lion is going to be able to climb up a vertical ladder.
Goats and dogs maybe not but I would never tell a PC with a cat that it couldn't climb a ladder. A rope? Not so much.
There is a reason the big cat cages at the zoo have 15' high chain link fences with a net top.
3) That's true. A cat could climb one of the poles of a fixed ladder by simply digging its claws into the wood. That's still not using the rungs though.
Using the rungs, and likely at a full run.
Edit: Down they aren't as fond of.
Those are effectively stairs rather than ladders. None of those animals would be able to climb a perfectly vertical ladder very easily (if at all).*sigh* my cat climbs her kitty tree at a full run and it is vertical. Granted the carpet gives her a boost but only a bit. Any sort of cat shy of a lion is going to be able to climb up a vertical ladder.
Goats and dogs maybe not but I would never tell a PC with a cat that it couldn't climb a ladder. A rope? Not so much.
There is a reason the big cat cages at the zoo have 15' high chain link fences with a net top.
3) That's true. A cat could climb one of the poles of a fixed ladder by simply digging its claws into the wood. That's still not using the rungs though.Using the rungs, and likely at a full run.
Edit: Down they aren't as fond of.
Got any pics of your kitty tree? Does it have rungs right above each other (rather than off to the sides)?
Got any pics of your kitty tree? Does it have rungs right above each other (rather than off to the sides)?Ok, not at a full sprint but this took all of 3 minutes searching You Tube and none of these cats are trained professionally.
Color me impressed. It looks as though they use their claws to hook around the rungs. I also noticed that they have enough movement in their paws that they can easily hook the entire paw around a rung much like a person might wrap the fingers of their hand.
Very enlightening. Thank you for posting.
I still want to see a goat do that. (It's also worth mentioning that some of those ladders weren't perfectly vertical, though it was certainly close enough for me.)
Got any pics of your kitty tree? Does it have rungs right above each other (rather than off to the sides)?Ok, not at a full sprint but this took all of 3 minutes searching You Tube and none of these cats are trained professionally.
Color me impressed. It looks as though they use their claws to hook around the rungs. I also noticed that they have enough movement in their paws that they can easily hook the entire paw around a rung much like a person might wrap the fingers of their hand.
Very enlightening. Thank you for posting.
I still want to see a goat do that. (It's also worth mentioning that some of those ladders weren't perfectly vertical, though it was certainly close enough for me.)
Cats are remarkably good at getting UP something, getting DOWN is usually the problem, if anything. Thus cats getting stuck in trees.
One cat we had loved to climb ladders when they were available. To get down he would do a sort of hop with his front legs down first then back, over and over until he got far enough down to just jump.
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Cats are remarkably good at getting UP something, getting DOWN is usually the problem, if anything. Thus cats getting stuck in trees.
One cat we had loved to climb ladders when they were available. To get down he would do a sort of hop with his front legs down first then back, over and over until he got far enough down to just jump.
Given enough time a domestic cat will just jump. A typical house cat can fall any distance with only moderate chance of injury. Bigger cats would have issues due to their greater mass.