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If you are a level 11 figher, who is deep in the two weapon fighting tree, you can reasonably have 6-7 attacks per round (7 if your hasted.)
For the purposes of resolving when your attacks occur for the purposes of side effects (for arbitrary example, your sword has a power that can trip someone on a critical so after the first attack your opponent might now be prone.) Do attacks always occur in a set order like:
Primary Weapon, First Attack
[Primary, Hasted]
Secondary, First
Primary, Second
Secondary, Second
Primary, Third
Secondary, Third
Or can the character choose to use them in any order they like?
If you get multiple attacks because your base attack bonus is high enough, you must make the attacks in order from highest bonus to lowest. If you are using two weapons, you can strike with either weapon first. If you are using a double weapon, you can strike with either part of the weapon first.
This is the only rule of which I'm aware - make iterative attacks in order. If you want to resolve all attacks with one weapon first, I don't see why not.
If you get multiple attacks because your base attack bonus is high enough, you must make the attacks in order from highest bonus to lowest. If you are using two weapons, you can strike with either weapon first. If you are using a double weapon, you can strike with either part of the weapon first.This is the only rule of which I'm aware - make iterative attacks in order. If you want to resolve all attacks with one weapon first, I don't see why not.
Ive always seen it as a matter of choice for the player. If he wants to do all his attacks with one weapon first or mix them i dont have a problem as long as they are in iterative order.
The last time I played a TWF I rolled all Primary attacks followed be all Secondary attacks. Not super realistic, but it was simple.
I think in the future, I'll designate a 'primary' and 'secondary' d20 and roll each set of iterative attacks together.
And we have always rolled Hasted attacks at the end of the round. But perhaps a third 'Haste' d20 would be a good idea for the first iterative attack group.
The last time I played a TWF I rolled all Primary attacks followed be all Secondary attacks. Not super realistic, but it was simple.
I think in the future, I'll designate a 'primary' and 'secondary' d20 and roll each set of iterative attacks together.
And we have always rolled Hasted attacks at the end of the round. But perhaps a third 'Haste' d20 would be a good idea for the first iterative attack group.
If i have 3 attacks with each weapon, usually the way i roll it is
1st attack primary
Haste Attack Primary (if applicable)
Off hand first attak
2nd attack primary
2nd attack off hand
3rd attack primary
3rd attack off hand
But i never considered it a matter of rule, just a general practice on my part.
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And we have always rolled Hasted attacks at the end of the round. But perhaps a third 'Haste' d20 would be a good idea for the first iterative attack group.
Putting the hasted attack at the end is a good idea in general as you don't receive the extra attack unless you take a full attack action, and you can choose to switch from a full attack to a standard action after making your first attack roll. Your PC may make that first attack, roll a 19 and miss (!), then decide to move away instead of going toe-to-toe! And the haste gives them the extra movement to move FAR away, too. ;)
And we have always rolled Hasted attacks at the end of the round. But perhaps a third 'Haste' d20 would be a good idea for the first iterative attack group.Putting the hasted attack at the end is a good idea in general as you don't receive the extra attack unless you take a full attack action, and you can choose to switch from a full attack to a standard action after making your first attack roll. Your PC may make that first attack, roll a 19 and miss (!), then decide to move away instead of going toe-to-toe! And the haste gives them the extra movement to move FAR away, too. ;)
A very good argument for sticking with the way I did it before.
Hmm...I'm going to try the 'grouped iterative' next time I play a TWF and see how it goes. Unfortunately, I have no idea when that will be. Actually, I guess it will be when Roagh gets to 6 BAB in Society games. But that could be awhile.
My preference (but not strictly enforced rule) is to do all attacks from the same iterative first, as described above.
Putting Haste at the end is a poor choice if you play with fumbles, since you may never get to make that attack (fumbling on a third attack, and dropping your weapon say, and not getting the full attack bonus strike). So I typically call Haste the first attack (though there is typically no difference between it and the first primary).
Same applies to doing all of one hand first, then the other.
Edit: Oh - the only "rule" I've seen is from the PF Alpha "Weapon Swap" feat, which required making all attacks with primary hand, before switching to the other. But I think that is one of the reasons that feat got killed. :)
I've seen the variations above, and also "Roll them all at once, with different colored dice for each attack". Turns out, that's faster usually.