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Do I receive a Chronicle for playing in a game that I ran in season 0, but never received GM credit for? I am sitting in this weekend for a scenario under the "Play, Play. Play" rules to help make a table.
Absolutely. I expect that the GM is in the same boat as you are and has already played or ran the scenario as well?
Arnim--are you asking if you can get credit for something you already ran back in Season 0, or are you asking if you can now get player credit for playing in a Season 0 scenario now that you ran as a GM during Season 0?
If you ran it in Season 0, there was no credit system for GMs then and the two phases of the GM credit system (in 2.0 and coming soon in 2.2) both start with the release of the version and are not retroactive.
So, in your case, no, you wouldn't get credit.
Any April retirements we should be on the lookout for?
Mark Moreland.
Retired.
Oh, was that today?
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Do I receive a Chronicle for playing in a game that I ran in season 0, but never received GM credit for? I am sitting in this weekend for a scenario under the "Play, Play. Play" rules to help make a table.Absolutely. I expect that the GM is in the same boat as you are and has already played or ran the scenario as well?
Arnim, I apologize for giving you the wrong answer. I had believed that a GM could replay a scenario in order to make the table go off. Looking at the way it was worded, only a player can receive credit.
So Josh, just so I'm straight, let's say there are two GMs who both ate Scenario X during Season One. They got their GM Reward credit for the scenario. Along comes three new, eligible players who want to play Scenario X but they can't find a 4th player. One of those GMs agrees to sit as a player to make the table legal, and the other GM runs the game. Does the GM who played get any credit for doing so?
Now let's say that those two GMs played the scenario first, then later GMed it. Both GMs' had characters who got a Chronicle sheet. Along come the same three players who can't find a 4th. One of those GMs agrees to sit as a player (with a different character this time) to make the table legan, and the other GM runs the game. Does the GM who played in this instance get a Chronicle sheet for this character?
I'm asking because when it comes to the Phase 1 changes I don't understand the subtleties between Season 0 and Season One, and between a GM who has also played a scenario and a GM who ate a scenario. I don't want to keep giving bad advice.
Hrm.
I might be making this a touch confusing.
In Season 0 (versions 1.0, 1.1. and 1.2 of the Guide) there were no GM rewards.
In Season 1 (version 2.0, 2.1) there were GM rewards. These rewards stated they were not retroactive. So if you GMed something under the previous rules sets, you would need to GM them again to get the GM reward credit.
Version 2.2 of the rules expands the GM rewards but does not retroactively apply that expansion to anything you may have GMed prior to 2.2.
Replay is now legal in 2.2 to make a legal table. If the only way to make a legal table was for one of the GMs in your example to sit down and play, they could replay the scenario for current credit so long as they weren't applying that credit to a PC that received credit for that scenario already (PCs may never get credit twice for a scenario and replay must be with a different character in a different faction than the last time you played the scenario).
So, specifically for Arnim, you would get credit playing the scenario if you were using replay to make a legal table. If you are not using replay to make a legal table, you will need to play a pregen and play for no credit.
Replay is only to be used to make a legal table and if you played/GMed the scenario already, you can't play the scenario unless the only way to make the legal table is for you to play.
Man I hope that makes sense.
Venture-Captain, Missouri—Cape Girardeau
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That does clarify. Thanks a bunch! What we are seeing locally is a group of players (1-3) showing up to make a table with a new player, to gain credit fro a new character (albeit with a new faction) for a scenario they have been through before. On the plus side, this has lead to an influx of new players; on the other, it could lead to "farming" a scenario by those players "in the know" about a scenario's rewards.
A fine line to tread.
Unsure. Next week, I hope.
Awww! Your alias turned into the real you and yoda turned into your alias. Congrats on your new tag!
I had already made a "Mark Moreland" alias, but Ross or Gary just swapped the names when I got the new tag (which was probably much easier for them). And thanks! Now leave me alone, I'm retired.
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I have a question for you josh that I don't think has been asked.
A GM now gets full credit for his character when GMing a scenario. "Full credit" means the GM gets the following:
* +1 XP
* 100% of the max gold for the tier most appropriate to his character (see below)
* Full Prestige per scenario (see below)The GM still does not get any special boons bestowed by a chronicle sheet such as free magical treasure, regional boons, or future bonus dice rolls. A GM also does not get a Day Job roll. If a GM previously received partial credit for a scenario, he must still take the partial credit and cannot run the scenario again for full credit.
I know you state that if you received partial credit on a scenario you ran you cannot run it again to get full credit, my question is can you think about allowing to take partial credit again to get the rest of the credit you now get with the new GM rewards? In other words if you re-run a scenario now after the new GM rewards started you would get +1 prestige if the scenario you are running has 2 prestige and +50% gold, this would be on top of the +1 prestige, +%50 and +1 exp you got from running the scenario in the old GM rewards system. This idea is similar to you allowing to re-run a season 0 scenario in season 1 after the GM rewards started to get the GM credit.
Doing it that way adds a great deal of complexity to the system. I think simply saying no retroactive rewards and no double rewards regardless of level of reward is far simpler.
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Doing it that way adds a great deal of complexity to the system. I think simply saying no retroactive rewards and no double rewards regardless of level of reward is far simpler.
Though I disagree it is complex, sounds pretty straight forward to me, I can't disagree that it is just simpler to say no, even if I don't like it ;)
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I ran a couple of Scenarios Saturday in my Home Game Event.
When I report the Sessions how should I report my PC's credit? Do I just fill out his number as if he were a regular PC in that Session or is there a specific protocol for reporting DM-PC credit.
And, speaking of which, the other DM in my group, though he doesn't plan on playing his PC outside of our home-game, his "PC" should get credit for when he was DMing. How do I make sure he's getting Scenario credit for the sessions he's running -- and the ones he's already run?
I ran a couple of Scenarios Saturday in my Home Game Event.
When I report the Sessions how should I report my PC's credit? Do I just fill out his number as if he were a regular PC in that Session or is there a specific protocol for reporting DM-PC credit.
This wins the award for the most asked question ever. ;-) Just add your PC to the end of the reporting as if he/she played the scenario. :-)
And, speaking of which, the other DM in my group, though he doesn't plan on playing his PC outside of our home-game, his "PC" should get credit for when he was DMing. How do I make sure he's getting Scenario credit for the sessions he's running -- and the ones he's already run?
This is tricky. Since the GM rewards have changed a few times since 2.0 (and are changing again in 2.2), there isn't really a way to retroactively apply GM credit. You either take it when you GM or you don't. If you don't, but later run that scenario again, you may take the credit. The only restriction is that you can't get credit for a scenario twice via GM credit. My advice: don't worry about what he ran in the past and keep track of him going forward--the 2.2 GM reward system is the best we've ever had and he'll be better rewarded by using 2.2 forward.
There will be a sticky thread at the top of the Pathfinder Society General Discussion forum as soon as I announce the next set of retirements. I will also begin including the retirements in the Guide with the next update early this summer.
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I haven't returned to the Paizo tables since year zero, where my first party contracted leprosy and was sold into slavery.
Looking back on this thread and seeing all the references to Dralkard Manor warms my heart. : }
Sadly, for all the complaining I did about the scenario I now miss it. Of all the retired scenarios it was my favorite. I always got a lump in my throat when that assassin vine took a PC tank from full HP into the negatives in a single round.
Director of Brand Strategy
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So any update on any type of reward system for Stars yet other then bragging rights?
A discount for scenarios when you get a certain level would be a great start!
We're still working on moving forward with a number of initiatives that were started or promised earlier this year, including this one, though we're not ready to announce any specifics. When we finalize things, we'll certainly make the information easy to find.
Mark beat me to it, but yeah, we're working on getting everything nailed down before we make any announcements.
Hyrum.
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So, when I apply a sheet for a scenario I ate to my PC, I just report him as if he played as well, that's fine. Do I sign the sheet myself, or do I need any signatures from the players (it was handled this way in LA, so just checking)?
If you're the GM, then you can just sign it yourself. There's nothing in the Guide to Organised Play to suggest that a GM's chronicle sheet must be witnessed by a player. This is one of many aspects of organised play that as long as everyone continues to play by the rules, is covered by an honour system.
Cheers,
DarkWhite
