Ah well looks like my DDM collection stops at 4500 figures then...
They lost on the price point, especially since quality has gone down. The funny thing is they still sell heroscape figures for a box of 7 visible figures, for $13.
They lost on the price point, especially since quality has gone down. The funny thing is they still sell heroscape figures for a box of 7 visible figures, for $13.
Any sites online, or at your standard retail store?
Doesn't really sound like anything going 'ooooh, ahhhh'. Did they talk about Gamma World?Besides that it would be coming out as a 4E campaign setting? I read somewhere that it would have a collectible card element to it.From another website I saw today:
Apparently Gamma World is going to be released with certain mutation cards coming in random booster packs. So the person who buys the most cards is the best player.
Brian, I'd really be careful when reading anything Joethelawyer has to say about WotC or new 4e developments. He is not a credible source of analysis on these topics. Reading this thread at ENWorld ought to give you a better idea of what the product may or may not be.
They lost on the price point, especially since quality has gone down. The funny thing is they still sell heroscape figures for a box of 7 visible figures, for $13.Any sites online, or at your standard retail store?
Local retailer, i.e. game shop. For example, the grut orc set, which had a retail price of $12.95.
They lost on the price point, especially since quality has gone down. The funny thing is they still sell heroscape figures for a box of 7 visible figures, for $13.
D&D Heroscape stuff will be a lot of "reprints" with new bases.
The price point is an improvement over the last three sets, in the sense that we're getting an additional mini for the same price (of course, we're still down two minis from the Demonweb release).
Brian, I'd really be careful when reading anything Joethelawyer has to say about WotC or new 4e developments. He is not a credible source of analysis on these topics. Reading this thread at ENWorld ought to give you a better idea of what the product may or may not be.
Please, don't drag your venom for him into this. Yes, I quoted a post from his blog. It's not inaccurate. His credibility? Still intact.
Multiple sources have confirmed the random booster pack element, including the link to ENworld that you posted (and, I'd point out, that he posted in his blog, and that I've read already).
So, to recap what I've said:
Gamma World
4E Campaign Setting
CCG style booster packs of random cards as an additional purchase (and yes, I'm aware that they're not "required" to play the game)
So far, based on the announcements coming out of D&D Experience, is any of this false?
Brian, I'd really be careful when reading anything Joethelawyer has to say about WotC or new 4e developments. He is not a credible source of analysis on these topics. Reading this thread at ENWorld ought to give you a better idea of what the product may or may not be.Please, don't drag your venom for him into this. Yes, I quoted a post from his blog. It's not inaccurate. His credibility? Still intact.
Multiple sources have confirmed the random booster pack element, including the link to ENworld that you posted (and, I'd point out, that he posted in his blog, and that I've read already).
So, to recap what I've said:
Gamma World
4E Campaign Setting
CCG style booster packs of random cards as an additional purchase (and yes, I'm aware that they're not "required" to play the game)So far, based on the announcements coming out of D&D Experience, is any of this false?
Specifically, his claim that the player who purchases the most booster packs will be the best player. This isn't supported by anything we've heard. We don't even know how the deck structure will work - whether players will share the same decks, have their own individual decks, or some mix of the two. He saw the facts and filled in the blanks with how he imagined it might work, and then presented it through his own post as reality.
Specifically, his claim that the player who purchases the most booster packs will be the best player. This isn't supported by anything we've heard. We don't even know how the deck structure will work - whether players will share the same decks, have their own individual decks, or some mix of the two. He saw the facts and filled in the blanks with how he imagined it might work, and then presented it through his own post as reality.
Summary of announcements, including Gamma World and the boosters
Additionally from the link that you yourself posted, is a link to the podcast of Thursday's seminar. Specifcally, we're told to listen at about 39:47 to about 40:38:
We also have coming up Gamma World booster cards, which is a place where you have an opportunity as a player to invest in making your character better, give yourself better options on the card draws. So things like powered armor, and fusion rifles, and really good, kick-butt mutations like the Gamma Eye and all sorts of fun things like that--a lot of those are in the boosters
I listened and confirmed the above quote myself, and it pretty much confirms the statements made. An opportunity, AS A PLAYER, to "invest in making your character better" sure seems like some of how deck structure will work. You, as a player, buy more cards, you get more cool mutations, weapons, whatever. Or, summarized, perhaps a bit snarkily as "the person who buys the most cards is the best player."
Look. I get it. You don't like Joethelawyer. Reading his blog, seeing you stir things up there, I get it. That's great. As I said, take your venom elsewhere, stop trying to start a board/blog war.
What I posted is confirmed at various different sites, including the ENworld thread that you linked to and advised me to read. Well, might I suggest you do the same?
I listened and confirmed the above quote myself, and it pretty much confirms the statements made. An opportunity, AS A PLAYER, to "invest in making your character better" sure seems like some of how deck structure will work. You, as a player, buy more cards, you get more cool mutations, weapons, whatever. Or, summarized, perhaps a bit snarkily as "the person who buys the most cards is the best player."
Again, we have no idea how this will end up working in practice. The boosters probably also contain some sub-par or goofy mutations that don't improve your character's performance, and it may be that all players in the game share the same deck of mutations. And, certainly, it's ultimately up to the DM and the entire group of players what is and is not allowed in any particular game. We simply don't know how this is going to work yet. Making those sorts of assumptions does no one any good. It serves only to further churn the rumor mill.
You're right, I don't like a lot of what Joethelawyer has to say. There's far too much negativity on his blog, much of it without merit, at least from my position. But, where this thread is concerned, I'm only interested in making it clear that the things he said in that post do not represent anything resembling real knowledge of how the game will work. He is making guesses, educated though they may be, and presenting them as reality.
You're right, I don't like a lot of what Joethelawyer has to say. There's far too much negativity on his blog, much of it without merit, at least from my position. But, where this thread is concerned, I'm only interested in making it clear that the things he said in that post do not represent anything resembling real knowledge of how the game will work. He is making guesses, educated though they may be, and presenting them as reality.
Whatever, dude.
I quoted two things that he said.
One, booster packs. This is accurate.
Two, his comment regarding purchasing of cards, while snarky, seems quite accurate, based on how official WotC sources have described the structure of the booster packs (120 cards, 8 random cards per pack, $3.99 per pack) and how they'll function in the game (a player can buy these cards to improve his/her character, which insinuates a player will buy these for the player's deck).
This has been publicly stated by representatives of WotC (you know, the guys who make the game?), both at D&D XP and on their podcast.
I didn't quote the rest of his post, because the tone wasn't appropriate. I didn't link to it. I didn't name him. You, on the other hand, have done the complete opposite, likely driving traffic to him. Congratulations.
YOU are doing nothing more than trying to bring your petty little war with him over here, and that's completely unconscionable. Knock it off.
Back to the original subject of D&D Minis...
What's everyone's take on the news?
I'm glad that they're not cancelled, definitely.
As far as the new-old format, I'm glad they're back to blind packs, but I'm not really thrilled about the inclusion of the "Very Rare" category, nor am I happy that there's only 6 minis per pack (down from 8, pre-semi-random packs), but at least it's more than we were getting with the semi-random packs (5).
Lords of Madness, if anything like the 3.5 book that was published of the same name, should be a cool set full of aberrations...
I wonder if we'll get Beholder variants (or more than one "VR" beholder)??
I'm wondering if they'll come up with Dark Sun and Gamma World minis.
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I'm glad that the line isn't dead, but once a year seems like a close step to canceling the line. I'm not sure how I feel about Very rare minis. I mainly buy through the secondary market and that's going to make getting those figures a pain.
Oh well, I guess I've got a good stable of minis built up. This might be a good excuse to learn how to paint.
I'm wondering if they'll come up with Dark Sun and Gamma World minis.
I would adore Dark Sun minis.
Gamma World minis could be cool, but I'm not seeing a lot of use for them with myself or my group.
Still, more minis = better.
YOU are doing nothing more than trying to bring your petty little war with him over here, and that's completely unconscionable. Knock it off.
Wow. I point out what I consider some serious flaws and leaps of logic in what he said (and, by extension, what you quoted) and you reduce it to a "petty little war". I know that you clearly think it's impossible for someone to have a legitimate issue with the way he presented the facts, but that's not the way I see it.
Cool it.
I'm wondering if they'll come up with Dark Sun and Gamma World minis.
They've stated that there won't be Dark Sun-specific minis sets, but that instead there would be Dark Sun themed minis distributed in their regular line of minis products.
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Great! Now I have to hide this section as well.
It's sad how fast things go bad, isn't it? One bad apple spoils the bunch and all.
To restart this thread in a slightly less combative fashion: has anyone found any good sci-fi miniatures that would substitute for the Star Wars Miniatures that are going away?
And likewise, other than Reaper, what are good miniature choices for a fantasy gamer on a budget?
Some 28mm Sci-Fi Minis that might work
You said "other than Reaper" for fantasy, right? Because their Chronoscope line might provide some sci-fi stuff.
Some interesting stuff here, but unsure of scale on all of them.
As far as fantasy minis go, there's a fair amount of non-Reaper stuff here, including the various Iron Kingdoms/War Machine stuff.
War Machine has to be sorted through heavily, though, if you don't want steampunk stuff.
Ah, those are some cool minis. Just wish they were already painted. I can't even color in-bounds with Crayola. :P
Yeah, we've been spoiled by the D&D minis. I really hope they don't plan on going away for a long time.
First I liked the cheap minis. Then I liked the visible minis and better distrubution, though not as cheap. Now, I don't think I'm going to feel so spoiled. I'd love to just hand all my mini business to reaper in protest, but after I get the few minis I need from them, who knows how long it will be before they come out with more (sorry, Reaper, but at this point, more skeletons, orcs, etc are not what I need.)
Doesn't WoW make PPMs?
Really? You got the link? (In the case of the trade, it's okay, he's my nephew.)
This is where I get all of my minis. Some of them come unbagged, but for my purposes that never matters. They seem to be out of the lizardfolk at the moment, but their stock changes pretty frequently. When they have them, they're $.89 each.
Holy moly! Thanks!
Really? You got the link? (In the case of the trade, it's okay, he's my nephew.)This is where I get all of my minis. Some of them come unbagged, but for my purposes that never matters. They seem to be out of the lizardfolk at the moment, but their stock changes pretty frequently. When they have them, they're $.89 each.
Thanks, Sebastrd. Before, I thought maybe you were a spawn of Sebastian or some kind of Bastard-forged, but now you seem more like the mini-fairy. So, you've done plenty of business with them in the past?
Thanks, Sebastrd. Before, I thought maybe you were a spawn of Sebastian or some kind of Bastard-forged, but now you seem more like the mini-fairy. So, you've done plenty of business with them in the past?
I've ordered from them 3 or 4 times now, to the tune of a few hundred minis, and never had any problems. I'm still waiting on a few minis from my latest order, but that's a dozen or so out of over a hundred. I've never had a shipment missing minis that were on the invoice, and they ship pretty quickly. I live overseas and get them in a week or so.
I've bought a lot of minis from Auggie's through ebay in the past and can attest to their reputation.
I have bought minis from Auggies in the tune of 40+ a few times and never had any problems, and shipping is cheap comparitively. My only gripe is the amount of minis they have versus what I want which isn't really a gripe at them :P
Thanks a lot, guys!
Another thumbs-up for Auggie's. Good peoples.