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the language is a bit different for incorporeal and ethereal, so I'm just asking the question...
If you are ethereal and strike at a creature on the material plane with a Ghost Touch weapon can you strike it for damage?
I am of the opinion that you can anyone else interpret it a different way? and why?
From the PRD (Ethereal Jaunt spell)
"An ethereal creature is invisible, insubstantial, and capable of moving in any direction, even up or down, albeit at half normal speed. As an insubstantial creature, you can move through solid objects, including living creatures. An ethereal creature can see and hear on the Material Plane, but everything looks gray and ephemeral. Sight and hearing onto the Material Plane are limited to 60 feet.
Force effects and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can't attack material creatures, and spells you cast while ethereal affect only other ethereal things. Certain material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane.
Treat other ethereal creatures and ethereal objects as if they were material. "
I think that Ghost Touch is for incorporeal creatures on your own plane. Ethereal creatures are defined as being on a different plane entirely, and cannot be attacked by non-ethereal creatures. The exception is force spells, which are specifically allowed.
I am not sure, but I don't think that Ghost Touch qualifies as a "material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane", but I am not 100% certain.
I see your reasoning Dilvish and I think i agree, the kicker is Ethereal creatures are on another plane, and Ghost Touch's intent seems to be as you said incorporeal creatures on the same plane.
thanks
Dilvish is right. If you are ethereal then you can't use a ghost touch weapon on the material plane, or to affect the material plane, since you are on another plane of existence.
Manifesting ghosts work a bit differently, and since they are considered to be incorporeal and on the material plane when manifested they can use ghost touch weapons on the material plane.
But no, you can't use say the Etherealness spell and a ghost touch weapon to attack enemies who can't attack you back!
Actually I mis-read his first post and was answering whether you could attack an Etherial creature with a Ghost Touch weapon from the material plane. But I'm sure that the answer has to be the same for either case.