Races of Ansalon: Phaethon


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I want to bring the Phaethon into Golarion. In the 3.5 book, they get a bonus to wisdom and a penalty to strength. I noticed in Pathfinder, the races either get a bonus to one ability score or a bonus to two abilities with a penalty to another. In 3.5, their favored class is monk. This makes me think that I should give them a bonus to dexterity. If it makes any difference they also get low-light vision and the ability to (as a free action) to grow wings of fire to either fly or deal extra fire damage with unarmed attacks in a round. Does this make since? In 3.5, they have a LA of +2. Any ideas or suggestions?


Id like to help but in what book are Phaethon listed as a playble race i only know the Gargantuan Epic outsider version.

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Alex B. wrote:
Id like to help but in what book are Phaethon listed as a playble race i only know the Gargantuan Epic outsider version.

Races Of Ansalon book for Dragonlance


Ok well i dont know if your familiar with the pathfinder bestiary but they adjusted the rules for lever adjustment. And the system is pretty good. I would recomend toning the Phaethon down to one level adustment and the new scheme. How about this:

Phaethon Racial Traits:

Lv Adjustment +1

Dex: +2 Str: -2 Wis: +2

Lowlight Vision

Flaming Wings:(SU) 3x/day As a move equivalant Action a Phaethon may gain a fly speed of 20ft for i 1min/character level

Flaming Fists:(SU) 5x/day A Phaethon may add 1d6 fire damage to his unarmed strike for i rnd and counts as though he had the imp unarmed feat.

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Alex B. wrote:

Ok well i dont know if your familiar with the pathfinder bestiary but they adjusted the rules for lever adjustment. And the system is pretty good. I would recomend toning the Phaethon down to one level adustment and the new scheme. How about this:

Phaethon Racial Traits:

Lv Adjustment +1

Dex: +2 Str: -2 Wis: +2

Lowlight Vision

Flaming Wings:(SU) 3x/day As a move equivalant Action a Phaethon may gain a fly speed of 20ft for i 1min/character level

Flaming Fists:(SU) 5x/day A Phaethon may add 1d6 fire damage to his unarmed strike for i rnd and counts as though he had the imp unarmed feat.

Ok this sounds pretty good. I did forget that in the 3.5 book they fly with the wings at a speed of 60 feet (avg maneuverablity).

If anyone has any other ideas, I'd like to hear them.


Well this isnt over powered either: maybe even 40 feet but if you want them to be lv adustment +2 the 60 ft and give em improved unarmed as a bonus feet and a nac: +2 and there balanced as well an make good monks.

Phaethon Racial Traits:

Lv Adjustment +1

Dex: +2 Str: -2 Wis: +2

Lowlight Vision

Fly Speed: 30 feet (avg maneuverablity

Flaming Fists:(SU) 5x/day A Phaethon may add 1d6 fire damage to his unarmed strike for i rnd and counts as though he had the imp unarmed feat.

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