Regarding Hellfire


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This question is primarly aimed at F. Wesley Schneider, but feel free to contribute.

Having this awesome idea for a sorceror PC who's father sold his son (the PC)'s soul in exchange for his own doomed freedom, I decided the PC would take the Infernal bloodline.

Hellfire, as quoted from Pathfinder Chronicles Book of the Damned Vol. 1: Princes of Darkness page 5 sidebar is as follows:

"Hellfire is treated as normal fire, but deals half fire damage and half damage from unholy energy. Damage dealt by hellfire is known as hellfire damage. Evil-aligned creatures and creatures with the evil subtype take no damage from the unholy energy, but good-aligned beings and those with the good subtype take double the normal damage from it."

The infernal bloodline power Hellfire [ Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook , page 77] is as follows: "At 9th level, you can call down a burst of hellfire. This 10-foot-radius does 1d6 points of damage per sorceror level."

My question is then: Should by character deal 1d3 fire damage and 1d3 unholy energy damage per sorceror level, or does he call down a "different" sort of hellfire column?


GreatKhanArtist wrote:


My question is then: Should by character deal 1d3 fire damage and 1d3 unholy energy damage per sorceror level, or does he call down a "different" sort of hellfire column?

I think not. I think he would do 9d6 damage, where half is fire, and half is unholy energy damage. Let us say that he rolls a totalt of 32. 16 is fire, 16 is unholy. Against good creatures, the total damage will be 16+(16x2) = 48.

Scarab Sages

Well, the Core book is just that, core, and people may or may not be using hellfire as defined in Book of the Damned, so I'd say the intent in the PFRPG is that the hellfire is just... fire. No special damage.

However, it doesn't seem unbalanced to make it be 'real' hellfire and treat half the damage as unholy. I'd say go for it; as a DM, I'd certainly allow it. I think the RP aspects of the whole Infernal bloodline balance out any small side benefits.

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Technically, the BOTD version of hellfire is not what the infernal bloodline sorcerer creates. If you give the sorcerer's hellfire ability the effects of the BOTD hellfire, that's pretty strong (it means half that damage ignores fire resistance). Not game-breaking, but strong. If you give them BOTD hellfire, I'd consider removing the shaken effect from the sorcerer's hellfire ability.

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