Geeze! A +6 intelligence item with Linguist as a skill would get you a zillion languages, would it not?Level+3 so depending on the level yeah.
You ninja'd my edit above.
If you are getting a +6 item, I imagine you are pretty high level to start. There's only 21 or so languages in the game and you are bound to know 4+ to begin with if you are a wizard-type. Imagine an item that taught you secret languages such as Druidic! That would piss somebody off to be sure.
Geeze! A +6 intelligence item with Linguist as a skill would get you a zillion languages, would it not?Level+3 so depending on the level yeah.You ninja'd my edit above.
If you are getting a +6 item, I imagine you are pretty high level to start. There's only 21 or so languages in the game and you are bound to know 4+ to begin with if you are a wizard-type. Imagine an item that taught you secret languages such as Druidic! That would piss somebody off to be sure.
21?
Are you including:
Common, Hallit, Kelish, Osiriani, Polyglot, Tien, Skald, Varisian, Vudrani, Ancient Osiriani, Azlanti, Jistka, Tekritanin, Thassilonian
In addition to:
Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Draconic, Dwarven, Elven, Giant, Gnome, Goblin, Gnoll, Ignan, Infernal, Orc, Sylvan, Terran, Anklo, and Undercommon?
Cause I got 33 right there.
21?
Are you including:
Common, Hallit, Kelish, Osiriani, Polyglot, Tien, Skald, Varisian, Vudrani, Ancient Osiriani, Azlanti, Jistka, Tekritanin, Thassilonian
In addition to:
Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Draconic, Dwarven, Elven, Giant, Gnome, Goblin, Gnoll, Ignan, Infernal, Orc, Sylvan, Terran, Anklo, and Undercommon?Cause I got 33 right there.
Are those from the v3.5 Pathfinder Chronicles campaign book? I was counting all the ones in the Pathfinder Core book under the Linguistics skill.
|
Okay, I'm a little confused. Is the official Paizo position that if you have a Headband of Vast Intellect (+6 to Int) and wear it for 24 hrs., that you get:
1. Intelligence raised by +6
2. A +3 bonus to Int based skills
3. Whatever new skills are assigned to that particular item (or random ones, if no skills are listed)
AND
4. 3 additional skill pts per each level gained from that point on,
5. 3 retroactive skill pts for each level already obtainedOr is just 1,2, and 3?
I hadn't thought about #4 before. We all know by now that the retroactive skill pts are hard wired into the item. What about future additional skill points due to the Int increase from the item? Logically, they too would go into the hard-wired skill, but I haven't seen that said officially yet.
|
Are those from the v3.5 Pathfinder Chronicles campaign book? I was counting all the ones in the Pathfinder Core book under the Linguistics skill.21?
Are you including:
Common, Hallit, Kelish, Osiriani, Polyglot, Tien, Skald, Varisian, Vudrani, Ancient Osiriani, Azlanti, Jistka, Tekritanin, Thassilonian
In addition to:
Abyssal, Aquan, Auran, Celestial, Draconic, Dwarven, Elven, Giant, Gnome, Goblin, Gnoll, Ignan, Infernal, Orc, Sylvan, Terran, Anklo, and Undercommon?Cause I got 33 right there.
Those would indeed be from the campaign setting, however I think AS point is coming from outside the box. You're not limited to just those languages in the core book, technically speaking. You could additionally start creating languages, I geuss. Hopefully you have a twin! :P
I hadn't thought about #4 before. We all know by now that the retroactive skill pts are hard wired into the item. What about future additional skill points due to the Int increase from the item? Logically, they too would go into the hard-wired skill, but I haven't seen that said officially yet.Okay, I'm a little confused. Is the official Paizo position that if you have a Headband of Vast Intellect (+6 to Int) and wear it for 24 hrs., that you get:
1. Intelligence raised by +6
2. A +3 bonus to Int based skills
3. Whatever new skills are assigned to that particular item (or random ones, if no skills are listed)
AND
4. 3 additional skill pts per each level gained from that point on,
5. 3 retroactive skill pts for each level already obtainedOr is just 1,2, and 3?
No, think of the +int item as having infinite ranks in every skill it has associated with it. The character can only access those ranks up to his hit dice. So, while it has infinite ranks, a 12th level Wizard can only access the first 12. A level 25 demigod could access the first 25, and so on.
What i think mdt and others don't understand, is that 1)You don't get any bonus skill points from a headband of intelligence. The skills assigned to the headband ARE the bonus skill points for having a high intellect.
2)Languages are not learned when intelligence is increased. In the pathfinder core rulebook pg 17 under the intelligence heading it states: The number of languages your character knows at the START of the game. Furthermore, on pg 101 of the core rulebook under the skill linquistics, subheading Learn a Language, it states: Whenever you PUT A RANK in this skill, you learn a new language. Putting a rank in a skill is different than having a ability modifier increase. If your ability modifier increases, you do not gain another language because of it, you would however be better at deciphering scripts and such. Based on these two rules, you can only learn languages at the start of the game, and whenever you put a rank in the linguistics skill, or if you have a headband of vast intelligence with the attached skill Linguistics.
Example: a 3rd level wizard gets a +2 intellect headband and attached to it is the skill Knowledge (history). His total intelligence increases to 22. He does not gain any more skill points, but he does get a skill at max ranks, as if he had gained a +2 in intellect. Its a virtual increase, with the bonus already built in. Its as if he had gained 3 skill points for being third level, but they have to go into the skill Knowledge (history). Now if his skill attached had been Linguistics he WOULD gain a language every level for a total of 3 extra languages at third level, but only while he has the headband on.