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Yeah, classic shell made windows 8 preview version usable for me.


LazarX wrote:
ngc7293 wrote:

One of these days, I have to take my 600mhz ibook to apple see how much it would take to fix it. I think it needs a new motherboard, keyboard and battery. All that just to run a single game.

I have Windows 7 on this laptop. I will go as long as possible without getting another one (maybe windows 9 won't look like that piece of crap windows 8)

I considered Ubuntu, but at the time when I did, I had just Dial-up on my desk top available and the version of Ubuntu did not have a driver for the modem. It was all set for cable and what not but I had to download the drivers for the modem. That didn't work.

Apple never built it's machines for gaming. Even with the hardware finally in place to support it, they put no priority to proper drivers for gaming. It's only been to exceptional developers like Blizzard that Apple has any gaming presence at all. Your ibook, even if it was brought to factory spec, is going to be a major disappointment in that area. I say this even being a Machead, generally.

I never played D2LOD on the old laptop. I had a game on it that Windows never did right. Ambrosia Software: EVNova. You needed a laptop that supported OS9 so you could run ResEdit. EVN could not be edited properly on a PC. If you know the game I am talking about you understand. A lot of people created new games for EVN much like people are creating new games for NWN. As far as I know people are still making making games for it.

Even my current computer isn't a gaming computer. I figure if I want to play video games I should get a console. I tried that once and found out that I am not a console nut like a lot of my friends.

If I get the Mac fixed, it is for one game and one game only.

Grand Lodge

Drejk wrote:
Yeah, classic shell made windows 8 preview version usable for me.

There's a major difference between Windows Preview and release. I'm using 8 release with Classic Shell, and the only thing I'm missing from 7 is widgets.


All that b****ing from people who used Preview lead to positive changes?

I was under very positive impression of Windows 7 Release Candidate and Windows 8 Preview was terrible in comparison.


GentleGiant wrote:
LazarX wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:

Anyone who has experience with Linux:

Do the newer versions of Linux (e.g. the Ubuntu ones) require much less processor power and memory than Windows XP?
I have an older laptop, with only 256 Mb RAM, and I'm considering scrapping XP on it and installing Linux since it's soooo slow nowadays.
So, is this one area where Linux is superiour to Windows - less hardware demanding?

The major issue with Linux tends to be lack of hardware support as in lack of drivers.

The real question is... what are you trying to do with your system? Unless you're extremely technically oriented, the only benefit to Linux is bragging rights on Slashdot. To run windows programs you're still going to be loading Windows libraries through wine, and at best it's a dodgy process.

Linux is a gearhead OS, Not only does it have a good deal to go to get to the same level of user friendliness of Mac or Windows, there seems to be considerable hostility towards doing so.

My plan is to try and revive it for use as my "GM" computer.

So it would need to run OpenOffice, a pdf-reader, a browser (and be able to connect wirelessly through a USB network dongle) and maybe a virtual tabletop + connect to a projector as a second screen.
I have a 1 Gb RAM stick I've salvaged from my dad's laptop when I upgraded it, which I might be able to put into my own (if it's compatible with the motherboard). I'd say going from 256 Mb to 1 Gb should do wonders.
I know it can obviously do the first things, more uncertain about the VTT + projector, but I also need it to do it without moving at a snail's pace.

Anyone?


If you are not sure about the memory, try going to one of the computer memory websites like kingston.com and look for both computers. If they match as far as memory types go, they there is a good chance that the memory you have will work in your machine. Or you can just try it. I suppose the worst it can do is just not work.

Also, memory may not help everything. If you have a slow processor, putting in a gig of memory is not going to speed things up.


GentleGiant wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:
LazarX wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:

Anyone who has experience with Linux:

Do the newer versions of Linux (e.g. the Ubuntu ones) require much less processor power and memory than Windows XP?
I have an older laptop, with only 256 Mb RAM, and I'm considering scrapping XP on it and installing Linux since it's soooo slow nowadays.
So, is this one area where Linux is superiour to Windows - less hardware demanding?

The major issue with Linux tends to be lack of hardware support as in lack of drivers.

The real question is... what are you trying to do with your system? Unless you're extremely technically oriented, the only benefit to Linux is bragging rights on Slashdot. To run windows programs you're still going to be loading Windows libraries through wine, and at best it's a dodgy process.

Linux is a gearhead OS, Not only does it have a good deal to go to get to the same level of user friendliness of Mac or Windows, there seems to be considerable hostility towards doing so.

My plan is to try and revive it for use as my "GM" computer.

So it would need to run OpenOffice, a pdf-reader, a browser (and be able to connect wirelessly through a USB network dongle) and maybe a virtual tabletop + connect to a projector as a second screen.
I have a 1 Gb RAM stick I've salvaged from my dad's laptop when I upgraded it, which I might be able to put into my own (if it's compatible with the motherboard). I'd say going from 256 Mb to 1 Gb should do wonders.
I know it can obviously do the first things, more uncertain about the VTT + projector, but I also need it to do it without moving at a snail's pace.
Anyone?

sorry if it has been a while but sounds like you might end up running lubuntu. It might not be compatible with motherboard but lubuntu would run with 256 mb ram but you should use alt installer. Although the version of open office is now forked into libreoffice but that doesn't come with it. Does it have a dvd drive as that can be tricky with the system requirements as some distros don't fit on cds while lubuntu does. Some computers from that time cannot boot from a usb device but if you can't you can get a thing called plop bootloader that will let you and you can install it to the hard drive or make you install from usb then. Not sure about virtual tabletops on those systems and what is supported. I can get into the paizo game space beta with lubuntu and it works.

Grand Lodge

ngc7293 wrote:

If you are not sure about the memory, try going to one of the computer memory websites like kingston.com and look for both computers. If they match as far as memory types go, they there is a good chance that the memory you have will work in your machine. Or you can just try it. I suppose the worst it can do is just not work.

Also, memory may not help everything. If you have a slow processor, putting in a gig of memory is not going to speed things up.

Newegg has an great GUI for matching memory to machine, it will walk you from brand to specific model. And it's the only major retailer that seems to give support to older kit.

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