
Daeglin |

I have about 4 ranks in Google-fu, so I've read all the basic promotional material. I guess what I was hoping for was the opinion of someone who had actually used it in play. An assessment of quality from someone here used to Paizo-quality products would have been useful. No biggie, gonna order a print copy I came across and see what its like.

Salcor13 |

I've been looking into this setting. Anyone know much about it? Is it just a campaign setting or is it their reworking of d20 Modern rules? If you've played using it, love to hear your opinion. Both on the quality of material, and the quality of the dead tree print product if you've seen it.
The Dawning Star world is one of the best put together Sci-fi worlds I have come across in a few years. It is well thought out and has a great unified vision. One of the other things I like is how they limited there world to not make it too large. A lot of sci fi games out there are usually on the galaxy, or multi-verse level which is just too much. With Dawning Star the main book focuses on humanities new home Eos. Then the Helios Rising book expands on the rest of the solar system, but trys to limit it to that system to tell a better story. I highly recommend it, because the campaign setting they designed allows you to play any number of sci fi game types. There are aliens that contribute to the bug hunt model, there are ancient alien ruins for the pulp/indiana jones model, there are other alien races for the diplomacy, there is a dividing of humanity that contributes to strife and espionage. If you get it I definately recommend Helios Rising. I would also take a look at the terraformer pdf releases on rpgnow.
Salcor

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I've been looking into this setting. Anyone know much about it? Is it just a campaign setting or is it their reworking of d20 Modern rules? If you've played using it, love to hear your opinion. Both on the quality of material, and the quality of the dead tree print product if you've seen it.
I ran a d20 Starship Warden Campaign: It was so well established the Metamorphosis Alpha people ran off to WOTC and optioned D20 Future for Metamorphosis Alpha... Here is how season 2 ended.
49. A BOX FULL OF WOOF?
The crates tumbled as the airlock sealed on the storage vault. A sound of movement in the darkness... Turku looked back into the vault.
Enwoad watched now as three metal creatures waddled out of the darkness.
"WHUFF! WHUFF!" came the voices.
"By the Farmer, what now?"
DM Briefing: The PCs encounter three robot dogs (CERBERUS-A's: Killer DogBots) except these have only the puppy programming and form an emotional attachment on the first person they encounter. They will follow and play with the lucky party member.
50. A MEAL PACK WITH THE PAST
Lydia Enwoad continued to chew at the strange food that Jermai/Weapon Officer 383 had given her. She knew it wasn’t her husband. He was returned to the soil.
“How you doing mam?” Weapon Officer 383 stared at the child in the Civilian’s Arms. He only had vague memories of ever having seen one.
DM Briefing: The Marines begin a debriefing of the PCs in an attempt to gather intelligence on behalf of the GAAL faction.
51. SABRE67 (Prelude to the Vegetable that ate the City)
SABRE67 moved through the hydroponics framework. with all the paranoia of a professional Marine. A Cabbage attacked from above, attempting to crush the Bots armour.
“Hostile Detected!” SABRE67 devoured the plant with Polymer rounds.
“Take a sample for gene-splice.” The voice in his head seemed insistent.
DM Briefing: A SABRE from the SHAKAL FACTION collects a sentient killer vegetable for genetic experimentation.
52. The Vegetable that ate a City
WO 234 watched as the giant cabbage swatted the high-rise building aside and came toward the one on which he now rested. The Powered Armour was leaking Coolant.
“That sure as hell put me off Vegetables for a while.” WO234 opened with his shoulder mounted 50mm GATLING instantly drawing the plant’s attention.
DM Briefing: The SHAKAL faction deploys a Giant Killer Cabbage Clone in an Urban Habitat where it can unleash its fury on GAAL faction troopers.
-TERMINUS SEASON 2-

Salcor13 |

@Salcor13
I added Helios Rising to the order (The supplier had a print copy! I thought it was pdf only). Thanks for the advice.
Acutally is is available in both print and pdf. Justin Jacobson from Blue Devil Games is an generally will answer any questions you have. Also take a look at the terraforms at rpgnow. They add some more prestige classes, and world organizations plus at least one adventure. The Dawning Star webiste also has a few free adventures on them. Also a fan did a short run of podcasts called radio free eos. The are good for setting the mood and hooks for adventures.
Salcor

Urizen |

So I did order it last week, and hopefully it will be here soon. The preview stuff really did peak my interest, enough that I decided to splurge on the print version.
@Salcor13
I added Helios Rising to the order (The supplier had a print copy! I thought it was pdf only). Thanks for the advice.
I found Dawning Star about a month ago at Half Price Books and it's definitely interesting. I've only been reading it for fluff for the time being. Have you actually played out of it yet? And what do you think of Helios Rising? I have yet to come across it for sale anywhere; must expand on my google-fu.

Brian E. Harris |

Daeglin wrote:I found Dawning Star about a month ago at Half Price Books and it's definitely interesting. I've only been reading it for fluff for the time being. Have you actually played out of it yet? And what do you think of Helios Rising? I have yet to come across it for sale anywhere; must expand on my google-fu.So I did order it last week, and hopefully it will be here soon. The preview stuff really did peak my interest, enough that I decided to splurge on the print version.
@Salcor13
I added Helios Rising to the order (The supplier had a print copy! I thought it was pdf only). Thanks for the advice.
Helios Rising is pretty fantastic, and I'd strongly urge you to pick up a copy when someone lists one for a reasonable price from someone other than the current shysters on Amazon.
A buddy of mine and I picked up our copies about 6 months ago for under $40 on Amazon - the same two jerks selling the $138+ copies were there then, too.
Watch that site, watch places like Troll and Toad and Noble Knight (Troll and Toad's "Wish List" feature will actually have them put a copy on their "buy list" that they publish, so that might be a better way than just waiting for one).

Urizen |

Helios Rising is pretty fantastic, and I'd strongly urge you to pick up a copy when someone lists one for a reasonable price from someone other than the current shysters on Amazon.
A buddy of mine and I picked up our copies about 6 months ago for under $40 on Amazon - the same two jerks selling the $138+ copies were there then, too.
Watch that site, watch places like Troll and Toad and Noble Knight (Troll and Toad's "Wish List" feature will actually have them put a copy on their "buy list" that they publish, so that might be a better way than just waiting for one).
Thanks for the tip. I saw that on Amazon as well and mumbled 'WTF...?' under my breath.

Brian E. Harris |

Brian E. Harris wrote:Thanks for the tip. I saw that on Amazon as well and mumbled 'WTF...?' under my breath.Helios Rising is pretty fantastic, and I'd strongly urge you to pick up a copy when someone lists one for a reasonable price from someone other than the current shysters on Amazon.
A buddy of mine and I picked up our copies about 6 months ago for under $40 on Amazon - the same two jerks selling the $138+ copies were there then, too.
Watch that site, watch places like Troll and Toad and Noble Knight (Troll and Toad's "Wish List" feature will actually have them put a copy on their "buy list" that they publish, so that might be a better way than just waiting for one).
Yeah, there's this subset of Amazon vendors who do that. There's a few different explanations for it.
It appears, from reading some of the Amazon forums, that a few of them (like Any_Book, BooksByLab, etc.) don't actually stock the book, and they just wait for an unsuspecting buyer to pay the exorbitant price, and then they buy it from someone else. I don't know if they actually have a line on the book from somewhere outside of Amazon, or what.
Others use an automated pricing software that prices the book at the same price (or slightly lower) as the competition - such is the case with someone like MahlerBooks, who has a copy of Helios Rising. Mahler is a good seller to deal with (I've bought a few things from him), but issues like this one crop up.
It's even more frustrating when it's a situation of someone using the automated price match in conjunction with a dealer like Any_Book.
I ran into this when trying to snag a copy of Bloodspeakers. A lot of these sellers have no insight into the market, so they'll see one person selling it for a brick of gold, and think "oh, this is rare!" and price accordingly.
Fortunately, someone selling a copy usually shows up, and is realistic about it, and drops the copy for a significant amount less than the unreasonables.
You might try emailing Mahler or the other seller with an offer on the book, and see if they'll bite - I've had it work for me.