And do you really think that half-elves could have been born in any kind of great numbers without elf-human/human-elf assault?Yes.
If you think about it elves, in general epitomize femininity, elven females particularly so. Hence form a female elves perspective human males are quintessential examples of masculinity. So, while its perfectly possible to conceive of an eleven male being attracted to a human female the more likely scenarios are human males attracted to elven females while eleven females are, in turn, attracted to human males. From her perspective their are a heck of a lot of muscular tall dark and handsome humans around.
Jeremy,
By that logic, they ought to be even more attracted to Orcs, Bugbears, Trolls, Ogres, etc.No. Elven females would be programmed by genetics and sociatal concepts of "normalicy" to be attracted to elven males.
It's like saying female humans would be attracted to gorillas because they are so much more masculine than us.
I'm not buying it.
Reckless
Its a two way street.
You just eliminated the problem of rape from the equation. If Elven females are, due to genetic predisposition, horribly repulsed by how human males look then it stands to reason that human males are, in turn, genetically predisposed to be disgusted and repulsed by Elven females...maybe we ought to inform the Paizo art department so they can avoid making the error of splashing elven babes on their covers.
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Its a two way street.
You just eliminated the problem of rape from the equation. If Elven females are, due to genetic predisposition, horribly repulsed by how human males look then it stands to reason that human males are, in turn, genetically predisposed to be disgusted and repulsed by Elven females...maybe we ought to inform the Paizo art department so they can avoid making the error of splashing elven babes on their covers.
Three things.
One, I said they would be genetically and culturally predisposed towards being attracted to elven males, in refutation of your assertion that they would somehow find human males more attractive than elven males, due to humans being more "manly". If anything, the "feminine" qualities you assert as being dominant in elven males would probably mean they would be more attracted to human females than human males, since they would share more characteristics deemed attractive to elves. Regardless, I imagine any elf would view daliances with a human to be "slumming".
Two, even if I had said that elves find humans repulsive, it does not necessarily follow that humans find elves repulsive. Just as an ugly, socially repulsive man can be attracted to a beautiful woman. For example, I don't imagine Angelina Jolee is going to be looking at any pictures of you or I on the covers of a magazine anytime soon.
Three, rape is not really about attraction. In the case of rape spawning cross-breeds, this would be a war-time effort to bring shame upon one's enemies, and would have pretty much nothing to do with how attractive one's enemies are.
See, compared to elves, humans are short-lived, clumsy, war-like, polution-causing, short-sighted, aggressive, inartistic, etc. etc. Sure, one or two among the thousands of them crawling around might be enough to hold an elf's interest for a while, but even then, they're only going to die in a few short decades, and who needs that kind of drama?
Spock is the Star Trek equivelent of a half-elf. Special because he is an exception. And his father felt the shame of it his entire life.
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IMO all half races should be removed. Each race should be considered a separate species and just as cats can't breed with dogs can't breed with cows and so on orcs shouldn't be able to breed with humans shouldn't be able to breed with elves and so on. The few species that can inter breed always have sterile offspring and can't start a new species. Only magic should be able to create a half-orc or half-elf or a half dwarf but the creations would not be able to procreate so there would never be half-races only hybrid characters.Magic! Magic can create Chimera, why can't it create a half-elf? a half-dragon?
In a low magic world, cool, but in a standard D&D world, no...lame.
Chimeras don't breed, do they?
In a high magic game if you have half-elves and half-orcs, why not half-ogres half-vampires, half-Ithalid and even more childish combinations. I draw my suspension of magical disbelief at half races. A few hundred members of half-races in all of existence is all I believe there should be. They should be considered outcastes and marks of racial and family shame, kind of like a families shame after a video of a family member having sex with a gorilla is posted on You-Tube.
IMO all half races should be removed. Each race should be considered a separate species and just as cats can't breed with dogs can't breed with cows and so on orcs shouldn't be able to breed with humans shouldn't be able to breed with elves and so on. The few species that can inter breed always have sterile offspring and can't start a new species. Only magic should be able to create a half-orc or half-elf or a half dwarf but the creations would not be able to procreate so there would never be half-races only hybrid characters.Magic! Magic can create Chimera, why can't it create a half-elf? a half-dragon?
In a low magic world, cool, but in a standard D&D world, no...lame.
All half races of humanoid\demi-human and human types should be possible but at the end of the day it's just an avenue to interesting PC or NPC backgrounds. Sneaky half orcs acting as agents of greater evil, acting on behalf of orcs needing supplies but are human enough to pass as an ugly human or even as a struggling half man trying to prove his worth against difficult odds(predudice). Half Dwarves as shown in dark sun can be a more public friendly version of a half orc, big, tough, stubburn but less inclined to brutal violence.
Each are just an interesting background route to provide more depth to a PC or NPC.
There was an interesting book with a huge variation of cross breeds from Green Ronin I think its called 'Bastards & Bloodlines' an excellent book but designed for 3.5 ed of D&D. I do have it and it's pretty indepth.
Wait, let me get this straight:
We're worried about turning a game about violence, carnage, and combat into something more friendly toward the family?
We're worried that the parent might not want to introduce eight - year old Timmy to D&D becuase of the concept of half-orcs being born of rape?
I cry Bravo Sierra. Big time.
It's like the old South Park on Ninja skills. We can do a whole episode about putting a throwing star into a kid's eye, but we show his naked animated butt walking across the screen, and that gets edited? Uh-huh. Priorities
Never mind, as some posters have suggested, that you need not even tell little Timmy where half-orc come from, but only that he is big and strong like Mr. Worf. The fact that you are teaching an eight year oldf to play a battle-focused RPG means that if he can handle the violence, he can probably handle a half-orc. If he can't handle one or the other, he isn't mature enought to play anything by My Littl Pony the RPG anyway.