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The ending was the one part of the movie I REALLY liked. I thought it was an exceptional way to present an arch-villain.
In the comic, one hand is more seriously wounded, and the other is slightly wounded, as he gets both hands in the way, IIRC.
I did love the line, 'What, do you think I'm a comic book villain, Dan?
I was really impressed with how faithful the movie was to the books. Like Lord of the Rings (OMG, where's Tom Bombadil!) or Spider-Man (Organic web-shooters!) or Iron Man (Afghanistan instead of Viet Nam!), the changes were, IMO, for the better, in adapting a sometimes subtle and thoughtful and morally complex twelve-issue storyline with a half-dozen fully realized and significant characters into a less-than-six-hour movie.
As for the furor over the blue bits, meh. It's a penis. I've had one of those all my life, and it's never traumatized me to see it. I could understand *some* people obsessing over penis, but I really don't find them that fascinating, being the owner of one.
As for the furor over the blue bits, meh. It's a penis. I've had one of those all my life, and it's never traumatized me to see it. I could understand *some* people obsessing over penis, but I really don't find them that fascinating, being the owner of one.
From someone who knew of (but shamefully had never gotten around to reading) the graphic novel I thought it was an excellent movie (definitely one of the best I have seen in a while).
Even though I kept my reading of plot spoilers and reviews to a minimum before going to the movie, I had read about the blue nakedness.
Now that I have seen it I was surprised that it was even mentioned. I barely noticed it (and I was forewarned and made a effort to look to see how prevalent it was).
I would give the movie a mature rating but a 4.5 out of 5 (if you can handle the mature use of violence, nudity and sexuality it is excellent food for thought).
Now on to the long over due reading of the original.
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As for the furor over the blue bits, meh. It's a penis. I've had one of those all my life, and it's never traumatized me to see it. I could understand *some* people obsessing over penis, but I really don't find them that fascinating, being the owner of one.
I find mine quite fascinating. You must not be doing it right.....;P
Even though I kept my reading of plot spoilers and reviews to a minimum before going to the movie, I had read about the blue nakedness.
Now that I have seen it I was surprised that it was even mentioned. I barely noticed it (and I was forewarned and made a effort to look to see how prevalent it was).
I think it displays a sort of glitch in our society's moral makeup. A lot of folks don't mind graphic violence or long sex scenes, but they get up in arms when male genitalia is shown on screen, even if it's not sexualized or emphasized in any way. It's just one of those funny things about modern day morality.
I think it displays a sort of glitch in our society's moral makeup. A lot of folks don't mind graphic violence or long sex scenes, but they get up in arms when male genitalia is shown on screen, even if it's not sexualized or emphasized in any way. It's just one of those funny things about modern day morality.
Even though I kept my reading of plot spoilers and reviews to a minimum before going to the movie, I had read about the blue nakedness.
Now that I have seen it I was surprised that it was even mentioned. I barely noticed it (and I was forewarned and made a effort to look to see how prevalent it was).
I did'nt get up in arms, shocked, or fasinated. As Fake Healer said, nothing to get traumatized over. I personally just thought it "unncessary" just to deliver a character's persona. There would be a bunch of very different movies out there if being "bold" meant showing your junk, but I guess the porn industry does kind have the market on those remakes. :) I'm still waiting for the blue women damn it!!
I find mine quite fascinating. You must not be doing it right.....;P
As for the furor over the blue bits, meh. It's a penis. I've had one of those all my life, and it's never traumatized me to see it. I could understand *some* people obsessing over penis, but I really don't find them that fascinating, being the owner of one.
LOL!
Well, I finally got to see it. I have to say that I absolutely loved it. Although my husband was bored stiff. Oh well. We rarely like the same movies anyways.
Saw it last night. Surprisingly good (I'm a longtime fan of the comic), but I still say the comic is unfilmable. I still think Terry Gilliam's idea to do it as a 12-part TV series is the only way to really do it justice. However, I have to say that ZS's version is a LOT closer to doing that than I expected any Hollywood adaptation would ever be.
** spoiler omitted **As for the quality of the movie as a movie, I think Taliesin hit the nail on the head:
Frame perfect. Awesome work by Snyder. He still has a long way to go as a director. This is his third film. If he can start to get his movies to cohere, rather than be montages of awesome moments, he will be a director of note.Couldn't have put it better myself.
Finally someone who expresses my own opinion..Although(and I know a lot of the people here will jump at me :p) I would go as far as to saying Snyder is all about style and no essence...and whats with this glorified gore? But hey..that's me
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I think it displays a sort of glitch in our society's moral makeup. A lot of folks don't mind graphic violence or long sex scenes, but they get up in arms when male genitalia is shown on screen,
The whole thing reminds me of the Janet Jackson 'wardrobe malfunction' furor.
I mean, if the head of the FCC gets the vapors every time he sees a boob, how does he manage to look in the mirror without fainting?
I wonder ...
with the removal of the fake alien invasion, what remains of the significance of the comic-within-the-comic "Tales from the Black Freighter"? I understand it's been made into an animated episode that will probably be woven back into the movie for a DVD release, but I wonder why. To me the inclusion of the tale is used to show the reader the mindset of Max Shea, the comic-book author who, among others, is kidnapped by Veidt to plot and design the fake alien invasion. But without that, the whole thing is somewhat left dangling.
I wonder ...
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It is said that the Black Freighter sub story is to be released as an animated film straight to DVD form within a very short time.
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Is there something wrong with me? I saw the preview and said, "My god, that looks horrible!"
Then again, "she's just not that into you" sure didn't look very appealing, either -- mostly because I'm not a chick... I've never read comic books (couldn't afford them as a kid) and as an adult I don't usually enjoy movies made from them. In both cases, apparently I'm just not the target audience, I suspect.
Then again, if there's anyone here who hated "Spiderman," "300," and "Sin City" (like me), but who liked this one, then I'd maybe be willing to give it a chance.
I hated "Spider-Man," and thought "300" was pretty mediocre, but I loved "Watchmen." You should check it out.
Damnit. Still didn't see it yet >:(
I wonder ...
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I was home in New Orleans for the weekened and my brother and I saw the flick. I enjoyed it, and thought that Jackie Earle Haley was brilliant as Rorschach. And Malin Ackerman.......Yowza.
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yes everyone had good resons to kill him [The Comedian]... even Laurie they just didn't showed it in the movie... i suppose it went with the other 45 minutes of movie...
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Not quite;
Trouble is, she can't confront him publicly about it without giving away his secret identity, which the Government would never allow. They'd give him an alibi and she'd be silenced, so she just has to boil away with rage.
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** spoiler omitted **I was home in New Orleans for the weekened and my brother and I saw the flick. I enjoyed it, and thought that Jackie Earle Haley was brilliant as Rorschach. And Malin Ackerman.......Yowza.
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What I meant was that they left it hanging for most of his scenes, which surprised me. I thought I had read somewhere that they were going to keep it out of sight in the theatrical version.
I hated "Spider-Man," and thought "300" was pretty mediocre, but I loved "Watchmen." You should check it out.
Thanks, Shiny -- that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. Maybe I'll rent it from Netflix when it's out on DVD.
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I hated "Spider-Man," and thought "300" was pretty mediocre, but I loved "Watchmen." You should check it out.Thanks, Shiny -- that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. Maybe I'll rent it from Netflix when it's out on DVD.
It's a very visual movie. Seeing it on the big screen would be my recommendation.
The first time I saw it I was to to critical and compared it to the book.
I liked it but didnt love it.
Second time I saw it I just accepted it for what it was and took everything in.
Now I love it. It was amazing. I cannot picture a better movie coming out this year when I do my usual "Top 10 of the Year" list.
As far as extra stuff to look into:
Other than the Tales of the Black Freighter..on the same DVD is "Under the Hood" where its a fake documentary on the old Minutemen of the 1930s and 40s. Theres supposed to be interviews with Sally Jupiter and Hollis Mason.
To me that sounds cooler than the Black Freighter.
Also you can download a Watchmen video game for 20 bucks for the PS3. Its about Night Owl and Rorchach in the 70s when they were partners and before the Keen Act was passed. The midget guy (Big Figure?) is one of the villians in the game. in the movie he said thanks to Rorschach he has been locked up for 15 years so that gives an idea when the game takes place.
Hey its the closest we may get to a prequel.
Last but not least there are 4 viral videos made for the film that you can find on Youtube. Look for the user named TheNewFrontiersman to see them. 3 of the 4 are very cool.
I cant get onto Youtube at work so I cant post a link.
I find it interesting that nobody here knows the author...yet everyone condemns him as being a jerk...an ass...whathaveyou...
Beautiful things can come from what some may view as something ugly.
Alan Moore is a talented and obviously intricate character that has entertained us for decades through his stories...the comic books about them...and then the better movies that have come out.
Can't we just accept him? Can't we just value his work, without commenting on something we do not have the full story on?
I find it interesting that nobody here knows the author...yet everyone condemns him as being a jerk...an ass...whathaveyou...
Who's doing that?
Who's doing that?I find it interesting that nobody here knows the author...yet everyone condemns him as being a jerk...an ass...whathaveyou...
No one that I know of. It's been nothing but praises that I've read. It's what convinced me to go see the movie.
I know I didnt say anything about the author and the only jerk I know is chicken which I am gonna eat soon. Sounds like somebody has eaten to many crab cakes :)
If everything I ever wrote got adapted into a movie you'd all be lined up to give me pleasure. Let the man have his ego so long as he keeps constructicatin' works of great geniustry, sez me. <G>
I find it interesting that nobody here knows the author...yet everyone condemns him as being a jerk...an ass...whathaveyou...
Beautiful things can come from what some may view as something ugly.
Alan Moore is a talented and obviously intricate character that has entertained us for decades through his stories...the comic books about them...and then the better movies that have come out.
Can't we just accept him? Can't we just value his work, without commenting on something we do not have the full story on?
Alan Moore is a great writer, and has written some of my (and obviously others) favorite comics and graphic novels. They are mostly original and intriguing. That doesn't excuse the fact that he is kind of wierd and whiny about his works, putting them up as if they were THE standard. (although in retrospect they are damn good).
Also from what I hear the watchmen were originally supposed to be Charleston characters (The Question is Rorshack, Blue Beetle is Nite Owl, and The Atom is Dr. Manhatten) but since he didnt have the rights he recreated darker versions of those characters and they became the watchmen... Just what I read. I'll have to find my source again.
Alan Moore is a great writer, and has written some of my (and obviously others) favorite comics and graphic novels. They are mostly original and intriguing. That doesn't excuse the fact that he is kind of wierd and whiny about his works, putting them up as if they were THE standard. (although in retrospect they are damn good).
Thing is, according to the eight 'how to write graphic novel' books I own, he's regularly touted as the genre's best writer.
I think the real enemy here is the head-swellers who write those how to books. ;)
I find it interesting that nobody here knows the author...yet everyone condemns him as being a jerk...an ass...whathaveyou...
I dont think anyone's doing that either--but if they were i'd refer them to this interview Q&A which illuminates some of Moore's disdain towards adapations of his work.
I'd also refer them to this link of an interview with Moore; which after having watched, left me with the impression that Alan Moore doesnt really take himself tooooo seriously.
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Also from what I hear the watchmen were originally supposed to be Charleston characters (The Question is Rorshack, Blue Beetle is Nite Owl, and The Atom is Dr. Manhatten) but since he didnt have the rights he recreated darker versions of those characters and they became the watchmen... Just what I read. I'll have to find my source again.
Not exactly. DC absorbed the Charleston characters, but was doing nothing of note with them. The original Watchmen treatment would have used them as part of a murder mystery, and in the process made several of them unfit for publication again. This got a thumbs-down, but the overall idea got a thumbs-up, so it was written with new characters instead. And almost assuredly the better for it.
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5.> Did NOT like the ending... it felt off to me somehow, but at the same time the ending was entirely appropriate to the movie as presented. It's plot issues for me but that's me.The ending was the one part of the movie I REALLY liked. I thought it was an exceptional way to present an arch-villain. ** spoiler omitted ** *cheers for a well portraited villain* (I've never read the books and went into the movie relatively open-minded.) Having heard tid-bits from friends who have read the book(s), I honestly think I prefer this ending to the original that apparently involved an alien invasion of some sort.
Rorschach's prison scene was also pretty awesome.
Dr. Mahattan's blue schlong wasn't an issue, but from a movie go'er stand point, unnecessary. It was relatively obvious that Manhattan and NightOwl2 had a lovers triangle with opposite qualities going on without the schlong. *shrugs* Whatever works, bring on the blue woman porn!
On a side note, I was dissapointed that you didn't get a chance to bond with the regular backgound characters. Most of the impact from the end of the books was seeing them all die.