Skilled, charming, knows his way around a rapier, can cast spells, including some healing..... Eando's a bard.
Given his poor opinion of bards as expressed in one of the earliest journals (PF 2 or 3?), I don't think he's a bard.
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Given his poor opinion of bards as expressed in one of the earliest journals (PF 2 or 3?), I don't think he's a bard.
Which would make it all the more amusing if he were, honestly.
In fact... bard DOES fit him very well; 95% of the spells he casts are bard spells, and he's got a pretty good Perform (oratory) skill (remember that skill includes storytelling...).
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In point of fact, in the Prpg rules, he could just as well be a single-classed rogue who took the Minor magic and Major Magic talents alot. under this, the only spell he shouldnt have been able to cast is CLW (bard, not sorc/wiz), but I'd let that slide, since its cool. in point of fact, I think that rogues should also have access to the bard list.
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In point of fact, in the Prpg rules, he could just as well be a single-classed rogue who took the Minor magic and Major Magic talents alot. under this, the only spell he shouldnt have been able to cast is CLW (bard, not sorc/wiz), but I'd let that slide, since its cool. in point of fact, I think that rogues should also have access to the bard list.
The only problem with that theory is that Eando's a 3.5 character, of course.
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His stats appear in Pathfinder 18. I don't want to spoil the surprise... but he's multiclassed.
could you at least give me an estimate of his level? because, as mantioned, he seemed to make a huge advancment after escaping the orc bettlefield. I mean, passing from fleeing six orcs to single handly destroying a stone golem is and being personally favord by a goddes is, well... improbable.
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His stats appear in Pathfinder 18. I don't want to spoil the surprise... but he's multiclassed.could you at least give me an estimate of his level? because, as mantioned, he seemed to make a huge advancment after escaping the orc bettlefield. I mean, passing from fleeing six orcs to single handly destroying a stone golem is and being personally favord by a goddes is, well... improbable.
It's improbable for a PC perhaps. Not a character in a story.
In any case, he's mid-level.
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If it hadn't been for James' spoiler in this thread, I'd have voted bard. Now I imagine he's a rogue/wizard hybrid of some sort.
He can still be a bard.
I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
If it hadn't been for James' spoiler in this thread, I'd have voted bard. Now I imagine he's a rogue/wizard hybrid of some sort.He can still be a bard.
I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
Ahh, the incredible first-level person, 1 level in each of the classes.
He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
He took the Toughness feat?!? TWICE??!!?!?!
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I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
Looking at some of the iconics, and given Paizo's fascination with making unlikely choices for characters (a 2-weapon fighter, a gnome druid, a rogue with a low Int), I'm really interested in seeing what Eando is.
I'm guessing Rogue & Bard for sure. Fighter is a likely class also. I also think he might have 2 levels of Pathfinder Chronicler (at 2nd level, he'd be able to reroll a saving throw each day, which could explain some of his narrow escapes).
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I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
It's true. The thing about real people is that we're rarely optimized.
Just to be nice, though, I'll give you all a free spoiler:
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It's true. The thing about real people is that we're rarely optimized.
I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
I think I was built mostly using 3PP supplements.
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I think I was built mostly using 3PP supplements.It's true. The thing about real people is that we're rarely optimized.
I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
You're completely broken then, going that far outside of core! :)
His stats appear in Pathfinder 18. I don't want to spoil the surprise... but he's multiclassed.
He's not pulling a Nale, is he?
Actually, 6 humanoids are almost always a threat for D&D characters, because they've always got enough class levels to represent a challenge to the character - a stone golem, on the other hand, has a fixed CR, so it's much more likely to be something he could defeat...
I often saw fights where enemies had a big level difference.
And you can advance monsters.
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He can still be a bard.
I can say this: His class mix is certainly one that'll make the numbercrunchers freak out. He was built to match what he does in the story, is what I'm saying, not to be an example of how to build the best.
Oh yes, that makes sense. I should have specified that I meant that I would have guessed him to be a single-classed bard if you had asked me this question last week.
Perhaps that's just because I tend to play my bards much like Eando acts, so it seemed like a good fit for me.
Also, not being optimized is great! It adds verisimilitude to the character. After all, some characters need to take ranks in Profession, right? ;)
My guess is Bard/Pathfinder Chronicler. I mean, uh. Hello Mister Obvious!
My guess is Bard/Pathfinder Chronicler. I mean, uh. Hello Mister Obvious!
Hai!
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My personal guess is that he is probably something like Fighter 2/Bard 4/Rogue 2/Pathfinder Chronicler X. Where X is equal to somewhere between 2-4. Personally, I am glad he is being built to match the story instead of for optimization. When I get stats for a character in a story, I want an approximation that explains how they did the things they have done in the story, not the character with the most twinked out stats. I also like characters with flaws. That is what makes Eando so interesting. He readily admits that he is somewhat selfish and that he isn't above some hard core payback when he is betrayed. Personally, I think he exemplifies what Pathfinder is all about. It is a complex, grown up, world where people face real decisions and battle real evil. I don't need to imagine why Ogres mess with my head. You guys showed me with the Grauls. It's like that for the entire world. It's what makes Pathfinder great. I can't wait to see what you have in store for us with Eando.
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His stats appear in Pathfinder 18. I don't want to spoil the surprise... but he's multiclassed.could you at least give me an estimate of his level? because, as mantioned, he seemed to make a huge advancment after escaping the orc bettlefield. I mean, passing from fleeing six orcs to single handly destroying a stone golem is and being personally favord by a goddes is, well... improbable.It's improbable for a PC perhaps. Not a character in a story.
In any case, he's mid-level.
I've got to quote this
"Strictly following the d20 System rules, a 2nd level commoner could not attain the prerequisits for the prophet prestige class. But if you are chosen by the Lord, exceptions can be made."- Testament, pg 171
He's a gestalt swordsage//bard 10, with a +2 rapier of storytelling and a gray bag of tricks.
...oops. Didn't spoil any surprises, did I?
I gotta state, that the only thing that makes me sad about Eando, is having to stack up all the Pathfinder books next to my bed to read about him. He should get like a collected novel or something.
