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HISSSS! It burns us! Tricksy, frosty Freeholdses!

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I vaguely remember watching the original BSG episodes rerun on the SciFi or USA channel as a kid. Even then, it looked cheap and felt hokey. I consider the BSG reboot the far far superior show, even the weak parts of season 3 & 4 and the underwhelming cliched finale.

You are now dead to me.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I vaguely remember watching the original BSG episodes rerun on the SciFi or USA channel as a kid. Even then, it looked cheap and felt hokey. I consider the BSG reboot the far far superior show, even the weak parts of season 3 & 4 and the underwhelming cliched finale.

Cheap??

At the time (1978-79), it was the most expensive TV show to produce, ever! That show had movie-quality SFX, to the point that George Lucas sued the producers for using the same technology that ILM had invented for Star Wars.

The cost to produce the show was the main reason it got cancelled: The SFX were so expensive to produce that ABC needed it to be the #1 Neilsen-rated show for its time-slot for it to be profitable. (TV ad rates were based on the show's Neilsen ratings.)

CBS ended up moving the immensely-popular All In the Family to the same time-slot to compete, and that's the main reason BSG was cancelled after its second season. (At the time, VCRs existed, but were very expensive luxury items, and few households had one.)


Haladir wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I vaguely remember watching the original BSG episodes rerun on the SciFi or USA channel as a kid. Even then, it looked cheap and felt hokey. I consider the BSG reboot the far far superior show, even the weak parts of season 3 & 4 and the underwhelming cliched finale.

Cheap??

At the time (1978-79), it was the most expensive TV show to produce, ever! That show had movie-quality SFX, to the point that George Lucas sued the producers for using the same technology that ILM had invented for Star Wars.

The cost to produce the show was the main reason it got cancelled: The SFX were so expensive to produce that ABC needed it to be the #1 Neilsen-rated show for its time-slot for it to be profitable. (TV ad rates were based on the show's Neilsen ratings.)

indeed.

Comically expensive to make.

I learned about that at one of the cons I went to from some Battlestar Galactica complainers. I believe each episode was the modern equivalent of just under half a million or so.


I'm not saying the original BSG was cheap when it was made; I'm saying it looked cheap and felt hokey when I saw it a couple decades+ later in re-runs on some B- or C-tier cable channel. It's my opinion alone, but I stand by that.

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Part of the problem with original BSG (and I was in college when it came out, so I am also old) was that the individual SFX shots were expensive enough that they tended to reuse them. Frequently.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I'm not saying the original BSG was cheap when it was made; I'm saying it looked cheap and felt hokey when I saw it a couple decades+ later in re-runs on some B- or C-tier cable channel. It's my opinion alone, but I stand by that.

You are still dead to me! :P


John Woodford wrote:
Part of the problem with original BSG (and I was in college when it came out, so I am also old) was that the individual SFX shots were expensive enough that they tended to reuse them. Frequently.

oh yeah. Same strafing runs.


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I'm not saying the original BSG was cheap when it was made; I'm saying it looked cheap and felt hokey when I saw it a couple decades+ later in re-runs on some B- or C-tier cable channel. It's my opinion alone, but I stand by that.
You are still dead to me! :P

I remain animated solely by the necromantic power of lemon-lime Spite™.

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Freehold DM wrote:
John Woodford wrote:
Part of the problem with original BSG (and I was in college when it came out, so I am also old) was that the individual SFX shots were expensive enough that they tended to reuse them. Frequently.
oh yeah. Same strafing runs.

The running joke I remember is a dialog among the three-Cylon crew on their fighters:

C1: "I want to go to the left."

C2: "I want to go to the right."

C3: "Shut up. We will go straight ahead."

C1: "Oh, no. The Vipers are putting on the brakes again."

*all three Cylons turn and look over their shoulders as they overshoot the Vipers*

*a Viper blows up the Cylon fighter*


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I did have one of the Mattel Viper toys that actually shot the little red missile, before the suit/recall/redesign.

I found it in my grandfather's attic with a bunch of my old toys when we cleaned out his house after he died. That was in 1998.

That box ended up in my attic, where it sat until I needed to take everything out so we could have it re-insulated. That was in 2017.

I sold that Viper on eBay for $750. It was missing the missile... if it wasn't, it would have gone for over $2K!


Wow! That's awesome. I don't think I own anything even worth $750. Not even my car.


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My husband just sold his "Mr Spock Spaceman Helmet" on ebay for a hundred bucks and change. Probably the most random bit of crap they ever slapped a merchandising label on.
Somewhere in his mom's attic there is still an Evil Knievel action doll with the trick toy motorcycle.


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Out of curiosity, I just looked up the Viper toy that actually fired the missiles on eBay. There must now be a glut of them on the market: They're only going for between $75 and $200 now, depending on condition and whether or not the 20mm pilot figure is included.

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